Originally posted by KingD19OK, 15 feet, and since we see him at 15 feet, he can fly no higher, since we are going by movies only.
I assumed that since this was the movies, we were going on what was witnessed in the movies. When did you see a Force Choke in the movie more than five feet away, tell me, please?And Magneto is shown hovering at least 15 feet off of the ground, maybe higher.
A Jedi/Sith can jump that height easily, you do know that, right?
Originally posted by ScytheYeah, thats right, totally ignore the movies. "Slightly above average human" indeed haermm
Where the f*ck is this Jedi/Sith "rushing in" or lightning fast speed coming from? Oh yeah, someone's ass. Slightly above average human beings are pretty much their speed limit.
Thats like saying the transformers are "slightly above average protocol droids." crylaugh
15 is the height I remember, it could have easily been higher in the 1st movie, the 2nd, or the 3rd, I don't remember exactly, but I'm judging by your sig and avatar, if you knew the actual height, you probably wouldn't tell us. And if a Jedi can jump that high, Magneto can easily move away, as he's hovered pretty fast, and if he doesn't do that, he can launch a saber at you while you're coming towards him.
Originally posted by KingD19And the Jedi is suddenly stripped of any and all force powers? It seems that you are forgetting the incredible array of attacks a force user wields.
15 is the height I remember, it could have easily been higher in the 1st movie, the 2nd, or the 3rd, I don't remember exactly, but I'm judging by your sig and avatar, if you knew the actual height, you probably wouldn't tell us. And if a Jedi can jump that high, Magneto can easily move away, as he's hovered pretty fast, and if he doesn't do that, he can launch a saber at you while you're coming towards him.
Speed is really irrelevant if you jumping up at someone, since you can't run in the air.
Push and pull are included in TK, and I think it's very unlikely you could do more than push or pull him while you're already focused on a jump.
Sense and strength do nothing if you can't touch your target, and what good are enhanced sense, they're fighting him, they see him, know where he is, what's the point of using their senses?
Mind manipulation doesn't work while he's wearing his helmet, if Xavier can't do it, no one can.
Lightning is the only threat to him, and how hard will it be to aim a lighting blast while you're floating upwards towards a human sized, quick moving target that can move through the air with no problems?
And now that I think about it, if Colossus is there, Magneto could use him like a human projectile, getting hit by him means instant death.
Originally posted by KingD19You saying a Jedi cannot propel themselves at someone at enhanced speeds?
Speed is really irrelevant if you jumping up at someone, since you can't run in the air.
Push and pull are included in TK, and I think it's very unlikely you could do more than push or pull him while you're already focused on a jump.An experienced force user could probably do both.
Sense and strength do nothing if you can't touch your target, and what good are enhanced sense, they're fighting him, they see him, know where he is, what's the point of using their senses?Precog, dude. They will know what he is gonna do before he does it. Before he can levitate himself, they will realize his intent, and prevent it.
Mind manipulation doesn't work while he's wearing his helmet, if Xavier can't do it, no one can.I know, I was just listing it as one of their powers.
Lightning is the only threat to him, and how hard will it be to aim a lighting blast while you're floating upwards towards a human sized, quick moving target that can move through the air with no problems?He is never shown to be "quick moving in the air", is he? From what I remember, he merely floats around. Its not like he is zipping around like a hummingbird.
And now that I think about it, if Colossus is there, Magneto could use him like a human projectile, getting hit by him means instant death.Mhm. And a Jedi is just gonna stand there with their thumbs in their asses and be hit?
Originally posted by ScytheYou really think the Hulk would be a problem for a Jedi? As I said earlier, the Hulk is just a big ass green retard. It would be nothing for a Jedi to use the Jedi mind trick on him and force choke the life out of him.
Everything adds up, except for the speed. Besides the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Juggs, and a few of the X-Men, they won't win any speed medals. Unless they took speed, in that case a room full of Jedi's foaming from the mouth would cause the entire Marvel Universe to just pull back in a vote of jest.
All the hulk know is SMASH GRAB BANG. Bruce Banner, on the other hand, would repel the mind trick easily, without even knowing he did so.
Not from what I've seen in the movie, they've merely made impressive jumps.
No one in the movie was experienced enough to do anything of the sort, and that sort of thing hasn't even been done in the books as far as I'm aware of.
They've never shown any precognitive abilities in the movies. If they had, then the assassin who got killed by Jango wouldn't have been killed, they would have felt his murderous intent, and stopped it. As far as I know, they've only felt emotions, not actual thoughts, like, I'm going to make myself float now.
He's fast moving enough to float in several different directions while take the small amount of time to charge the electrical discharge.
Considering that this isn't a 1 on 1, they might be a bit hard pressed to stop from getting hit. And even if it is just them, as fast as he moved the bridge, and other objects far larger and heavier than Pete, I'm sure he can toss him with enough speed to hit somebody.
The Hulk is not smart, true, but choking him to death, is just not in the picture, he's taken far worse punishment while fighting then getting choked. And if you choke him, do you really think he'll just sit there?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You really think the Hulk would be a problem for a Jedi? As I said earlier, the Hulk is just a big ass green retard. It would be nothing for a Jedi to use the Jedi mind trick on him and force choke the life out of him.All the hulk know is SMASH GRAB BANG. Bruce Banner, on the other hand, would repel the mind trick easily, without even knowing he did so.
You misunderstood my post, everyone I listed cannot deal with a Jedi/Sith's speed. That's why I listed them... Most of the other Marvel heroes can stand a chance with their speed, Spider-Man and Silver Surfer for instance.
Try to lay off the retard jokes, they're unnecessary.
Originally posted by ScytheWell thats what the Hulk is, innit? A big ass retard? Its not like he does calculus and shit. haermm He's a mindless wrecking machine, manipulating him would be a cakewalk for a Jedi.
You misunderstood my post, everyone I listed cannot deal with a Jedi/Sith's speed. That's why I listed them... Most of the other Marvel heroes can stand a chance with their speed, Spider-Man and Silver Surfer for instance.Try to lay off the retard jokes, they're unnecessary.
How about you post the way you do and I'll do the same haermm Besides, I thought you had me on ignore 🙄
Originally posted by KingD19
Not from what I've seen in the movie, they've merely made impressive jumps.
No one in the movie was experienced enough to do anything of the sort, and that sort of thing hasn't even been done in the books as far as I'm aware of.Count Dooku, hello.
They've never shown any precognitive abilities in the movies. If they had, then the assassin who got killed by Jango wouldn't have been killed, they would have felt his murderous intent, and stopped it. As far as I know, they've only felt emotions, not actual thoughts, like, I'm going to make myself float now.Dude, what about when Zam attacked Obi wan? And when Padme was attacked by the big ass centipedes? How do you think Jedi block blaster bolts? And when Yoda pwned the troopers fixing to kill him? "They've never showed any precog abilities in the movies" is the bonehead comment of the centruy.
He's fast moving enough to float in several different directions while take the small amount of time to charge the electrical discharge.Yes, but faster than a Jedi can track and attack? NO.
Considering that this isn't a 1 on 1, they might be a bit hard pressed to stop from getting hit. And even if it is just them, as fast as he moved the bridge, and other objects far larger and heavier than Pete, I'm sure he can toss him with enough speed to hit somebody.BIG maybe, just so you know.
The Hulk is not smart, true, but choking him to death, is just not in the picture, he's taken far worse punishment while fighting then getting choked. And if you choke him, do you really think he'll just sit there?Well what could he do? The mind trick would turn Hulk into a mindlesss zombie. Hell, a Jedi could make the Hulk do his or her bidding .
Well if that's 30-40 feet, then Magneto's flown at that height easily.
Dooku never displayed enough skill to do that, no matter how good he was.
And every time they stopped someone, it was from emotions, not thoughts. They didn't sense the bugs till they were about to kill padme(murderous, animalistic intent).
Zam trying to kill Obi-Wan(Murderous intent)
Trooper and Yoda(Murderous intent)
They don't use precog to block blasters, they let the force guide their limbs, essentially the lightsaber becomes an extension of themselves.
And while they might be able to dodge him once, I doubt they can keep doing it, he can also toss Wolverine around too.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You have to be more specific. Which Jedi? Which Sith?
I was refering to any jedi or sith show in the movies only, i can name the ones i remember
Qui Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Yoda ,Mace Windu,Ploo Koon, Kit Fisto, Shakk Ti (Jedi council movie)
Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Grievous (not a Jedi, but capable enough)
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious/Palpatine
Jango fet (not a Sith or Jedi, but capable)
Luke Skywalker
Obi wan Kenobi
if i let one out, you can make me remember, and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)
for the marvel movies characters that i remember
The fantastic four (include Dr Doom)
Blade
X men movies, heroes and villians
Electra
Dare Devil
Man thing
Ironman
Spiderman
I know some characters from these movies are easy to the jedi but i wonder what do some of you think it will happen with characters like
Venom
Dr octopus
Blade
Nightcrawler
Ciclops
Juggernaut
Originally posted by KingD19Youtube it. post it.
Well if that's 30-40 feet, then Magneto's flown at that height easily.
Dooku never displayed enough skill to do that, no matter how good he was.And in this fight there will be no murderous intent?And every time they stopped someone, it was from emotions, not thoughts. They didn't sense the bugs till they were about to kill padme(murderous, animalistic intent).
Zam trying to kill Obi-Wan(Murderous intent)
Trooper and Yoda(Murderous intent)
They don't use precog to block blasters, they let the force guide their limbs, essentially the lightsaber becomes an extension of themselves.Yes, I know this, this is Star Wars 101. The force takes over, it controls their thoughts and movements. I was referring to a Jedi sensing an attack and countering appropriately. If I wasnt clear on that before, my bad.
And while they might be able to dodge him once, I doubt they can keep doing it, he can also toss Wolverine around too.
So he can toss Wolvie around. A Jedi can toss ANYTHING around, yes, even things that have NO METAL in them.