Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Source?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen_Marek#Powers_and_abilities
First off, Cloud's Omnislash is special, why? Because it has been stated to render ALL DEFENSES ineffective, meaning it's capable of breaking through any forms of defense. Reasons why Omnislash can work on Sephiroth, and lets be reasonable, if Sephiroth had just put 50% effort, instead of 10%, he would have easily defeated Cloud.
The whole force grip is absolutely outrageous, because again, Sephiroth has shown that he has telekinesis as well, and is very proficient at it. So the whole "force grip to pop his brain" theory notion to me doesn't hold any water, because in order for this to happen, Sephiroth has to be inherently weaker then Galen. Which in this case, Sephiroth is not, the guy can fly, manipulates the lifestream of the planet, not to mention he has the whole vast knowledge of the lifestream as well.
He can teleport (If his VII inferior Clone was teleporting in which Sephiroth was wielding through thought, the real Sephiroth would easily be capable of doing so), and I don't see Galen going around chopping debris that's like 5x the size of his weapon.
Again, the problem arises in that Sephiroth has not shown his full strength, which is what arises the problem. However, just look at DoC Vincent, if in Full Chaos mode he came down to the planet with a force blast that literally covered 1/3 of the entire VII planet, which sent a shockwave that engulfed the entire planet, and he's not even as powerful as Sephiroth. Then honestly, Sephiroth's potential must be ridiculous. Also, would Galen be able to survive such a blast from someone like Chaos Vincent...because if Chaos Vincent is stated to be weaker then Sephiroth and he can do this...what's Seph's true capabilities then?
For me again, he's underrated, and omnipotent for Galen? The only way I can believe that is if he's like on Jean Grey/Phoenix Level, otherwise I disregard that.
No way Galen will "force grip" his way to victory, this would come down to a sword fight, and with that notion, I vote for Sephiroth. Teleportation, super speed, super strength, can fly, cuts through debris like it were a joke.
Originally posted by JustFrameOnly Sephiroth has shown no resistance to keep his brain from being popped, and Galen is hundreds of times better than Sephiroth in terms of TK.
First off, Cloud's Omnislash is special, why? Because it has been stated to render ALL DEFENSES ineffective, meaning it's capable of breaking through any forms of defense. Reasons why Omnislash can work on Sephiroth, and lets be reasonable, if Sephiroth had just put 50% effort, instead of 10%, he would have easily defeated Cloud.The whole force grip is absolutely outrageous, because again, Sephiroth has shown that he has telekinesis as well, and is very proficient at it. So the whole "force grip to pop his brain" theory notion to me doesn't hold any water, because in order for this to happen, Sephiroth has to be inherently weaker then Galen. Which in this case, Sephiroth is not, the guy can fly, manipulates the lifestream of the planet, not to mention he has the whole vast knowledge of the lifestream as well.
He can teleport (If his VII inferior Clone was teleporting in which Sephiroth was wielding through thought, the real Sephiroth would easily be capable of doing so), and I don't see Galen going around chopping debris that's like 5x the size of his weapon.
Again, the problem arises in that Sephiroth has not shown his full strength, which is what arises the problem. However, just look at DoC Vincent, if in Full Chaos mode he came down to the planet with a force blast that literally covered 1/3 of the entire VII planet, which sent a shockwave that engulfed the entire planet, and he's not even as powerful as Sephiroth. Then honestly, Sephiroth's potential must be ridiculous. Also, would Galen be able to survive such a blast from someone like Chaos Vincent...because if Chaos Vincent is stated to be weaker then Sephiroth and he can do this...what's Seph's true capabilities then?
For me again, he's underrated, and omnipotent for Galen? The only way I can believe that is if he's like on Jean Grey/Phoenix Level, otherwise I disregard that.
No way Galen will "force grip" his way to victory, this would come down to a sword fight, and with that notion, I vote for Sephiroth. Teleportation, super speed, super strength, can fly, cuts through debris like it were a joke.
As for Cloud's Omnislash BS, that is a No-Limits fallacy. All it has done is kill Sephiroth, whose durability is not impressive anyway.
Sephiroth has knocked off a small section of building and TKed like 8 guys. Nothing to Galen.
Being able to fly, manipulate Lifestream, and holding knowledge about the Lifestream(no seriously, wtf is that going to do for him in this fight?) are not defenses to having a brain popped. That's like me saying that Galactus can hit Goku with a galaxy destroying blast and then you saying that Goku can sense Ki. Seriously, stop posting.
Galen cuts AT-ATs in half. 😐
Vincent destroyed Omega Weapon(Who was weakened) by flying through him, Omega Weapon's death explosion made that shockwave, which also did not affect the planet AT ALL.
Galen would pop Vincent's brain. 🙂
SEPHIROTH underrated!? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
No seriously, what? He is quite possibly THE most overrated character used in Game Vs.
Why can't Galen Force Grip his way to victory when he has DONE IT?
There is absolutely NO evidence Sephiroth is immune to having his brain popped.
Also, if you think Sephiroth's sword can cut better than a lightsaber, GTFO, would you kindly?
Originally posted by Phanteros
no need for all that plus we are using cannon feats. sephiroth loses because of of the Feats galen shows out weighs the feats sephiroth has/not shown in the movie plus the taking down the star destroyer beats the debris cutting.overall Starkiller wins
Originally posted by JustFrame
First off, Cloud's Omnislash is special, why? Because it has been stated to render ALL DEFENSES ineffective, meaning it's capable of breaking through any forms of defense. Reasons why Omnislash can work on Sephiroth, and lets be reasonable, if Sephiroth had just put 50% effort, instead of 10%, he would have easily defeated Cloud.The whole force grip is absolutely outrageous, because again, Sephiroth has shown that he has telekinesis as well, and is very proficient at it. So the whole "force grip to pop his brain" theory notion to me doesn't hold any water, because in order for this to happen, Sephiroth has to be inherently weaker then Galen. Which in this case, Sephiroth is not, the guy can fly, manipulates the lifestream of the planet, not to mention he has the whole vast knowledge of the lifestream as well.
He can teleport (If his VII inferior Clone was teleporting in which Sephiroth was wielding through thought, the real Sephiroth would easily be capable of doing so), and I don't see Galen going around chopping debris that's like 5x the size of his weapon.
Again, the problem arises in that Sephiroth has not shown his full strength, which is what arises the problem. However, just look at DoC Vincent, if in Full Chaos mode he came down to the planet with a force blast that literally covered 1/3 of the entire VII planet, which sent a shockwave that engulfed the entire planet, and he's not even as powerful as Sephiroth. Then honestly, Sephiroth's potential must be ridiculous. Also, would Galen be able to survive such a blast from someone like Chaos Vincent...because if Chaos Vincent is stated to be weaker then Sephiroth and he can do this...what's Seph's true capabilities then?
For me again, he's underrated, and omnipotent for Galen? The only way I can believe that is if he's like on Jean Grey/Phoenix Level, otherwise I disregard that.
No way Galen will "force grip" his way to victory, this would come down to a sword fight, and with that notion, I vote for Sephiroth. Teleportation, super speed, super strength, can fly, cuts through debris like it were a joke.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
As for Cloud's Omnislash BS, that is a No-Limits fallacy. All it has done is kill Sephiroth, whose durability is not impressive anyway.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Being able to fly, manipulate Lifestream, and holding knowledge about the Lifestream(no seriously, wtf is that going to do for him in this fight?) are not defenses to having a brain popped. That's like me saying that Galactus can hit Goku with a galaxy destroying blast and then you saying that Goku can sense Ki. Seriously, stop posting.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Why can't Galen Force Grip his way to victory when he has DONE IT?
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Also, if you think Sephiroth's sword can cut better than a lightsaber, GTFO, would you kindly?
Originally posted by k1Lla441
dude, it pretty much comes down to who can get there tk grip down faster, and seph has not shown to be faster than a jedi, so it pretty much goes to galen. galen, at the start of the match, would pop his brain, so none of the "sword" play would even take place.
Originally posted by niduin1. Gameplay mechanic, means jack-shit in a debate.
are you kidding?, ok in ff7 sephiroth was geting hit by a dragon that kills a normal human easy and was taking absolutly no damage. actualy no it was enough to kill Zack who was no pushoverthat wasntt meant to say those abuilities would kill him, its just showing the magnatude of his abuilities
he did it to something much MUCH weaker than sephiroth
well in that case the sword its self doesnt but the weilder does, in episode one when they were trying to get thru the blast door, it was not an instant thing, and if sephiroth was doing it it would be one slash with his sword
2. And irrelevant to my argument.
3. A Star Destroyer is much weaker than Sephiroth? I loled. And a brain is not durable in most cases.
4. You know, it is called a BLAST DOOR for a reason. 😬
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Gameplay mechanic, means jack-shit in a debate.2. And irrelevant to my argument.
3. A Star Destroyer is much weaker than Sephiroth? I loled. And a brain is not durable in most cases.
4. You know, it is called a BLAST DOOR for a reason. 😬
Originally posted by niduin
1 its not game mechanics its how strong he is, where did you even get that from?
Irrelevant because the attack was aimed at his body, meaning his super human skull protected his brain. The force goes right through his skull and attacks his brain directly. Your brain is the softest, most vulnerable part of your entire body, hence why it's surrounded by a skull.
You want to prove that Sephiroth's brain can tank enough crushing power to smash durasteel with utter ease?
What's Sephiroth's brain's best durability feat?
I don't care what his actual body can take because your brain is hundreds of times softer than the rest of your body is.
Prove up.
3 yes a star destroyer is much weaker than sephiroth, and also he didnt pop a star destoyers brain...or did he???
No it's not. A Star Destroyer's shields can take multiple shots from other star destroyers. One or two blasts from a star destroyer cannon is enough to vaporize an entire city instantly.
No.
4 so im not sure but are you just confirming my argument? cuz if im interpreting it right your saying that the light saber cant cut it because its a blast door, but you didnt say anything about sephiroth being able to do it or not, so im assuming that you aree with me [/B]
Blast doors are built out of the most durable metals in star wars. A blast door is so durable that heavy blaster bolts bounce off of it. Those bolts have a temperature of thousands of degrees. 😬
The fact that the lightsaber was able to cut through it in seconds is in itself amazing.
Originally posted by Final Blaxicanok that wasnt my argument at all someone said that sephiroths durability is low i was correcting him
Irrelevant because the attack was aimed at his body, meaning his super human skull protected his brain. The force goes right through his skull and attacks his brain directly. Your brain is the softest, most vulnerable part of your entire body, hence why it's surrounded by a skull.
Originally posted by Final Blaxicanhave you played ff7? do you have any concept of how powerful sephiroth is? he can easily destroy a star destroyer
No it's not. A Star Destroyer's shields can take multiple shots from other star destroyers. One or two blasts from a star destroyer cannon is enough to vaporize an entire city instantly.No..
Originally posted by Final Blaxicanagain thats my point
Blast doors are built out of the most durable metals in star wars. A blast door is so durable that heavy blaster bolts bounce off of it. Those bolts have a temperature of thousands of degrees. 😬The fact that the lightsaber was able to cut through it in seconds is in itself amazing.
Originally posted by niduin
ok that wasnt my argument at all someone said that sephiroths durability is low i was correcting him
His brains durabiltiy is nothing special. Which is the point. Sephiroth's BODY can be durable as hell, but it won't matter when Galen snaps his fingers and his brain literally pops inside his skull from the pressure being put on it.
have you played ff7? do you have any concept of how powerful sephiroth is? he can easily destroy a star destroyer
Prove it.
again thats my point
Prove Sephiroth can slice through the blast door in one slice.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican*shakes head* ok with the first part, as i said before that wasnt my point, im not saying that his brain cant be hurt i was saying that his body is durable cuz someone said it wasnt ok thank you. and i dont need to prove it, it should be obviose sure he hasnt cut thru anything that tough that we know of, i mean he has killed dragons and other monsters we dont know how strong their scales are, cloud cut buhamat pretymuch in half and he is the king of dragons and seph is stronger than cloud. oh and buhamat was about to destroy the city when cloud went thur the blast disrupting it (oh and survived the blast) so im prety sure that sephiroth is capable of something a little more powerful that destroying a city or say a star destroyer
His brains durabiltiy is nothing special. Which is the point. Sephiroth's BODY can be durable as hell, but it won't matter when Galen snaps his fingers and his brain literally pops inside his skull from the pressure being put on it.Prove it.
Prove Sephiroth can slice through the blast door in one slice.
Everything you just posted is speculation, friend.
"He killed a dragon and those scales might be stronger and also a bunch of other monsters we don't know how tough their skin is but they might be tougher than a star destroyers and also Behemut might be tougher because he's king of the dragons and maybe this and maybe that.
That's a lot of maybes and mights, man."