It's something I make a point of doing before I make a decision, reading the entire thread! Haha. All in all this thread's been fun, Killa, but I'm kinda losing the will to debate with so many Link threads open at once.
Hence I'm trying to make threads that use other characters, haha.. ha..ha.. /pulls out hair and jumps up and down on hat.
PROOF JACKPOT WERKZ? ANYONE? D:<
K, done. o_o I'm okay!
Originally posted by k1Lla441
Why didnt you just do each part a different number in numeric order? like 1,2,3,4,5...? Anyways, its much easier.1. Mirrors shield still doesnt do much more than an average shield.
Quicksilver is one of my few sticking points, your right. If he didnt have it (or some other time controlling item/power) then his speed/reaction time would not be quick enough in my opinion to get past link without getting badly injured or killed. There is no way link could activate the inverted song of time fast enough before dante could blitz him. He would then have to get back to a battle stance, and pull out his sword again. No chance. And even if he did, it only slows time by 1/2, which would hardly take anything away from qs, if you watch the vid i shown you it slow rocks that were falling from the sky to nearly stopped, so slow it looked as if they werent moving at all. It would never cancel out, the most his inverted song of time would do would barely budge the power of qs (and thats even if he could pull it out, play the song, and get back into battle position before dante got to him). This is definitely not increase links chances of winning.2. Already apologised 🙂
3. Where does it show link getting slashed directly by ganon? If it never happened, then what was your point of mentioning this?
4. Its not moot, its simple. Link has never taken an impaling or slash directly to him from ganon iirc. So saying that "if link can take ganons attacks, it would be easy to take dantes" is truly the only thing thats moot here, becuase the type of attacks that ganon does are not nearly as deadly as the type of attacks dante would do. Dante would impale him, and like we've both agreed on, that [b]multiplies
the force of the impaler, while ganon has never impaled him nor gave link a direct slash (iirc), so to assume that link can easily with stand dantes attacks because he took ganons typical, not so deadly style attacks is absurd.5. What do you mean "best" slashing and impaling feats? Dante is strong, not nearly as strong as link, but with his speed, combing with his strength and the fact that hes using a sword is a enough to drive through links skin. And if your trying to say that his sword would break, i dont think so, his sword has never broken before, and its no normal sword, it was given to him by his father iirc. And even if it does break, since link gets all of his abilites, so does dante, and dante has more than one sword, at one point in devil may cry he had yamato, which has much more cutting force than rebellion does, if you know your devil may cry then you would already know this.
6. I understand completely what your saying, again its COMPLETELY different than an impaling. and explosion would hit your whole body, leveling out the amount of force put on link, but like a said, putting force to a single tip multiplies it tremendously, and who know, dante could easily drive his sword through links neck which would be much easier than his back or chest.
7. Same as 6. and just for reference, could you show me the vid again, because even though i have beaten the game and have seen the scene myself, this whole thing sounds a little sketchy to me.
He wouldnt "swing" the sword, he would thrust it at him, it would be much harder to break that way, actually the only way it could break if dante directly thrusted it at him is for it to disinegrate, or smash directly inward from the tip. Yea, its not going to break.8. Yes it does, becuase if it doesnt he can just back off for a bit while it regenerates, and it would be like as if it never happened. He would have to kill him or his efforts would be pointless. [/B]
1. Quicksilver again has very short life per use, when initially on start up it seems to stop time around him completely for half a second, including himself. In the cutscene with the rocks, lets say time slowed down by say 90%, because they were still moving albeit very slowly. The inverted song of time slows down time by 50% as you said, thats already a huge chunk of what QS does and it would slow down that speed advantage from QS accordingly. When I said cancel each other out, I meant that QS slows down time more canonically but does not last long at all, where as Inverted Song of Time slows it down by only half but lasts as long you want. Both of their advantages lessen when put against each other.
And again, about the speed issue of putting the song into use, Link can still pull off Nayru's Love before he uses the song.
2. Ok. 🙂
3. Actually forgive me, it was a case of me mixing up in my head a game cutscene with the OoT manga. The manga shows Link taking a direct slash from Beast Form Ganon and he does not get cut, but just gets knocked back and he gets back up promptly. I can post a scan but its up to you entirely whether you want to accept it for the debate or not. Anyway, in the game Link isn't shown directly getting slashed at but it does show his sword getting slashed out of his hands and he was not knocked back from that despite the force. Also each time you get hit in that battle Zelda lets out a gasp, nothing direct but all things considered there is little chance that Link got out of that battle without getting hit.
4. See above. But the point stands that if Link can stand even a slash from Ganon that can pretty much disintegrate stone, an impalement from Dante who is of much lesser strength than Ganon should not be a problem regardless of if an impalement produces more pressure than a slash. More pressure than Dante's own slash sure, but Ganon's? Doubt it. And if you no longer wish to adhere to the slash durability statement that's fine, but the moon explosion tanking still exists and it is still a far greater durability feat than having to withstand an impalement that has only shown to go through stone.
5. No, I said "sans Dante's swords breaking" meaning they won't.
6. Again, it's completely different but still logically on a much lesser scale. Once more I use the analogy that if you could withstand a grenade launcher hitting you, and be completely whole, with not even any burns to show for it, you wouldn't have to worry about someone trying to impale you with a sword. The force just wouldn't be enough.
7. Ok here's the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SZiNSM8-E
8. Again remember as I said, whenever Dante takes damage that actually hurts him, his stamina suffers. And when his stamina suffers so does his regeneration. As the battle wears on Dante's ability to recover from blows will slow immensely until eventually he can do so no longer. We already saw a demonstration of his limits with the two stabs one from Yamato and the next from Rebellion. He fainted afterward and could have been killed if Vergil came back and finished the job.
Originally posted by Gumachi
#8. He fainted because he gained his Devil Trigger. Soon as Yamato was taken out he was healed and he was only hurt by 3-4? things.
No. This bull is no good. When Dante fainted he was lying in a pool of his own blood and that pool was getting bigger, which was caused by Yamato and Rebellion. (BTW now you admit that he did faint? In other thread you didn't want to admit that he was out. lol) He did not 'faint' because he just got his devil trigger, hell his devil trigger was the only thing that kept him upright any longer than he could do so under his own will.
The scene blacked out while he fainted and he did not come to for a while.
He did faint afterward the impalements didn't he? Seeing as they came BEFORE the fainting. I have mentioned in the past that he fainted right after the glimpse of the devil trigger but that was NOT what knocked him out. His devil trigger activated because he was near death, it gave him just enough juice to stay upright and alive (because his DT heals him ...you should know this), and then he fell unconscious from the damage was too much to process and heal immediately.
Lol @ you saying his devil trigger is what knocked him out, ignoring the pool of blood he was laying in as if they weren't the cause.
I know. He was still hurt and breathing a tad heavy as he was pulling it out and a few seconds afterward. And he didn't get impaled by the Yamato before hand did he? Which is much more powerful than Rebellion.
Ummm he got BACK UP because Devil Trigger kicked in because he was in crucial condition. It saved him, and allowed him to recover some. But he promptly fainted afterward because the damage was still too much to handel immediately. The devil trigger didn't CAUSE his fainting as evident from the pool of blood he was laying in. lol.
You said he fainted because his DT is what caused him to faint. Nah.
Anyway your stupidity really amuses me man. You post stuff that debunks your own arguments, that's how idiotic you have demonstrated yourself to be.
Nero: "I see a devil inside you has awakened as well."
Confirming that just then it was Dante's DT kicking in that revived him. Not that we needed much more confirmation seeing as we even see the Rebellion transforming.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
You said he fainted because his DT is what caused him to faint. Nah.Anyway your stupidity really amuses me man. You post stuff that debunks your own arguments, that's how idiotic you have demonstrated yourself to be.
Nero: "I see a devil inside you has awakened as well."
Confirming that just then it was Dante's DT kicking in that revived him. Not that we needed much more confirmation seeing as we even see the Rebellion transforming.