Jedi and Siths Vs Marvel moviesheroes and villians

Originally posted by Vvendeta
I was refering to any jedi or sith show in the movies only, i can name the ones i remember

Qui Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Yoda ,Mace Windu,Ploo Koon, Kit Fisto, Shakk Ti (Jedi council movie)
Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Grievous (not a Jedi, but capable enough)
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious/Palpatine
Jango fet (not a Sith or Jedi, but capable)
Luke Skywalker
Obi wan Kenobi

if i let one out, you can make me remember, and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)

for the marvel movies characters that i remember

The fantastic four (include Dr Doom)
Blade
X men movies, heroes and villians
Electra
Dare Devil
Man thing
Ironman
Spiderman

I know some characters from these movies are easy to the jedi but i wonder what do some of you think it will happen with characters like

Venom
Dr octopus
Blade
Nightcrawler
Ciclops
Juggernaut

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You gotta list some individual matchups, dude.

You would like that wouldn't you? Its quite obvious the Jedi/Sith can't take them all. In fact they can't even take Silver Surfer and many others if they were alone.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah...so Xavier would be able to protect himself from attack AND others at the same time? I didnt know he was Superman.

No, Xavier wouldn't be protecting himself, he would be on a mind rape attack and protecting others at the same time. No he aint Superman, Supes doesn't have telepathy if you didn't know.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You gotta list some individual matchups, dude.

I did said in a royal battle wich characters stand to the end and which team prevail.

LOL

Movie Xavier is more than enough for all of them at once.

I think I saw a pretty damn good list on the first page by Placidity. Yeah, that's my post if I had the time. 😄

Personally i feel as follows-

Star Wars would rape the marvel movieverse. The jedi and siths speed would go unmatched against the X-men....,except nightcrawler. Xavier isn't going to be able to do shit to the jedi because they are TO fast and strong minded. At most Xavier will be able to read the Jedi and siths' thoughts but nothing more. constant forces push and incredible speed would lead to a blitzkrieg effect.
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To play Devils Advocate though i do have to say that the Marvelverse may have a good shot.

Storm, Rogue, nightcrawler cyclops, Sue Storm and electra might have a chance at killing the jedi, if they can work together. Rogue could easily steal away the Jedi's life force after Nightcrawler teleports her right next to one.
Electra is an assassin that can never be detected, this would be a great advantage for team marvel.

Cyclops well, Cyclops is just a beast. He unleashes a massive and never ending source of power from his eyes. His beam has INCREDIBLE range. With his visor removed, no Jedi could reach MR. Scott Summers.

Sue Storm, well She is just an incredible support character.

When have the Jedi/SIth shown to have the ability to block a mind-assault from someone as mentally powerful as Xavier?

When has Xavier shown the ability to be able to assault a mind as powerful as a Jedis'?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
When has Xavier shown the ability to be able to assault a mind as powerful as a Jedis'?

Circular argument, when have they shown to possess these "all powerful" minds?

Their little Jedi mind-trick and sensing things is but child's play to what Xavier can do with his mind. As seen per the movies.

^Palpatine brainwashed most of a galaxy into forgetting the Jedi and making themselve believe the Jedi were traitors.

In the movies?

Originally posted by Placidity
Marvel will win easily...

Characters that matter... (not in any particular order)

1. Sue Storm - Shields/Bubble in the brain.^

2. Human Torch - Super Nova^

3. Silver Surfer - Power Cosmic^

4. Dr Doom - Lightning Blasts (If Jedi get close though, he will get diced)

5. Cyclops - Same deal as above.

6. Xavier - Mind Rape^

7. Dark Phoenix - Molecular Control/Telekinesis^

8. Magneto - Rape them with flying metals, possibly destroy their lightsabers if they have metal in them.

9. Pyro - Flames seem to be a weakness of Jedi as it can't be deflected. Pyro has a very large range.

10. Sandman - Jedi/Sith have absolutely NO defense.^

11. David Banner/Absorbing Man - Again, no defense against him at all.^

12. Hulk/Abomination - Will eventually get diced, but will serve as a distraction for awhile and if the Jedi/Sith don't pay due attention to them, there will be flesh splattered everywhere.

13. Juggernaut - Can he be hurt? At least not while he is running.^

14. Galactus - Will eat them.^

^ Has the potential to solo them.

Now I'm no authority on comicbook characters, but I have a hard time believing that anyone would wipe the floor with Yoda or the Emperor. Those queers Luke and pre-Vader Anakin? Maybe, but not Yoda.

People say that Professor X can levitate things and control thoughts, but isn't that also a Jedi 101 power?

The "brainwashing" had absolutely nothing do with any use of the Force, Hatch. It was all political maneuvering and manipulation.

And even including EU, there are only two notable examples of mass telepathy that would compare to that of Xavier; a renegade clone named Joruus controlled the entire crew of a Star Destroyer (~37,000 according to one) and a Sith named Exar Kun "froze" the entire Senate Chamber (tens, hundreds of thousands). Since they don't appear in the movies, they can't be used here, so assuming he goes untouched Xavier is free to wreak havoc.

That said, Palpatine post-OT can generate movie Galactus-sized storms that consume entire starfleets and rend the fabric of space-time. His level of control over these is such that he can use them to create wormholes and transport individuals with unnerving accuracy to basically wherever he wants; he once pulled Luke Skywalker off of the surface of a planet and dropped him in a room inside a starship halfway across the galaxy. The Force would allow him to sense where all of this threats are, and he could easily get rid of any of the powerhouses in seconds, perhaps even Phoenix and Xavier, whose telepathy is neither instaneous nor perfectly accurate. I'd say he could probably solo movie Marvel.

I agree with you Publius, but you cannot deny that the Galaxy mostly forgot about the Jedi or had a highly skewed view of them through misinformation. This was done through totalitarian government coverups, but also through the use of the Force. It is arguable that the will of powerful Force sensitives essentially influence what occurs in day to day life.

Originally posted by Placidity
You would like that wouldn't you? Its quite obvious the Jedi/Sith can't take them all. In fact they can't even take Silver Surfer and many others if they were alone.

No, Xavier wouldn't be protecting himself, he would be on a mind rape attack and protecting others at the same time. No he aint Superman, Supes doesn't have telepathy if you didn't know.

You started out with this list:

Originally posted by Vvendeta
a royal fight between them, which character will prevail?
and aTeam fight, which group will win?

You can use any character at his maximum power

Marvel movies that i remember

Hulk/abomination
Spiderman/Green Gobling/Octopus/Venom/Sand man/new Gobling
Ironman
Dare devil
All the X men

etc

Now you are going with this list:

Originally posted by Vvendeta
I was refering to any jedi or sith show in the movies only, i can name the ones i remember

Qui Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Yoda ,Mace Windu,Ploo Koon, Kit Fisto, Shakk Ti (Jedi council movie)
Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Grievous (not a Jedi, but capable enough)
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious/Palpatine
Jango fet (not a Sith or Jedi, but capable)
Luke Skywalker
Obi wan Kenobi

if i let one out, you can make me remember, and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)

for the marvel movies characters that i remember

The fantastic four (include Dr Doom)
Blade
X men movies, heroes and villians
Electra
Dare Devil
Man thing
Ironman
Spiderman

I know some characters from these movies are easy to the jedi but i wonder what do some of you think it will happen with characters like

Venom
Dr octopus
Blade
Nightcrawler
Ciclops
Juggernaut

Is this your final list? Just wanna be sure before we proceed.

And I will list all Jedi/Sith shown in the movies.

Another thing. Do the Jedi have complete access to all their weaponry and resources, just like the Xmen do?

Originally posted by Publius II
That said, Palpatine post-OT can generate movie Galactus-sized storms that consume entire starfleets and rend the fabric of space-time. His level of control over these is such that he can use them to create wormholes and transport individuals with unnerving accuracy to basically wherever he wants; he once pulled Luke Skywalker off of the surface of a planet and dropped him in a room inside a starship halfway across the galaxy. The Force would allow him to sense where all of this threats are, and he could easily get rid of any of the powerhouses in seconds, perhaps even Phoenix and Xavier, whose telepathy is neither instaneous nor perfectly accurate. I'd say he could probably solo movie Marvel.

Oh, **** me, if we're going to reach into non-movie feats, then Jean Grey with the mother****ing Phoenix Force can destory everyone, she could kill people before they're even conceived by snuffing out the "life force" held in reserve for them, she can time travel, suck the liferforce from people, absorb suns etc. etc. etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, **** me, if we're going to reach into non-movie feats, then Jean Grey with the mother****ing Phoenix Force can destory everyone, she could kill people before they're even conceived by snuffing out the "life force" held in reserve for them, she can time travel, suck the liferforce from people, absorb suns etc. etc. etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, **** me, if we're going to reach into non-movie feats, then Jean Grey with the mother****ing Phoenix Force can destory everyone, she could kill people before they're even conceived by snuffing out the "life force" held in reserve for them, she can time travel, suck the liferforce from people, absorb suns etc. etc. etc.

Thread Starter
and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just ignore the non movie shit, dude.

More times than not, some pro SW fanny is either bringing in something from the books or flat out dictating their own intrepretation of the films as canon.

Originally posted by Publius II
His parameters, not mine.

Which is nonsense, as this is the "Movie Vs." forum.

Also, which "some" do we bring in, who decides which parts are okay and which parts are not? Why no written material for the Marvel crowd?