Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Rogue Jedi39 pages

Originally posted by Impediment
So, you're saying that the Jedis are being excessively pumped up for the circumstances of this fight?
Thats exactly what they are saying.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats exactly what they are saying.

I'm asking all of you, though.

What exact powers/abilities of the Jedi are being argued?

Yeah Id say it counted. cause those seperatist leaders were like wet toilet paper.

Originally posted by Robtard
Exactly.

Wouldn't it depends on which enemies he was facing?

Not really, he would wreck shop on most of them. Imagine Maul in the same situation.

Originally posted by Impediment
So, you're saying that the Jedis are being excessively pumped up for the circumstances of this fight?

I'm really trying to get more involved with these threads, guys, but work has been really kicking my ass lately. Motherf*ckers are buying a lot of beer these days, and I have to vend the shit out of it.

In regards to the "seen in the movies" rule in this forum, they indeed are. I can't speak for the other SW Vs forums.

Bardock explained it far better with the 'delusional' and 'adding more than their creators implied' points.

Don't worry about it much, we're a bunch of foolish adults arguing over hypothetical fights. Worry about your life first.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm asking all of you, though.

What exact powers/abilities of the Jedi are being argued?

They are insisting that spidey can resist the force with his brute strength. And that The Clone Wars MOVIE has no bearing here, even though it is a MOVIE.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not really, he would wreck shop on most of them. Imagine Maul in the same situation.

Nah, a room full of the X-Men would end Skywalker in seconds. Same with the JLA, Avengers. Then there are very, very many individuals that alone could take Skywalker....it's a silly thing to argue. Why are we?

I'm curious about the aspect of the Force Push. I noticed some argument about it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not really, he would wreck shop on most of them. Imagine Maul in the same situation.

Dude, you're not proving your point. Making a blanket statement of "DS Luke would destroy a room full of enemies", is fanboyism. It would depend heavily on which enemies where in that room. Can't you see that?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They are insisting that spidey can resist the force with his brute strength. And that The Clone Wars MOVIE has no bearing here, even though it is a MOVIE.
The Clone Wars Movie is not canon to the Trilogy movies. What happens in them is not in accordance with the rest of the Star Wars movies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, a room full of the X-Men would end Skywalker in seconds. Same with the JLA, Avengers. Then there are very, very many individuals that alone could take Skywalker....it's a silly thing to argue. Why are we?
Again, I said MOST, not ALL.

That all Jedi are as good as Anakin with a lightsabre.
(That all Jedi could have snipped the slugipede thingies off of Padme)

That they use the force to land crashing ships.

That Jedi Precog is infailiable.
(Despite the numerous times that it lets Jedi/Sith down)

And that despite Spiderman's ability to stop speeding trains, that the Jedi are more powerful and would win H2H

Are some things that have that have been argued.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm curious about the aspect of the Force Push. I noticed some argument about it.
Force push/pull/hold are all varying forms of telekinesis.

Yes, I am Captain Obvious.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm curious about the aspect of the Force Push. I noticed some argument about it.

Well, there's just some arguments about whether the force is an almighty tool (which it obviously isn't), for one, gravity weakens it. On the other hand it apparently couldn't be used against Jango, etc. Yet we are supposed to believe that it is a "beat-em-all" power, quite contrary to what we have seen on the screen.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They are insisting that spidey can resist the force with his brute strength. And that The Clone Wars MOVIE has no bearing here, even though it is a MOVIE.

Hmmm.....

Well, Web Head is a pretty strong mutha. I really have no hard evidence as to what, if you will, strength ratio there is to a Force Grab.

The Clone Wars movie, even if it is as terrible as I have heard it is, is still a movie. Why would there be any argument as to the relevancy of it being canon? Maybe I have no real opinion on the matter since I have yet to even see the movie.

Originally posted by Impediment
Hmmm.....

Well, Web Head is a pretty strong mutha. I really have no hard evidence as to what, if you will, strength ratio there is to a Force Grab.

The Clone Wars movie, even if it is as terrible as I have heard it is, is still a movie. Why would there be any argument as to the relevancy of it being canon? Maybe I have no real opinion on the matter since I have yet to even see the movie.

It's not written by Lucas, and it plays in the more powerful universe as often shown in the EU, very different to what happens in the other movies. It is really kinda like teh Batman Returns vs. Batman Begins arguments, totally different universes just called the same. Either way, it's not canon by the Star Wars Forum of KMC...

They are not compatible.

Originally posted by Impediment
Why would there be any argument as to the relevancy of it being canon? Maybe I have no real opinion on the matter since I have yet to even see the movie.

Because it directly contradicts the canon set forth from the live-action movies. E.G. Anakin having a padawan, the more SW astute people can give you more examples.

Originally posted by Impediment
Hmmm.....

Well, Web Head is a pretty strong mutha. I really have no hard evidence as to what, if you will, strength ratio there is to a Force Grab.

The Clone Wars movie, even if it is as terrible as I have heard it is, is still a movie. Why would there be any argument as to the relevancy of it being canon? Maybe I have no real opinion on the matter since I have yet to even see the movie.

Thats my point, never is it implied that the force can be resisted through brute strength, It is mere speculation.

And there should not be any argument whether the Clone Wars movie being CANON or not, it is a SW movie, therefore it has bearing here.

Thinking quicly of people who could do Anakin...

The Shadows from Babylon 5....theyd kill Skywalker,
The Vorlons....theyd kill Skywalker.
The X-Men... They'd kill Skywalker.
Unicron from Transformers, He'd kill Anakin.
And so would Megatron.
The dude from Scanners'd Kill Anakin
Sylar from Heroes....HEd' KIll Anakin.
As would Peter...
Anakin couldnt kill the girl Cheerleader either.
Sauron would kill Anakin.
One of those Ollyphants from LOTR theyd crush Anakin.
The god creature in StarTrek 5, V'ger, he'd kill Anakin...
These are but a few...

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not written by Lucas, and it plays in the more powerful universe as often shown in the EU, very different to what happens in the other movies. It is really kinda like teh Batman Returns vs. Batman Begins arguments, totally different universes just called the same. Either way, it's not canon by the Star Wars Forum of KMC...

They are not compatible.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because it directly contradicts the canon set forth from the live-action movies. E.G. Anakin having a padawan, the more SW astute people can give you more examples.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats my point, never is it implied that the force can be resisted through brute strength, It is mere speculation.

And there should not be any argument whether the Clone Wars movie being CANON or not, it is a SW movie, therefore it has bearing here.

Yeesh.

I'm gonna have to get a second opinion here, guys. This is all a very valid argument and I need to be informed to make a good decision.

Any recommendations on who to ask? Ushgarak? Peach? Some other non-mod member?