Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

Started by Publius II36 pages

I don't know why someone would keep a pet chimp to begin with, but that sucks.

Originally posted by Publius II
I don't know why someone would keep a pet chimp to begin with, but that sucks.

Because they're 150 pounds of mass destruction? I watched a show on chimps, when they attack, they go for the face, then the hands and finish you off by ripping and biting at your genitals.

Michael Jackson had to get ride of Bubbles, he claimed it tried to throw him down the stairs on multiple occasions, iirc.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because they're 150 pounds of mass destruction? I watched a show on chimps, when they attack, they go for the face, then the hands and finish you off by ripping and biting at your genitals.

Michael Jackson had to get ride of Bubbles, he claimed it tried to throw him down the stairs on multiple occasions, iirc.

Of course, there are women who'[ll go straight for the balls, too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/4253849.stm

She choked and spat it back into her hand before the friend grabbed it and gave it back to Mr Jones.

Her friend is very nice.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Why are you so obsessed with small penises ?

Its clearly a metaphor thing.

You know....like "Why do people with small penis syndrome keep attacking all the time...? 'Cause they are angry at the lack of a decent tool to bury in the missus..."

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Her friend is very nice.

Certainly was, risking getting destroyed by something that does all that on the attack..
Jesus.

Well I was almost convinced of the Prime win, but now...

Originally posted by Robtard
Because they're 150 pounds of mass destruction? I watched a show on chimps, when they attack, they go for the face, then the hands and finish you off by ripping and biting at your genitals.

Michael Jackson had to get ride of Bubbles, he claimed it tried to throw him down the stairs on multiple occasions, iirc.

Maybe thats what happened to Jackson's face. 😮‍💨

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA

It was probably self defense.

Against Michael "Jesus juice makes happy hands" Jackson.

The habit of attacking the genitals might account for his voice, at least.

The hands: As corroborated by the white glove.
(Jackson probably thought it easier to "cryptically"wear one, rather than explain that a Monkey attacked his face, hand and two best freinds while he was wanking at said accussed Monkey. 😛 )

Clyde wouldn't stand for that shit.

King "Skull crusher" Kong for the H2H win. Oh yeahhhhh baby.

No.

Um. Yes.

Your argument that Kong lacks the neccesary kong-strength to crush skulls is disproved.

Also Kong's flesh and bone soft cant beat hard argument is disproved also.

Look up space shuttle Columbia and foam, tile, wing and blastoff.

I was wrong when I said he didn't snap it. "Crushing" it, unless you're using the term, very, very loosely, would be completely different. He snaps the roof of its jaw to the side, he doesn't cave the entire skull in entirely or something.

And the insulating foam hit something moving at 13,000 miles per hour, and even then all it did was loosen a protective panel at the edge [see here; it didn't go Superman Returns on the shuttle and rip the wing off. I've already stated that Kong could easily break the aesthetic elements of Prime's exterior, but there's no way he's doing anything significant to the main body. I can see him maybe breaking Prime's "neck" if he managed to get in close enough, but considering it took him fifteen seconds to break the jaw of something with functionally useless arms, no swords or guns, and intelligence not remotely comparable to that of Prime, I really don't see him getting there.

It wasnt at that speed yet. It was still in the atmospshere (not far after launch)

Well anyway a gunshot doesnt destroy the whole body.
It only needs to hit vital areas.

Kong might damage prime very seriously... (His head armour is damageable, judging by the new movie) Might rip an arm or head off, might rip his optic sensors out, could do all kinds of stuff.

Kong took so long as he had to fight multiple opponents, though, didn't he...?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It wasnt at that speed yet. It was still in the atmospshere (not far after launch)
Fair enough.

See the below. Kong can't replicate the forces that Megatron and his cannon could, and Prime simply walked away from those.

Well anyway a gunshot doesnt destroy the whole body.
It only needs to hit vital areas.
Which would apply more to Prime shooting Kong than Kong hitting Prime.

Kong might damage prime very seriously... (His head armour is damageable, judging by the new movie)
Unless I'm mistaken, the "punch" - was that what it was? - only broke off his mask and chipped some other stuff. We should probably keep from using stuff from the new movie until we actually know what's happening, though.

And assuming Prime let Kong hit him like that, the gorilla would probably break his hand. Again, I point you to the linked YouTube video; it shows what Prime was put through, physically, by the end of the fight (which he literally just upped and walked away from). A blast from Megatron's gun that sent him somersaulting several hundred feet through the air didn't even break the armor on his chest. As strong as Kong is, the chances of him even coming close to matching the kinetic force necessary to do that are nonexistent.

Might rip an arm or head off, might rip his optic sensors out, could do all kinds of stuff.
Optic sensors are a possibility if can actually get his hands into Prime's face, but he won't be getting that close.

Kong took so long as he had to fight multiple opponents, though, didn't he...?
The last Rex was alone.

Assumption. Megatron May not have been as strong as Kong.

It applies to damage and its effect.

I agree that Kong is disadvantaged against Prime at range, Im not debating that.

Whats happening is, according to the leaked script,

Spoiler:
is that Prime is getting his ass kicked by Soundwave and he is defeated. After that point, the matrix is ripped from out of him by Megatron.
Megatron possesses the Matrix.

Depnds if Kong has managed to ambush Prime or not, I guess.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Assumption. Megatron May not have been as strong as Kong.
I didn't say that Megatron was as strong as Kong, I said his gun generated more kinetic force than Kong could. One blast sends Prime flying several hundred feet through the air, while the best one of Kong's punches can do is to knock over a V-Rex, and the punch doesn't even do noticeable structural damage to it. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that there is a vast disparity in force between a hit that sends a presumably several-ton being somersaulting several hundred feet backwards and a hit that fails to even break bone.

Whats happening is, according to the leaked script,
Spoiler:
is that Prime is getting his ass kicked by Soundwave and he is defeated. After that point, the matrix is ripped from out of him by Megatron.
Megatron possesses the Matrix.
I still haven't seen the scene; neither has anyone else. It can't be used.

Depnds if Kong has managed to ambush Prime or not, I guess.
You're stacking odds if you're even giving Kong the chance to start the fight with Prime unaware of his location.

And there's still that sword.

Good. Then if Megatron can rip Jazz in half, then it stands to reason that Kong might be able to damage Prime, as he outstrongs Megatron, and Megatron beats Prime.

I really dont know why so much faith is put in Bay Prime.
He fights twice, wins one, loses one, and [spoilers]apparently is soon to lose AGAIN to Soundwave and/or Megatron [/spoilers]

Yes he has his sword.
(That sword which like the gun takes time to be transformed. Assembled/started...by which time kong may have already punched his head off.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-6wG_wZ8A

If Prime had his G1 armaments, he blow Kong apart, probably.
But he has his shitty Bay weapons instead.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Good. Then if Megatron can rip Jazz in half, then it stands to reason that Kong might be able to damage Prime, as he outstrongs Megatron, and Megatron beats Prime.
For one, I never said that Kong is stronger than Megatron, either.

Second, Megatron + Jazz =/= Kong + Optimus Prime. Jazz is tiny, especially compared to one of the largest Transformers in the movie. Prime is bigger than Kong is (taller), and has ways of keeping Kong from every getting his hands around him.

Third, all of Kong's great feats of strength involve throwing things; snapping the roof of a Rex's mouth (bone) doesn't cut it here, not when he's up against giant ancient alien robots. I've already demonstrated that a punch from Kong to Prime's body would do minimal damage at best, and would probably result in Kong breaking his own bones.

I really dont know why so much faith is put in Bay Prime.
He fights twice, wins one, loses one, and [spoilers]apparently is soon to lose AGAIN to Soundwave and/or Megatron [/spoilers]
Because with PIS removed, he should kick an unholy amount of ass, especially against a giant gorilla with no guns.

And stop posting spoilers, please; the tags don't cover them when I quote you.

Yes he has his sword.
(That sword which like the gun takes time to be transformed. Assembled/started...by which time kong may have already punched his head off.)
Prime whips the gun off of his back in under two seconds, and the sword takes even less time to transform (I think). He would shoot Kong's head off before it could get anywhere near him, and if he didn't, he'd already have the sword waiting to slash him up.

If Prime had his G1 armaments, he blow Kong apart, probably.
But he has his shitty Bay weapons instead.
Which are still enough.

Edit: Prime isn't a hundred-pound feline. Leopard =/= Prime.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Good. Then if Megatron can rip Jazz in half, then it stands to reason that Kong might be able to damage Prime, as he outstrongs Megatron, and Megatron beats Prime.

I really dont know why so much faith is put in Bay Prime.
He fights twice, wins one, loses one, and [spoilers]apparently is soon to lose AGAIN to Soundwave and/or Megatron [/spoilers]

Yes he has his sword.
(That sword which like the gun takes time to be transformed. Assembled/started...by which time kong may have already punched his head off.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-6wG_wZ8A

If Prime had his G1 armaments, he blow Kong apart, probably.
But he has his shitty Bay weapons instead.

Do excuse me, I haven't been following the discussion...

Just want to know, has there been evidence posted that Kong is stronger than Megatron?

(just yes/no, I will go back and find it)

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

Yes he has his sword.
(That sword which like the gun takes time to be transformed. Assembled/started...by which time kong may have already punched his head off.)

Not really... The sword comes out almost as quickly as Wolverine can pop his claws out.

Watch - 1:23
YouTube video