2 canon reactions that are at faults with so many things to say their speed.
Edit: Or can just give him Alastor and be done with the lightning nonsense.
@BT: It'd be the same way Pokemon's stat modifiers are canon for them.
Well Lucifer, from the SMT realm. In disguise hires Dante to kill demons, but goes to the good said later on.
This one is the weakest of his 4 strength enhancements. For an idea that'd be a minimum of 5x stronger. And as he only needed to be 2x stronger here.. ka-boom 'n all.
Originally posted by BloodRain
2 canon reactions that are at faults with so many things to say their speed.Edit: Or can just give him Alastor and be done with the lightning nonsense.
@BT: It'd be the same way Pokemon's stat modifiers are canon for them.
Well Lucifer, from the SMT realm. In disguise hires Dante to kill demons, but goes to the good said later on.
This one is the weakest of his 4 strength enhancements. For an idea that'd be a minimum of 5x stronger. And as he only needed to be 2x stronger here.. ka-boom 'n all.
...Based on Trig work which was proven faulty ages ago due to OoT's skewed perspective system making Link's throw exponentially slower than it actually is. Link is much more than twice as strong as Dante.
And with his reaction time, will win with his fists.
I cannot find a "I am tired of this denile and spam rubbish" dog 🙁
Oh well, as said 1000 times and as proven, theres nothing to suggest Link can react to anything more than perhaps an arrow, or nothing more than another person that is.
Dante speed blitzes.
Originally posted by BloodRain@BT: It'd be the same way Pokemon's stat modifiers are canon for them.
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Hm, I was not aware a percentage modifier or in-game calculation was taken as Canon, if its true then Dante with 50% extra strength, plus his speed may be interesting.
For example in Diablo, character stats are increased by a %, their equipment also adds certain percentages as do their skills, even if in canon they could simply be the gameplay representation of a Barbarian yelling orders.....but if this is canon, maybe some more Diablo threads are in order if percentages are allowed.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Neg, canon instances of lightning smiting are there, therefore he can. 😐...Based on Trig work which was proven faulty ages ago due to OoT's skewed perspective system making Link's throw exponentially slower than it actually is. Link is much more than twice as strong as Dante.
And with his reaction time, will win with his fists.
No, theres reacting in OoT and TP. Thats all.
Trig says that 200 is impossible. Actually ive found clips with a better view that gives 30 again. And again theres the footsteps or the time it takes that both give 20-30 and ive still put it up to 40m/s. Nothing has given 200m 😐 so until proven, its wrong.
Annnd even with your 100m/s he'd be 6-11x stronger, so even if you find a way to prove its 200m it still wouldnt be enough to cover Dante's enhancements.
[Google Maps your place and measure how far 30 and 200m is, can see that it cant be that high]
Originally posted by Burning thought
Hm, I was not aware a percentage modifier or in-game calculation was taken as Canon, if its true then Dante with 50% extra strength, plus his speed may be interesting.For example in Diablo, character stats are increased by a %, their equipment also adds certain percentages as do their skills, even if in canon they could simply be the gameplay representation of a Barbarian yelling orders.....but if this is canon, maybe some more Diablo threads are in order if percentages are allowed.
For speed in order of increase there's; Beowulf, Quick Heart and DT. Two at that speed with Doppelgänger or we can jump on Alastor's lightning speed~
For strength in order of increase there's; Son's Oath, Offence Heart, Gilgamesh and DT. (Gilga can be higher at times.)
No, theres reacting in OoT and TP. Thats all.Trig says that 200 is impossible. Actually ive found clips with a better view that gives 30 again. And again theres the footsteps or the time it takes that both give 20-30 and ive still put it up to 40m/s. Nothing has given 200m so until proven, its wrong.
Annnd even with your 100m/s he'd be 6-11x stronger, so even if you find a way to prove its 200m it still wouldnt be enough to cover Dante's enhancements.
[Google Maps your place and measure how far 30 and 200m is, can see that it cant be that high]
I'm not unfamiliar with the distances, I've played OoT many times as well as done enough track in highschool to know yes, 200 m is fairly long, but fairly close to what the throw in OoT shows. Also, Link's got some abnormal stride length in OoT. Legit.
Anyway: My numbers would put Link at 4.5 GJ strength, Dante would need some crazy exponential stacking for him to approach that unless you have numbers I haven't seen.
This still doesn't cover the fact that Link is strong enough to do significant damage to Dante with either of our calcs and Link has reacted to lightning, allowing him to continuously maul Dante until he's pulp. 😬
Canon reactions of lightning timing that can be proven to be rl speeds that isnt only from the mouth of a few fans. Eg Link canonly reacting to Ag... wizard guys attack.
Nothing yet explains how it can be near that number unless Link has a 5m stride. Gonna need some kind of proof as 3 methods and sight say its my number.
435-700 MJ when its not 200m to Dante's 425 MJ. By this base Dante is on near equal terms. And power ups would destroy Link.
For examples sake, 4.5 GJ. Thats 10x stronger then Dante. After Son's Oath, 6.7x. Offence Heart (same increase as Quick Heart that makes him twice as fast), 3.3x... ya know what, Ill leave it there because Gilgamesh and Devil Trigger, the two strongest of his four strength assets, will only need to make him 1.8x stronger each to match...
Your number, Dante is a few times stronger. My number, no contest. Thats strength covered.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Canon reactions of lightning timing that can be proven to be rl speeds that isnt only from the mouth of a few fans. Eg Link canonly reacting to Ag... wizard guys attack.Nothing yet explains how it can be near that number unless Link has a 5m stride. Gonna need some kind of proof as 3 methods and sight say its my number.
435-700 MJ when its not 200m to Dante's 425 MJ. By this base Dante is on near equal terms. And power ups would destroy Link.
For examples sake, 4.5 GJ. Thats 10x stronger then Dante. After Son's Oath, 6.7x. Offence Heart (same increase as Quick Heart that makes him twice as fast), 3.3x... ya know what, Ill leave it there because Gilgamesh and Devil Trigger, the two strongest of his four strength assets, will only need to make him 1.8x stronger each to match...Your number, Dante is a few times stronger. My number, no contest. Thats strength covered.
After Son's Oath, 6.7x. Offence Heart (same increase as Quick Heart that makes him twice as fast), 3.3x... ya know what, Ill leave it there because Gilgamesh and Devil Trigger, the two strongest of his four strength assets, will only need to make him 1.8x stronger each to match...
I maintain my stance Link is stronger, but as I keep saying, it doesn't matter, anyway. 😐 Not only has Dante never recieved a blow from a character as physicly powerful as Link, Link's able to reflect lightning consistently, he can and will maul Dante, even if it takes a hundred hits. (It won't, until I see a durability feat outside Link's own strength range I'm assuming Link punches his head off. 131)
Art has issues, been mentioned already. So in your opinion simply facing an opponent that uses lightning like attacks makes you a lightning timer?
3000 tons, 2.5m in 0.2 secs for single arm, twice that for both.
2721554.22*156/2= 212281229*2= 424562458 J.
Son's Oath increases with a spell. Gilgamesh is a weapon with a fixed power increase. DT is a natural thing. Offence Hearts strengthens DT. They all individually increase his strength and can be used together so yeah, stacking.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Son's Oath increases with a spell. Gilgamesh is a weapon with a fixed power increase. DT is a natural thing. Offence Hearts strengthens DT. They all individually increase his strength and can be used together so yeah, stacking.
Cannot speak for Son's Oath, but yes, Gilgamesh and DT stack.
If you take the Distortion glitch into account...313
Originally posted by BloodRain
@DP: Didnt mean the whole weight, only the weight that was on him.
From contact to hold only Dante's left hand is making contact with the fist. The right is holding the sword as is between the fingers and just like the point of the sword it isnt actually touching the fist, can even see it waver with the left hand as the centre. More importantly he only throws it with his left arm.
You should word it better next time then. 😛
And I agree that he tosses it mainly with his left arm (as the Saviour's arm also moves towards Dante's right), but he uses his body as well, which is why the whole "you should word it better next time" bit.