ALI vs Bruce Lee

Muhammad Ali (with feats from "The Greatest", "Ali" and his fights which were shown in theatres back in the day as releases) finally is pitted against Bruce Lee, (Feats of the "The dragon" movie and documentaries released at the theatres and anything else in which he has played himself in.)

Scenario A:
Both fighters fight inside the tournament rules of their form.
Last to be sparked out unconcious on the floor wins.

Scenario B:
Both fighters are free to employ any unarmed attack they wish.
To the death.

Oh hell. I'm not even touching this one again. I remember a few years ago. This same thread popped up in the Sports forum and again in the General Discussion forum. I still haven't recovered from the fatigue suffered during those ever-lasting arguments.

I will, however, still stand by my decision...,Bruce Lee.

This will be interesting though because, unlike, the previous Ali Vs Lee threads this is only on Bruce Lees' movie feats. Considering that, it should be easier to persuade people in believing that Lee would rock Ali but im still not touching this one. 😂

A hundred times Bruce Lee

Film or not Bruce Lee would win hands down every single time. Ali may have had the power and the endurance, but Lee's technique and knowledge would have taken down Ali no problem.

"Size matters not..." A great being once said.

A great puppet once said.

Playing devil's advocate in response to that:

Im afraid that just applied to force users using the force and mental attitude. (Not in situations where you are in danger of being destroyed by a 6ft3 220-235 pound proven champion.)

I wasnt saying all Lee's films, but any feats recorded in any theatre released film based on documentary movies and "The Dragon".

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
A great puppet once said.

Playing devil's advocate in response to that:

Im afraid that just applied to force users using the force and mental attitude. (Not in situations where you are in danger of being destroyed by a 6ft3 220-235 pound proven champion.)

I wasnt saying all Lee's films, but any feats recorded in any theatre released film based on documentary movies and "The Dragon".

Indeed.

Size DOES matter.

Since Bruce is the learned MMA fighter, he wins movie world and real world. Hands dizzown an any case. Ali will be one tough mofo to knock out...but kill?...Bruce should be the only one with traiing to actually pull that off.

Unproven MMA fighter, comparatively.

People die in fistfights all the time, and remember that Ali bare knuckle'd only have to catch the much smaller Lee once, maybe twice and its all over.

Unless you can prove that Lee took blows from men of Ali's size/speed, this puts Ali as favorite as with that speed and power, his reach is longer than Lee's leg reach in kicks...

I'd like to see Lee survive an uppercut or straight right hand to the throat, also, for example.

(Keep in mind that there'll be no compliance/choreography in this fight.)

Ali knocks his ****ing head off in real life and otherwise.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Unproven MMA fighter, comparatively.

People die in fistfights all the time, and remember that Ali bare knuckle'd only have to catch the much smaller Lee once, maybe twice and its all over.

Unless you can prove that Lee took blows from men of Ali's size/speed, this puts Ali as favorite as with that speed and power, his reach is longer than Lee's leg reach in kicks...

I'd like to see Lee survive an uppercut or straight right hand to the throat, also, for example.

(Keep in mind that there'll be no compliance/choreography in this fight.)

This is movie versus, really. So you can argue that all day...but you've already done that. We've argued about this tirelessly in that real world thread. Since this is to the death, Lee would win in the real world, too. Does Ali have training on how to kill a person? Does Ali have any MMA training anywhere on level with Bruce?

Since this is movies, Ali gets raped with extreme vengence. When has Ali ever kicked a person off the groun, several feet? (Ali has done that many times in real life, not just movies.)

Boxers these days are signifantly better than Ali. Let's put a tope heavyweight MMA fighter up against a top Boxer. Better yet, let's put a top free style martial artist (he can use any style he likes...) against a top MMA fighter. Compare those. Who would win out of that?

Since I'm fairly sure an MMA fighter is best suited to win any street fight against anyone, that doesn't work too well. However, a free style martial artist may not fair as well against a top notch boxer. Of course, I could be wrong and be really retarded and a Martial Artist would make short work of a boxer....but I find that unlikely.

Bruce Lee will win every single time...

Ali may have stamina and all that, but can Ali block Lee's kicks, I highly doubt it..

Bruce also had great punching power as well which he displayed

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Bruce Lee will win every single time...

Ali may have stamina and all that, but can Ali block Lee's kicks, I highly doubt it..

Bruce also had great punching power as well which he displayed

Indeed.

From what I understand, boxers get their arses handed to them at freestyle and MMA tournies.

Not a midget versus someone of Ali's size.

But maybe a midget that can break concrete with his head.

Which isn't something all that impressive. Six-year old Muay Thai fighters can do the same thing.

His head will need to be resiliant against the rapid, brain bouncing onslaught of punches that will be constanly on him, I guess.

Movie Bruce Lee took blows from a guy who could bend a big ass steel pole (The Russian in Chinese Connection) . The Russian was no skinny wimp and weighted about has much as Ali. The Dragon took on a whole school of Black Belt bushido karate practicioners and won. The Dragon can leap feet into the air and kill a man with one kick (Chinese Connection). The Dragon can kill a man with one punch (in First of Fury). The Dragon can pick up 2 grown Japanese men and fling them around like rag dolls (Chinese Connection). The Dragon is so fast a Kung Fu master threw a knife at him and Dragon kicked it back into the throwers stomach. Anybody who thinks movie Ali wins has not seen any Bruce Lee movies.

I said "the dragon movie" and any other of those old documenatries, particularly any released at the theatres.

Movies: Lee wins with one flying kick.

Real Life: Ali punches the little man in the face and he goes down.

😂

Thats more like it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I said "the dragon movie" and any other of those old documenatries, particularly any released at the theatres.

Haha. Sorry dewd, I got excited and jumped the gun. 😄
Lee wins either way, he is much more versatile.