Optimus Prime vs. King Kong

Started by Publius II36 pages

Originally posted by Placidity
Do excuse me, I haven't been following the discussion...

Just want to know, has there been evidence posted that Kong is stronger than Megatron?

(just yes/no, I will go back and find it)

No.

Just that Prime never demonstrated any power stronger than a same sized human.

A silverback's strength is estimated to be 15 times human strength.

Therefore on paper Kong looks favorite for the strength.

People are never 100% sure about Quantum physics, but we live in a world surrounded by technology that the theory has produced.

So Im going with this and the destruction that we see Kong perform for now, which is enough.

Originally posted by Publius II
For one, I never said that Kong is stronger than Megatron, either.

Second, Megatron + Jazz =/= Kong + Optimus Prime. Jazz is tiny, especially compared to one of the largest Transformers in the movie. Prime is bigger than Kong is (taller), and has ways of keeping Kong from every getting his hands around him.

Third, all of Kong's great feats of strength involve throwing things; snapping the roof of a Rex's mouth (bone) doesn't cut it here, not when he's up against giant ancient alien robots. I've already demonstrated that a punch from Kong to Prime's body would do minimal damage at best, and would probably result in Kong breaking his own bones.

Because with PIS removed, he should kick an unholy amount of ass, especially against a giant gorilla with no guns.

And stop posting spoilers, please; the tags don't cover them when I quote you.

Prime whips the gun off of his back in under two seconds, and the sword takes even less time to transform (I think). He would shoot Kong's head off before it could get anywhere near him, and if he didn't, he'd already have the sword waiting to slash him up.

Which are still enough.

Edit: Prime isn't a hundred-pound feline. Leopard =/= Prime.

Ya dont say. But look at that spine broken from one shot.

Sorry pal, if youre quoting me, knowing that... its YOUR fault.

Two seconds is no good if Kong is a second away.

He could literally rip Prime's arm or head off.

Kongs listed height is from crouching.
Anyways all your saying is "Shorter very arguably more powerful opponent VS Technically advanced taller guy"....
Have you ever seen early/mid eighties Mike Tyson fights...?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Just that Prime never demonstrated any power stronger than a same sized human.

A silverback's strength is estimated to be 15 times human strength.

I've seen estimates as low as four, and the average estimate is ceretainly closer to that than fifteen.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ya dont say. But look at that spine broken from one shot.
1.) Animal Planet computer simulation. Not real life.

2.) Leopard spine =/= Optimus Prime.

Sorry pal, if youre quoting me, knowing that... its YOUR fault.
🙁

Two seconds is no good if Kong is a second away.
How is Kong going to be a "second away"? Again, you're stacking odds.

And even then, there's the sword, which as Placidity pointed out pops out pretty much immediately. Kong either gets blasted or skewered.

He could literally rip Prime's arm or head off.
Again, how? He isn't getting anywhere near close enough, and even if he did he hasn't demonstrated the strength to.

Kongs listed height is from crouching.
Anyways all your saying is "Shorter very arguably more powerful opponent VS Technically advanced taller guy"....
Have you ever seen early/mid eighties Mike Tyson fights...?
Megatron isn't just taller, he's built [literally] like a tank. He's also vastly more durable, capable of walking away from F-22 airstrikes, versus Kong dying to three 1930s biplanes with ammunition comparable to that loaded into hunting rifles.

So discovery channel just base their stuff on horseshit...? 🙄
Sorry man, Ive gotta take their assessment of things over yours.

All of your problems understanding how Kong gets that close will be solved when you consider that it is possible that Kong might ambush/close range.

Its nothing to do with "stacking odds".

If you say Prime can defintely beat Kong, then he has to be covered in all eventualities. And Kong ambushing him, immediately attacking the head/face, or hands as they do, is such a possibility.

Watch the movie. The F22 airstrikes are partly what bought Megatron down.

Again with 'the hunting rifles'...

Why had hunting rifles had no effect on kong then, til that point...?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
All of your problems understanding how Kong gets that close will be solved when you consider that it is possible that Kong might ambush/close range.

Its nothing to do with "stacking odds".

The thread starter didn't specify where this fight would be taking place. The most logical assumption would be that it's in a relatively level playing field with both combatants fully aware of the others presence and with a clear line of sight.

Watch the movie. The F22 airstrikes are partly what bought Megatron down.
He fell over. He was clearly still very much alive.

Again with 'the hunting rifles'...

Why had hunting rifles had no effect on kong then, til that point...?

Hunting rifles now have better ammo than hunting rifles did in the 30s.

And did anyone on foot actually manage to shoot Kong without killed?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
[B]Just that Prime never demonstrated any power stronger than a same sized human.

A silverback's strength is estimated to be 15 times human strength.

Therefore on paper Kong looks favorite for the strength.

People are never 100% sure about Quantum physics, but we live in a world surrounded by technology that the theory has produced.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
[B] Prove that your linear growth chart holds any canon place in a fictional universe, considering that using that same logic, Kong would be crushed by his own weight. You're picking and choosing real world physics to suit your argument.

Okay The proof is on screen when you watch King Kong.
Something you conveniently omit.

If he didnt have same strength at that size, he couldnt bound around on his knuckles, swing from shit, leap like he does, stealing vaudeville dancers, ruling islands and beating up T-rexes, crshing their skulls..

To argue that there is no proof that he has the strength of his size is absolutely insane and ironic also..

Do you believe that any level of blunt truma to concrete should produce and firey big explosion, yes or no...?

King kong loses even if he ambushed. I think sadako is trolling

Optimus wins

Wow this thread exists.

Steel>flesh.

Optimus with his twin energy arm blades will dice up Kong pretty solidly.

After all 3 TF movies, it's ludicrous to think Kong stands even a ghost of a chance. Prime is way faster in combat, and does tons more damage.

Don't know why you dug up this relic though, lol.

king kong rips prime in half. what a dumb thread.

8 pages? i suspect Quan is involved.

Poop to the face = blinded Optimus.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
king kong rips prime in half. what a dumb thread.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
king kong rips prime in half. what a dumb thread.

There's something dumb in this thread, alright....

But Sadako is being a trolling idiot. Kong gets cut into Prime Rib, no question 😉

No Lestov, Kong feats per size vastly outdo the feats of Prime.
So to argue against Kong so vehemently is the troll fool position.

Troll.

Fool.

Trolly fool.