Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
2. A powerful mind does not automatically equal Godlike telekinesis. Superman has a powerful mind, he does not have telekinesis. Now, Sephiroth does have telekinesis, but until he shows a feat that is even half on par with Galen Marek's TK feats, why should we assume his is anywhere near comparable?
Superman has no telekinesis ability so he's completely mute and let's be seriously, we've seen Superman broken down more then once already to show that he can be brought down in this sense. Not to mention, when has Superman ever has his entire body dissolve completely and still not die? When has Superman ever been powerful enough to reshape a new body and return back from the dead twice?
Superman's mind doesn't even touch Sephiroth's, so let's not even talk about that ever again.
You seemingly forget that Sephiroth would have held back the Power of Holy with Telekinesis so that it would dwell within the planet and not surge forward to counter Meteor right? You do know where Holy's power is coming from right? Oh yeah...Aeris summoned this from the Planet Itself, and Holy>>>>A giant ship, considering that Holy is PURE Energy and the most powerful form since it was the only thing left to stop Holy. So tell me what would be more amazing, taking down a ship...or preventing a power of a planet to stop a planet destroying object?
Take your pick and choose carefully.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
3. You are assuming they are equals. The Junon cannon and the Shinra building(just a building) have not shown the durability of a blast door, why assume it has it? Prove up or shut up.4. Lightsaber's "blades" are just incredibly condensed heat, heat which>The sun I believe in fact.
5. Only the Masamune has only cut through metals that were far inferior by durability feats. I do not have to prove they are not as durable as blast doors, you have to prove they are.
Firstly, we can't prove anything, we don't know how durable their technology is (VII metal Universe). The fact that you assume those "blast door's" are greater in durability is your bias opinion to think that what Sephiroth cuts through is weaker. The fact is simple, I don't know how durable the metal is in the VII Universe, however you don't know how durable those blast doors either. So your basically contradicting yourself here by assuming that one is weaker then the other.
However it's CANON that Lightsabers can't cut through thing's easily when they hit a hard tough object regardless of what type of metal it is, so long as it's a thick object, it takes awhile to cut through. Try to have a LightSaber swing at a thick massive boulder, it would slow down due to the resistance. George Lucas tried to stay true with reality on the form of the LightSaber and it's cutting habits, otherwise the Jedi's could have/would have/should have rip through anything with ease. The form of why a Light Saber will take longer to cut was shown in similar fashion to a Samurai Sword impacting something tough and thick, it will slow down, because there is a resistance against it, thus eventually it will cut or go through, but it will take a longer period of time, or else will take far greater strength from the wielder physically.
Sephiroth is sitting there chopping a Canon in half with utter and complete ease showing absolutely no signs of pure effort, not only that, he didn't even chop it with the blade of the sword, but by simply swinging his weapon and sending out multiple gigantic waves at it.
Can you show me of a LightSaber doing a similar feat in diameter, or anything on that level period? Please, there are NONE of such case. You need to stop thinking that a LightSaber has the same capabilities as Sephiroth's Masamune, because it simply doesn't due to the fact it's restricted with reality boundaries as I stated above (I urge you, go on to True SW fansites that look for canonical and reality boundaries involving SW's and you'll see that what I say about Light Sabers are true). Sephiroth's Masamune completely defies reality, because there is absolutely no way a Metallic sword is capable of such a feat, however within the VII world, these Swords are shown cutting giantic boulders, debris, concrete, and massive metal objects with no effort from the wielders.
Light Saber does not = Heat of the Sun...where are you seriously getting this...lol?
Masamune>>>>Light Saber.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
6. Point? The FFVII verse is nowhere near as powerful as the Star Wars verse is. The top dog in Star Wars with telekinesis can manipulate black holes, Darth Vader, whom Galen Marek defeated, can use Force Choke from light-years away.
Are we talking about the most powerful SW characters in here? Last I remember, this was Galen vs Sephiroth, not Most Powerful SW character vs Most Powerful FF VII character. Get that out of here, and stop derailing the topic at hand.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
7. Only Galen Marek by feats does have far greater telekinesis than Sephiroth. Try again. Yes, he needs to use his mind, to pop his brain, which would not take a long time, it would be instant, and Sephiroth would not be able to defend against it. What about this is hard to understand?8. Never did, I would like you to not use Strawmen arguments against me sir. However, Sephiroth has not shown a fifth of Galen's TK feats, and Sephiroth, would NOT be able to react to Galen's TK in time.
Read what I stated earlier above about Sephiroth holding back Holy, and come back and reply to me again.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
9. Which means what? That Sephiroth will manipulate weak ass clones to the battle? He was not controlling each clone, he was calling for them.
Manipulating them, manipulating Cloud, holding back Holy, and making sure that the entire LifeStream is going to divert towards himself all at once...yes, you forgot all of these...and oh yes, he was only using his Mind/Will.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
10. He only directly controlled one Sephiroth clone, and it was actually Jenova.
Who controls Jenova? In fact who within the entire existence of FFVII has been able to achieve this feat? Usually Jenova controls and messes with the one who has been injected with it. Sephiroth is the only one who can completely manipulate and bend it to his will. He basically has all of Jenova's abilities at the ready due to this very reason.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
11. I don't hate Sephiroth, quite the contrary in fact, but he is horrendously overrated, and yes, by those magical space pixies called feats, Galen can.
Overrated because he has a huge fanbase I'm presuming? The fact that you claim his telekinesis is weak is every indication your underrating him, again, compare the feats...Sephiroth was doing thing's on a planet threat level in both VII and AC. While Galen...hmmm...right.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
12. Yeah, but the mind will not stop him from having his head caved in. Sephiroth has never countered telekinesis, let alone TK on Galen's level.13. Nah.
14. That was not bashing you.
A good answer might be that we don't know of someone who is on par with Sephiroth in the VII Universe with the same telekinesis, we do know that Sephiroth has been holding back, so his feats in AC using Telekinesis is not his full potential (something most of you SW fanatics seemingly dismiss), not to mention all of you are dismissing that he held back Holy, and the only way to have done this was to have utilized telekinesis to do so, since Aeris summoned it, the energy of Holy would have rushed forward already to prevent Meteor from striking before hand. In order to stop that force, Sephiroth TKed it to remain within the planet. Remember that while he's doing this...he's doing the 1093482093 other things with his mind as well.
This is why only when Sephiroth died, was Holy able to escape from within the planet and came forth to try and counter Meteor...however it didn't just take Holy deriving from the planet itself, but the entire lifestream as well in order to stop Meteor (Thank Aeris for the Lifestream+Holy effort).
Not only does Sephiroth have ALL of Jenova's abilities, but he also has the near infinite knowledge of the LifeStream itself at his disposal. Galen TKed a giant ship, while Sephiroth TKed the strength of Holy deriving from the planet itself. Not to mention, Sephiroth's great feats are on a planet level...notice how in AC, he's again utilizing the corrupted LifeStream of the world in which he has now manipulated with Geostigma.
If anyone who remotely had an open mind were to read all of these, they would come to the conclusion that Sephiroth would be more then a match for Galen and that a simple TK wouldn't give Galen the free match up because it wouldn't work.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
14. That was not bashing you.
Please man, I was the only one to tell you to keep it clean, however you mocked my statements by literally cussing on purpose as a retaliation to me telling you to keeping it clean. Cussing to provoke someone is against the rules mind you.