starkiller vs sephiroth

Originally posted by JustFrame
You don't need to go by feats, because everything that Sephiroth has done thus far, he has been holding back.

So then you're going by speculation?

If so, that's not how debates work on this forum, my friend.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
just wanted to add in the fact that he may have a "strong mind" in a physical sense, but in actual mind he isnt.

i still don't see how seph can beat Starkiller based on what i heard will power can defeat the life stream so starkiller has that. right?

No, Galen isn't "part of the life stream".

Originally posted by Phanteros
i still don't see how seph can beat Starkiller based on what i heard will power can defeat the life stream so starkiller has that. right?

ok the most impresive tk of galen, pullind down the star destroyer, concentrating hard to do so. the most impresive tk of sephiroth, holding back Holy a spell to defend the planet from destruction, was fighting 3 people at once while doing so and not having a hard time at all doing so. galen can jump high and zoom thru the air temporarily, sephiroth can fly. both fast cant prove either way who is faster so not going to try. sephiroth effortlessly cut thu a gigantic canon with the waves of energy from his sword, galen....thinking....oh cut thru a mech "physicly" sephiroth controlled jenova the most powerful at telepathy (up to that point) in the world. galen...might have done some jedi mind trick i dont know, let me know his most impresive here please. so from that i say that sephiroth is the winner

But can Sephiroth see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

hmmmm good question, let me look it up

no he cant, he thought it would summon meteor

Holding back holy is not an impressive TK feat, it just dissintegrates meteor but its energy, its not physical weight so lifting up a human being could indeed be far more impressive considering we dont know the weight of holy, it likely isnt much since its energy.

galen...might have done some jedi mind trick i dont know, let me know his most impresive here please. so from that i say that sephiroth is the winner

He can effortlessly send stormtroopers to sleep and make them his mental b*tch ala kenobi.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Holding back holy is not an impressive TK feat, it just dissintegrates meteor but its energy, its not physical weight so lifting up a human being could indeed be far more impressive considering we dont know the weight of holy, it likely isnt much since its energy.

False, not necesserily false, simply heat, perhaps just power, but not necesserily force. If you bashed at a thick lump of concrete with a titanium bar for a few minutes, it would do little damage. If you poured gently the highest type of acid or a molten liquid onto the concrete, it would melt and destroy it in a fairly short amount of time. Holy may simply be a hot ball of energy, not a forceful hit.

Your just randomly assuming it was impressive and forceful.

no holy is not meant to just destroy meteor, it is meant to defend it, from anything, and not everything would be effected by heat or energy, also it wasnt destroying it, it was stoping it it was the life stream that destroyed it

defending the planet not meteor

It was destroying it, but as the cast said, it was too late and failed....the lifestream destroyed it after that...

stop as you said "grasping at straws", its a ball of energy of unkown force, weight and eventually its feat was worthless,becuase it did not even succeed in its intended purpose.

no it was trying to push it back, and since it couldnt thats why the life stream was destroying it, tehre was no damage at all done to it with holy it was simply holding meteor back slowing it down so the life stream could do its job

andthe only reason it didnt succede in its purpose is cuz it was released to late, thanks to sephiroths holding it back

Can you prove it was made to push meteor back? it was released to destroy meteor, what good would pushing it back do if it wasnt too late? you would still have to destroy the meteor, what are you proposing? that it was made to push a meteor endlessly into the void, that sounds ridiculous and unless youve got proof that was its design then ill be damned if I sit here debating that.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
So then you're going by speculation?

If so, that's not how debates work on this forum, my friend.

Originally posted by niduin
well the unstable part is emotional not his mental power