Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen Trailer & Discussion *Possible Spoiler Orgy*

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My no-spoiler review of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen". Enjoy!

I love the Transformers. Optimus Prime, Megatron, Ironhide, Cliffjumper, Unicron, Bumbelee, Devastator, Ratchet, Scorpinok, Soundwave, all of 'em. So as you can tell, I was anticipating "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen". I wanted to see it so much that it may have been more awaited than the first for me. Now with that being said, after all of the screaming and cheering, I settled down and had an actual analysis of the movie in general. There's a lot of things this movie can be called. Action-packed, insane, immature, interesting, inconsistent, and so on. But the word that came to my mind first was 'fun'.

So the movie's plot is simple when looked at from afar: The Autobots are destroying what's left of the Decepticons, Sam goes to college, and the nefarious Megatron returns from the dead. But now there's something new: Unknown to us first time around, Megatron is not the true master of the Decepticons. Instead he is the apprentice of the very first bad bot, named the Fallen. Turns out the Fallen has already been to our planet, and is ready to come back. So as evil descends Earth, Sam Witwicky must fulfill the prophecy and lead Optimus Prime to his ultimate destiny.

Since I'm starting with the good, I decided to just put it out there: "Revenge Of The Fallen" is far superior to the first film. First off, the action scenes aren't anywhere near as random and hard to follow. And now instead of just lasers and throwing, we see the Transformers soak their hands in each other's oil. This movie easily has the best battle sequences we'll see all year. Second, the plot is very strong, believe it or not. The whole movie goes at a strong, but still fast, pace. The Transformers are no longer secondary characters either, but have just as many scenes as Sam. Luckily, these moments are great. The Megatron/Starscream dynamic is fleshed out immensely, we really get a sense of how bad the villains are, and, of course, the army backs away for the real heroes to shine.

The one character that breaks through the most is none other than kick-ass-and-take-names Autobot leader Optimus Prime. One of my big complaints about the first movie was how Optimus felt watered down. But now with Bay officially a Transformers geek, he nails the character perfectly. For all of the bashing the critics have done, Optimus will still be remembered as one of the movie hero greats. Every scene he is in is nothing short of perfect, and we really get feeling for his heroic behavior. This is the classic Prime who was willing to face an army of Decepticons in order to save people. And I'll also just say, without spoiling anything, that his battle with his arch foes in the forest is exactly what you wanted him to do in the first film. In short, Optimus Prime is an animal, the robotic Rambo, and, best of all, the only thing saving our sorry asses from the baddies. Some complain about the final battle, but I found it to be amazing. It was to show exactly how unbelievably powerful Optimus got. We saw what the Fallen could do, so it's only fitting to show the hero's win so grandly after losing for most of the movie.

Megatron was also ten times better than before, and much like the Megs we used to know and love. Ruthless, violent, and not taking shit from anyone(read on before you say anything), this is all I wanted to see from him.

Starscream is back as well, more cowardly than ever. However, he makes small backhanded compliments that hint that in the next movie, he'll be ready to do what he can to be on top.

Some other robots who stick out are Skid and Mudflap, two made-for-the-movie Transformers(names not pending) who are mixes between rednecks and homeboys. Either way, they are a lot of fun to watch in their antics. The best part is how effective they are as well. Ironhide, Ratchet, and crew are back with good guys, though the screen time they have lacks. Bumblebee is alright, but I never found him that great compared to the others. Still, he was cool. Soundwave makes a short(but significant) appearance, and while he doesn't look much like the classic Soundwave(nor sounds like him), he has a very similar vibe. Jetfire was always a Transformer I found gleaming with potential, but he seemed nothing more than gimmicky. In "Revenge of the Fallen", however, the character felt solid and alive with personality. The changes done to his character were all for the best, in my own humble opinion.

The score is excellent, fitting perfectly with the picture in general. All of the other music worked well, even Linkin Park(unlike last time).

Now time for the bad. My biggest issue with the movie is the same as last time: The cheap humor. There are moments of the movie where Bay tries to be funny, but it becomes more humiliating than laugh inducing. Just like the first one, there's crude humor jokes(the Devastator one being quite possibly one of my least favorite scenes in cinema history). Whenever these scenes appear, the movie pauses long enough for you to face palm yourself. Skids and Mudflap were examples of the only humor that worked.

A big issue with the jokes is that they don't decide whether to be kiddish of mature. For example, there's a cute scene where Wheelie is trying to get an Allspark fragment. It's funny and entertaining, up until he starts swearing. The moment he did that, I was taken out of the movie for a second. Why was that necessary? What was the point of being crude? It seems that Wheelie has many moments like that in the movie, including humping Mikaela(played by Megan Fox)'s leg. It was those parts that overall hurt the movie.

Speaking of bad comedy, I hated Leo Spitz. Yes, that is indeed the character's name. For those who haven't seen the movie, Leo is Sam's college roommate and sidekick, only there for even more cheap laughs. He's goofy, horny, and an eccentric conspiracist. Unfortunately, he is far more irritating that he is funny. In fact, I was angry during the film due to his presence. The only satisfaction I felt was whenever Skids and Mudflap ragged on him. Seymour Simmons(played by John Tuturro) was all they needed for the comedic role, but Bay loves to go past all points of reason as always.

This only applies to one scene, but I went mad during a moment with Mikaela and Sam, because the damn camera wouldn't stopp twirling! Nothing long lasting but I could have done without the migraine.

While I didn't mind it, the Pretender subplot was completely expendable, only there to create an awkward moment between Sam and Mikaela. To be fair, the action sequence afterwords is entertaining. The Pretender is a Decepticon who transforms into a gorgeous woman in hopes of capturing Sam. This leads to the obvious "Mikaela thinks Sam's cheating on her" moment, only to be resolved in seconds.

And finally, there are many inconsistencies with the Decepticons here. As interesting as the Fallen is, having someone outrank Megatron defeats the purpose of the character. It was a minor annoyance, but it was still annoying. As well, Devastator was far too random and easily defeated, in my opinion. I expected a far more incredible battle. I mean, he's DEVASTATOR. His whole existence is to be tougher than everyone else. So why wasn't he? And that goes for any time the Decepticons had issues with the army.

So by the end of the movie, I liked it a lot. I found the whole story to be action packed, well made, and just as lovable as ever. Despite the movie's faults(which can be ignored, although it would be best if there was a way to delete them from the flick), I deem this the most fun romp of the year. However, 'best' would not be the right word.

I give this movie a solid A. To sum it all up, it's a positively amazing action movie, and I can't wait to own it on DVD. Also makes it easier to fast forward through the jokes.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I heard Optimus and Starscream die and Ultramagnus shows up at the end.

Then whoever told you that didn't see the movie.

I thought the Fox acted better this time around.

i've just come back from seeing the film, and i thought it was epic.

fair enough, some things were disappointing, i.e. Mudflap and Skids, but overall the film made for some fine viewing...

the fallen was a disappointment, too little screen time for a character that is the basis of the film.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Then whoever told you that didn't see the movie.

The Ultra Magnus thing came from a leaked early script.

It had most of the film right, but big differences like that.

The final battle was originally in Vegas.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
i've just come back from seeing the film, and i thought it was epic.

Same here.

fair enough, some things were disappointing, i.e. Mudflap and Skids, but overall the film made for some fine viewing...

Really? I liked the Twins.

the fallen was a disappointment, too little screen time for a character that is the basis of the film.

I thought the Fallen worked better with less screen time. It's weird, though, since Megatron still felt like the biggest threat here regardless.

Saw it a few hours ago, was cheesy fun, as I expected. Wouldn't call it great by any means, but fun enough.

Things I didn't like:

The hip-hop twins
The Latino
Too many characters, which lowered overall screen-time for others
Megatron not being the main villain, should have just left him out entirely if they were going with The Fallen
The

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temp-death scene where Sam goes to robo-heaven

Yeah that was meant to be a merge with the Matrix.....

Somthing that only the Primes could do originally.

Now Mutt Jones can do it too, it seems...

I saw it earlier tonight and thought it was epic. I was disappointed by a few things in the movie but overall it was good and the scene where Optimus

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gets killed, like that whole fight scene
was awesome, in fact all the fight scenes in the movie were significantly better than before imo. I thought the acting was better to and I liked the characters more (and it helped not having aussie girl in it). I liked most of the new characters, thought the twins were pretty damn funny, though I could've done without them. I felt like too many new characters got jipped on screen time. Arcee had all of five minutes in the movie as did Sideswipe Ironhide and the rest of the autobots, even in the final fight we only saw bits of them, I don't think most of them said more than one line. I don't know why the Constructicons were even added into the film
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I was expecting some awesome fight with Devastator but what happens? He gets taken out by one shot from a jet. Other than that little thing with the twins he didn't even get a fight scene. I think they overpowered Prime as well, much like they did with Megatron in the first film, except this time Prime was wrecking mother****ers. That whole fight between him and Starscream and Megatron and the new blackout he was tearing them up with little contest and Megatron is supposed to be stronger now. 😬 and the fallen got taken out like a *****.
All-in-all it was still an excellent movie imo. Now we just need to see Soundwave kick ass in the next movie.

I was expecting some awesome fight with Devastator but what happens? He gets taken out by one shot from a jet.

Wasn't a jet, it was a rail gun.


and Starscream attaching himself to a satillite??? Ummm no..........sounds like your friends Scythe don't know what he looks like

Also where was Soundwave? i did'nt spot him

Soundwave was the satellite, star scream was the F-22.

Originally posted by ctsketch
Wasn't a jet, it was a rail gun.

Congratulations.

Originally posted by Prince Nauj
But scorpinok popping out of nowhere! WTF?!

well he did'nt exactly get killed off in the first movie.

Originally posted by ctsketch
Soundwave was the satellite, star scream was the F-22.

I know who Starscream was idiot.....

it was soundwave i was talking about.

i dont really understand where the real "threat" of the movie was persay.

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granted when optimus merged with jetfire and destroyed that big machine it seemed before that with the fallen's powers earth was truly ****ed. however before that the decepticons were getting completely bitched by the US forces. one Abrams tank was a match for a decepticon. a battalation of 'em were wrecking the entire decepticon army. the rail gun destroyed devastator in one hit. Hell the army killed more of them then the Autobots did. like twice as many...

so that being said if that

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sun destroying machine
didnt exist how were the deceptions even a threat? why were the autobots even needed? with the earth's combined might we could have destroyed the decepticon army with ease even if it was a thousand times larger.

transformers2=absolute shit.
i was so disappointed watching this yesterday in theatres. the storyline sucked, the horrible attempts at comedy were just painful, watching robots using "martial arts" was weird at best and the dialogues were clunky, odd to downright bad.
and througout the 3 hours of this movie we kept seeing one thing:
americans doing what they love, wanking their military powers

the autobots need human's help to take down decepticans?
tank fire is dropping decepticans?
sam's parents get more screen time?
two robots who talk like gangsters?
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: devastator gets oneshotted by a gunship?
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: megatron can't fighting prime anymore but he could in the last movie?

bad movie. horrible.

~Sado
P.S. sam's roommate was a penis.
P.S.S. the only good thing in this movie was watching megan's ass bounce around when she ran. oh and when

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prime died.

For a film i've been waiting for for 2 years, it was kinda disappointing and didn't cover things that a dead horse could cover in a plot.

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The Fallen was a load of fail, he had too little time on screen and when his time did come up, he was completely PWND by Optimus.
Not to mention that he didn't last very long at all.

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Jetfire "combining" - if you can call it that - with Optimus was epic, that is a direct tie-in with Transformers Cybertron, where i think Jetfire is an actual member of the Autobots and is the autobot that combines with Optimus.

The whole bit about

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"If God made us in his image, who made them?"
was good, but it lead nowhere, i was expecting a Primus plot to fall out of that, but obviously not.

Sam's

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temp-death was fail...
i mean, he
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goes to Cybertronian heaven for **** sake...he's not a Cybertronian, or any type of robot for that matter...seriously, what the ****!?

I was disappointed that

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the Matrix of Leadership wasn't used on one of the Autobots
they could've directly linked it to the original movie, where
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Optimus dies and gives the Matrix to Hotrod, or Ultra Magnus, I can't remember

There's more i could criticize, but i did like the film, and if i'm not careful i'll make myself hate it...lol

I know who Starscream was idiot.....

it was soundwave i was talking about.

Who is the idiot? you are the one who said star scream attached himself to a satellite, and then asked where soundwave was..... I simply corrected you.

This was YOUR quote


and Starscream attaching himself to a satillite??? Ummm no..........sounds like your friends Scythe don't know what he looks like

Also where was Soundwave? i did'nt spot him

Idiot...

Originally posted by ctsketch
Who is the idiot? you are the one who said star scream attached himself to a satellite, and then asked where soundwave was..... I simply corrected you.

I never said "Starscream attaches himself to a satellite" i was referring to what Scythe said about his friends who saw this movie in Japan just correcting him on that

whos the idiot now ctsketch

looks like misread it, its Soundwave they were talking about in the other thread so we can both shut up and move on.

Originally posted by Sado22
P.S.S. the only good thing in this movie was watching megan's ass bounce around when she ran. oh and when
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prime died.

Wow....you really hate the goody little too shoes type characters.

.

Damn pressed quote instead of edit...