Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Bardock4239 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats my point, never is it implied that the force can be resisted through brute strength, It is mere speculation.

And there should not be any argument whether the Clone Wars movie being CANON or not, it is a SW movie, therefore it has bearing here.

It is not a movie playing in the same Star Wars universe, it is a parallel one with similar happenings.

Again.

Batman TAS Movies are not the same as Batman 60s TV Series Movies are not the same as Batman 89/Batman Returns/Batman Forever/Batman and Robin are not the same as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.

Yes, they are all about a character called Batman (Bruce Wayne), but they are not compatible within itself. They are very different movies playing in very different universes about different characters with the same name.

Originally posted by Impediment
Yeesh.

I'm gonna have to get a second opinion here, guys. This is all a very valid argument and I need to be informed to make a good decision.

Any recommendations on who to ask? Ushgarak? Peach? Some other non-mod member?

Ush should be alright, really. Or maybe Queeq, they seem to take care of the canon issue. Though, in the end, it's really your call...

The movie forum doesn't need the same rules as the Star Wars forum, we already do have some different ones.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thinking quicly of people who could do Anakin...

The Shadows from Babylon 5....theyd kill Skywalker,
The Vorlons....theyd kill Skywalker.
The X-Men... They'd kill Skywalker.
Unicron from Transformers, He'd kill Anakin.
And so would Megatron.
The dude from Scanners'd Kill Anakin
Sylar from Heroes....HEd' KIll Anakin.
As would Peter...
Anakin couldnt kill the girl Cheerleader either.
Sauron would kill Anakin.
One of those Ollyphants from LOTR theyd crush Anakin.
The god creature in StarTrek 5, V'ger, he'd kill Anakin...
These are but a few...

McClane... 😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And there should not be any argument whether the Clone Wars movie being CANON or not, it is a SW movie, therefore it has bearing here.

Then Anakin needs a little girl to save his ass, so powerful is he.

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane... 😉

😂 Forgot him....!!

I disagree on the Olyphants, if Legolas can do it, Anakin can too,

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is not a movie playing in the same Star Wars universe, it is a parallel one with similar happenings.

Again.

Batman TAS Movies are not the same as Batman 60s TV Series Movies are not the same as Batman 89/Batman Returns/Batman Forever/Batman and Robin are not the same as Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.

Yes, they are all about a character called Batman (Bruce Wayne), but they are not compatible within itself. They are very different movies playing in very different universes about different characters with the same name.

Well put.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then Anakin needs a little girl to save his ass, so powerful is he.
Hey, its better than being beaten by a girl.

dooooooo 🙂

Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree on the Olyphants, if Legolas can do it, Anakin can too,

Even if Anakin is suddenly stomped on...?

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not written by Lucas, and it plays in the more powerful universe as often shown in the EU, very different to what happens in the other movies. It is really kinda like teh Batman Returns vs. Batman Begins arguments, totally different universes just called the same. Either way, it's not canon by the Star Wars Forum of KMC...

They are not compatible.

Uh oh

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/announcement.html

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Even if Anakin is suddenly stomped on...?

Then he'd probably die.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, its better than being beaten by a girl.

dooooooo 🙂

😂

Assaji Ventress.

OOooooh that completes the set lolz

Shit, buy one more and you get a toaster.

Originally posted by Impediment
Yeesh.

I'm gonna have to get a second opinion here, guys. This is all a very valid argument and I need to be informed to make a good decision.

Any recommendations on who to ask? Ushgarak? Peach? Some other non-mod member?

Bardock is definitely correct with his Batman comparison. Same name, different characters though. Adam West's Batman had a 'bat alphabet soup descrambler' because he happened to need one during a specific plot. Yet we can all agree that Batman is far different than the canon set forth with Bale's depiction.

Also of note, people often cite (or request to know) which specific character when making a thread for this reason, eg "(Routh) Superman Vs. ****", instead of just "Superman".

The Clone Wars nonsense started as a last ditch effort to find some power to help the SW side, it didn't come into play until later in the thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Uh oh

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/announcement.html

What's your point?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Uh oh

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/announcement.html

Uh oh.

Relevancy...?
Lucas is very behind his companies stuff......and...?

So what you're saying is that if it isn't written/directed by Lucas, it can't be canonical with episodes 1 thru 6?

Originally posted by Impediment
So what you're saying is that if it isn't written/directed by Lucas, it can't be canonical with episodes 1 thru 6?

That's how they do it in the Star Wars forum. Though they include the novelization of the Trilogies.

The thing is, I think it's really just a common sense thing. If one set of movies depicts powers, characters, scenes, happenings totally different than another than they can't be compatible even if the characters within it relate in some parts.

Think of it like this. Mace Windu can jump 3 km in the Clone Wars TV Series, in the movies, he hasn't shown any power even close to it. Should his powers in the cartoon be included in a discussion...even though they are obviously done by two, de facto, different characters, with similar names and backstory?

The current SW: The Clone Wars series is a spin-off of the movie, no?

The argument, I think, goes like this:

-Real life SW movie characters can do this.
-Animated SW movie characters can do this.
-We are discussing one or the other medium in this thread: real life or animated. Pick one. Not both.
-When one is picked, then we will continue the deabte without argument.

Am I right?

I would argue that it didnt matter who did it, as its a movie.
But it is awful and canon conflicting, and is still regarded as EU.

My EU filters are usually these...

Does it have the scroll intro...?
Does it have the John Williams score..?
Does it obey if not expand on existant canon..?

CW (the Movie) is such an obvious pixar type kiddy level diet-pepsi-star wars fest that means star wars is dead, if that is accepted as canon.

Its like trying to accept the Holiday special as a valid episode between 'A New Hope' and 'Empire'.