Originally posted by Publius II
No, I never said [insert damning reference here] and [insert IM here] isn't mine, and you faked [insert irrefutable evidence here]. So you fail, and I call you a sock, and you're a troll, and I win because my cheap entertainment is too... cheap... for you to give up.Troll.
That logic is flawless. I cannot argue any more. You have bested me sir.
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Originally posted by Publius II
No, I never said [insert damning reference here] and [insert IM here] isn't mine, and you faked [insert irrefutable evidence here]. So you fail, and I call you a sock, and you're a troll, and I win because my cheap entertainment is too... cheap... for you to give up.Troll.
Awww that's so cute. Still obsessing over me. Way to go Faunus!
I suppose Vader could defeat Ventress, with the evidence that Lightsnake has provided. I still continue to believe that Vader is not as quick nor as maneuverable as he was before his injuries. This is visible in the EU and in the films. Also, I never said that Vader was a mediocre duelist nor a terrible one. Don't get me wrong. I know he has skill. It's undeniable after viewing the EU material. I never said that.
I'd like to clear up a few things before I move on:
Should I explain what I meant by it again? Or are you going to be the dishonest child we all know you to be?
If you're going to be this utterly anal, then yes I was wrong. He had a knowledge of Shien. It was not, however, his main form, or anything close to it.
Doesn't take that much effort to troll, so cut the crap. If you're going to whine and moan like this, you're not worth my time, especially when you've been nothing but a sarcastic little brat your entire time here
This is a lie as well. I did not troll in this thread. My initial response was relevant to the primary topic of this thread. That's not trolling. Getting enraged during a debate doesn't automatically turn your opponent into a troll. As I said previously, unless I'm claravoient, I didn't troll you.
What part of 'You were wrong over him using Shien as his main stance' doesn't register either? You implied it was his main form and he couldn't use it effectively as Vader
I never implied it was his main form. I had agreed with you when I stated Djem So was his primary stance AFTER he'd used Shien in his younger days. Go look at my post.
Yes, he had. I agree. How does this prove he was not a Shien practitioner? If he used it as a ruse, he has knowledge of it. He had become a Djem So form user. I don't disagree. What do think he utilized before this?
In this post, I acknowledge that he uses it as a ruse and I also state he becomes a Djem So practitioner. Pay closer attention next time.
When it comes to my statements of him being less skilled now than he was, I have lost. You've reminded me that he is not. I simply believe he uses precision and power more now because of the loss of his limbs and his damage. I still believe he is not as quick nor is he as flexible.
Next time we debate, I'd encourage you not to become so angry. I did nothing wrong and even compromised to ignore you insulting me during the beginning of this debate. I have nothing against and you I don't know you well enough to place hate against you. If I seemed to come across as sarcastic or demeaning, I apologize. I can get passionate when I debate.
Ta. For now.
hey everyone, this is the first time I've posted in here for who knows how long. I'm not coming back, I was just bored. Anyways, I read the first page and a half of this thread, not the whole thing, so I don't know if this has been stated yet, but in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, Dooku states that Grevious is more powerful than Asajj Ventress. It's in the last 2 pages or so.
Originally posted by Publius II
Can you provide the actual quote?
Originally posted by Advent
As well, from Dark Rendezvous - "Possibly Asajj Ventress, his protegee, would be there, clamoring to be made his apprentice. He had a meeting scheduled with the formidable General Grievous, [b]who was even more powerful than Ventress, but a great deal less interesting as a dinner-table conversationalist."[/B]
i know im a little late to the game here (ok fine really late)
but i just had to register after reading this.
i personally think that ventress would be blown away by vader.
and just because shes faster doesnt mean vaders helpless, far from it.
vader's not an idiot. all he would have to do to defeat her is force grip her and throw his lightsaber through her heart.
doesnt even need to fight if he did it fast enough which he could easily do
and vader was definitely a better duelist than anakin.
he retained all of his knowledge of how to fight with a lightsaber and as vader he was far more experienced after having fought and defeated a countless number of jedi. sure he's not as fast as he used to be but he doesnt always need speed to defeat his enemies. when he gets tired he relentlessly throws objects at his foes with the force.
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
which series? I think you are referring to the new CW cartoons and if you aren't maybe you and others can shed some light on this question.how cannon is the new CW series? I'd say it beats out the novels and comics and the other CWC series because didn't Lucas have more influence in the new CW series?
Originally posted by Eminence
It's either equal to or right under the movies.
The new "Clone Wars" series should be considered non-canon. There's too much stuff that doesn't fit with what's established.
Best to think of it as an 'Elseworlds.'