Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Anyways. Im still waiting for the proof that Baymovie Prime has power exceeding that of a same sized human.
I can't really remember any solid strength feats, the police-car decep did send a BMW 740il flipping a few times, that would probably take a bit more strength than a 20 foot human weighing many tons, not sure though.
Originally posted by Robtard
I can't really remember any solid strength feats, the police-car decep did send a BMW 740il flipping a few times, that would probably take a bit more strength than a 20 foot human weighing many tons, not sure though.
Fair play, but Prime or the Autobots hadnt shown us though.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
What we know about gorillas? You're picking and choosing logic, and that's a no no in a debate. Using real world physics, Kong would collapse upon himself from his own size. You can't use real world logic for a debate about two science fiction creations.
And a 28 foot tall transforming robot from Cybertron doesn't exist either, a little leeway is needed.
A little leeway is needed, both ways. Who are we to pick and choose which line of logic is more okay to use in a debate? Using a linear chart to explain his strength by height is incredibly suspect to use in a debate about two beings that for all intents and purposes, can't exist. Just because something is illogical, doesn't mean that we can apply any line of logic to it that we want because it suits our argument.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Fixed.Btw, I lol'd at how actually fooled yourself into believing you won that argument. 🙄
Siwwy Wabbit.
😂 Im not saying I won anything, but I certainly havent had it shown that BayPrimes strength exceeds that of a fully f***ed off King Kong.
Whereas his feats like lobbing those T-Rexs about, and propelling his own most-likely-heavier-than-Prime's weight over vast distances like that are well seen in the kong movie.
Yes how appropriate. You sound like Elmer, but you see like Magoo.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
What we know about gorillas? You're picking and choosing logic, and that's a no no in a debate. Using real world physics, Kong would collapse upon himself from his own size. You can't use real world logic for a debate about two science fiction creations.
Well in that case can I state empirically with no need for evidence that Kong beats all the TFs blindfolded then...?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
[B]😂 Im not saying I won anything, but I certainly havent had it shown that BayPrimes strength exceeds that of a fully f***ed off King Kong.
And Kong's never done anything that tops Optimus or Megatron either.
Whereas his feats like lobbing those T-Rexs about, and propelling his own most-likely-heavier-than-Prime's weight over vast distances like that are well seen in the kong movie.
Most likely? "Most likely", doesn't cut it in a debate. There is no way that you quantify how heavy the autobots are, because you have no idea what material they're made of and how dense it is, etc. I say Optimus weighs one million pounds, you can't prove otherwise.
So with that being the case, using that point is nonsensical.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well in that case can I state empirically with no need for evidence that Kong beats all the TFs blindfolded then...?
I state that Kong was killed by 30 mm bullets, which are as strong as hunting rifles, which isn't very, thus Optimus who is using super heated energy kills Kong in one hit.
I have concrete evidence from the movies themselves to back up my claim. What about you? Feel free to prove that Kong has thick enough skin to survive super heated energy when he was killed by some of the weakest ammunition in our modern military, whereas autobots can only be killed by the most advanced weaponry in our military.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I state that Kong was killed by 30 mm bullets, which are as strong as hunting rifles, which isn't very, thus Optimus who is using super heated energy kills Kong in one hit.I have concrete evidence from the movies themselves to back up my claim. What about you? Feel free to prove that Kong has thick enough skin to survive super heated energy when he was killed by some of the weakest ammunition in our modern military, whereas autobots can only be killed by the most advanced weaponry in our military.
So Jazz didnt get ripped in half...?
Thats evidence that Transformer's joints like the toys are succeptible to being broken with force, force that Kong is certain to be able to exert himself.
Prove that Bay Prime's strength exceeds 15 times that of a same sized human.
'Cause thats what Kong is bringing to the fight.
I never said that it wouldnt be trouble for Kong getting hit with that gun, but its not rapid firing and if Prime misses, that gun arm may be getting ripped off the second Kong close range.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So Jazz didnt get ripped in half...?
Thats evidence that Transformer's joints like the toys are succeptible to being broken with force, force that Kong is certain to be able to exert himself.
No it's not. I say that megatron is stronger than Kong is. Thus, just because he can do something to the autobots doesn't mean that Kong can, seeing as how Kong is weaker.
Prove that Bay Prime's strength exceeds 15 times that of a same sized human.
I don't have to. Prove that your linear growth chart holds any canon place in a fictional universe, considering that using that same logic, Kong would be crushed by his own weight. You're picking and choosing real world physics to suit your argument.
I never said that it wouldnt be trouble for Kong getting hit with that gun, but its not rapid firing and if Prime misses, that gun arm may be getting ripped off the second Kong close range.
First off, you'd have to prove that Kong is stronger than Optimus and Megatron. Then, you'd have to prove that Kong is strong enough to overcome Optimus' durability, which at it's height was able to protect him from being hit by a multiple thousand pound being moving at hundreds of miles an hour, then having that same being plow him through a solid steel and stone building. Optimus got up immediately afterward. And you need to do this, using feats from the movies, considering that is the only thing that is canon to this forum, to support your point. Using random lines of logic from freakin' forbes, while at the same time abandoning logic from your own sources because it doesn't fit your argument, won't fly.
And then after that, you'd have to make an argument for how Kong plans on not being hit even ONCE by an energy sword that will chop off anything it brushes against, AND avoid the gunfire, AND outsmart a machine that has a human-level intelligence AND has been trained for it's entire existence in the ways of combat.