Sephiroth vs Link

Read everything I type again because I answered about have of your questions already in my original post and you butchered and misunderstood a lot of it. Is english your second language? if so I'll be slower mate. Honestly I'm done with you until you study and learn things for yourself. This isn't that I'm giving up on the over all debate or conversation, it's just at this point in time you're a waste of time.

I won't sit here going in circles with you about things that are common sense. Stop being a fan boy mate. When you're ready to actually debate, use your brain, facts, quotes and not this fan fiction bull shit, then dude I'm all down for this. But until then....it's like...I'm Sheik In Melee and you're a below scrub Mewtwo main. Peace for now though <3 *stretch*

edit: OH it is Canon Link. Everything I've been using and saying are actual Canon, 100% full proof, legit and real Link. Link using spells, like with out Items? YEAH, its called, PLay the other freaking games. He actually has magical abilities to cast spells with out using items. If I was going to restrict this to a specific TITLE (not a Link, who are all Canon. Since they're all Link) but a title, I'd personally pick Legend of Zelda 2: Adventure of Link. But others in here will want different.

besides the thread owner, didn't rerstrict Link to a title. he's just Link. LINK IS LINK. LINK is canon by all means of every game he's ever appeared in title wise.
Legend of Zelda
Legend of Zelda 2: adventure of Link
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the past
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

omg and so much more. So please stfu and learn about what canon means and that Link is Link by canon rule of everything I stated of his abilities thus far. Peace out kiddo for now, until you spark my brain to see you as interesting to debate with and a challenge.

Originally posted by Voyeur
okay :3

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The rest are feats from FF7, displayed by Jenova, stated by the RF, UOG, etc.

And all the many other times you refer to Sephiroth and Advent Children that I don't feel like siphoning through the bull shit in the earlier posts and quoting you out each time, but there are more with a quick skim. Once again, I'll state it, even if it is part of the things, even if if is clearly related, it is an animated film. Not a video game. Game versus. Meaning the character must originate from a video game, which Sephiroth does, and the character must stick to what they're capable of in their video game, which you're trying hard to break. Keep it strictly to the game content and no more Advent Children stuff, such as the control of NL or etc etc because it's been debunked by me again. And I'll debunk you again. It's okay to admit when you're wrong, its a humble character trait to have and you should learn it <3

Also you once again are complaining about the type of rock the slab was, which I'll point...AGAIN, doesn't matter. It's the density, volume and height of such condensed matter with in that column, even if it was any kind of granite or rock, that matters. It's heavy, Link tossed it effortlessly.

And before you go quoting, bitching and complaing about how Screampaste or Xanatos on their stupidity in reporting you, I ask that you thoroughly read what I type now and my post above because I want you to know and be sure that I'm ****ing separate from them and I got my own intelligent ways of being able to knock down anything you throw at me. Now, the facts our out on the table and so far Sephiroth has the teleporation on his side but Link has extremely great reflexes and is a defensive fighter, along with his spells and abilities that both counter Sephiroths but I don't see Seph being able to avoid what I stated.

So take your time, read through everything. Bone up and get smart before jumping in with flaming and rants because you know this thread is just going to get closed any way.

edit: excuse the double post please. [/B]

Terry, check your PMs.

*yawn* none of my claims have been debunked.

:]

You simply just aren't smart enough to see when I've already won mate. You see, the tip of the whip and at one point even the whip itself is traveling at the speed of sound, and faster then it to break the sound barrier. Hence the sonic boom. Here you go again,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_barrier
See those attacks are dodged by Link. Now if a human with a bull whip can break the sound barrier with their own strength, you don't think a God entity like Majora can not? ...come no...common sense <3

And like half of his abilities you related to Sephiroth having are from AC and I understand it plays a part in the time line. I stated that before it relates to it but you gotta play by the rules and stick to what the game gives you my dear.

I said he used them, and he did use the gauntlets, its stated in the respect thread. The gauntlets are canon. Thank you

any way, I actually am going to go train and condition my Sheik game at the moment cos' I'm pretty rusty. ... ;3 alright got DACUS off first try, not to rusty.

I know my Final Fantasy 7 bs because of an old friend, but do you know all your well endowed Link Lore? come on, any way. You're kind of boring because....you repeat yourself and haven't intelligently opposed any thing against me. You did almost seem like you'd be smart and have some real back bone at first but now...nah...you resorted to fan boyism like fascist and calling us socks and lame shit which have nothing to do with the deabte.

Peace out for now, kek.

So.. once Link wins this, does that mean he officiall is > the FF7 universe and we can move onto bringing another underrated character into the spot light? =P

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So.. once Link wins this, does that mean he officiall is > the FF7 universe and we can move onto bringing another underrated character into the spot light? =P

how about Sheik vs Link, and the easy undeniable way to win is

GIMP his recovery hahaha

Originally posted by Voyeur
Read everything I type again because I answered about have of your questions already in my original post and you butchered and misunderstood a lot of it. Is english your second language? if so I'll be slower mate. Honestly I'm done with you until you study and learn things for yourself. This isn't that I'm giving up on the over all debate or conversation, it's just at this point in time you're a waste of time.

I won't sit here going in circles with you about things that are common sense. Stop being a fan boy mate. When you're ready to actually debate, use your brain, facts, quotes and not this fan fiction bull shit, then dude I'm all down for this. But until then....it's like...I'm Sheik In Melee and you're a below scrub Mewtwo main. Peace for now though <3 *stretch*

Fanfiction is you stating:

"zomg Link can like 10000 tons because he lifted something that i want to be black granite with the gauntlets!!" or "!! Link can instant teleport antywhere!! (when clearly he cannot) or "Link dodges the speed of sound!! (ridiculous)."

NONE of those you have legitemate proof for, they are just your claims trying to amp Link up.

edit: OH it is Canon Link. Everything I've been using and saying are actual Canon, 100% full proof, legit and real Link. Link using spells, like with out Items? YEAH, its called, PLay the other freaking games. He actually has magical abilities to cast spells with out using items. If I was going to restrict this to a specific TITLE (not a Link, who are all Canon. Since they're all Link) but a title, I'd personally pick Legend of Zelda 2: Adventure of Link. But others in here will want different.

besides the thread owner, didn't rerstrict Link to a title. he's just Link. LINK IS LINK. LINK is canon by all means of every game he's ever appeared in title wise.
Legend of Zelda
Legend of Zelda 2: adventure of Link
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the past
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

The Link you're making up, is an AMALGAM Link, meaning a Link that doesn't really exist, having every single power from every game which he has NEVER had before.

Canon games? Sure. Canon Links? Sure. Canon Link? No. That Link never existed.

Originally posted by Voyeur
You simply just aren't smart enough to see when I've already won mate. You see, the tip of the whip and at one point even the whip itself is traveling at the speed of sound, and faster then it to break the sound barrier. Hence the sonic boom. Here you go again,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_barrier
See those attacks are dodged by Link. Now if a human with a bull whip can break the sound barrier with their own strength, you don't think a God entity like Majora can not? ...come no...common sense <3

Ok, let me break it down for you so maybe you can understand.

You're claiming that the whip travels at the speed of sound because it breaks the sound barrier correct? Now, what makes it break the sound barrier? The entire whip moving? Or the very end of the whip snapping back? Right, it's the very end of the whip snapping back, as long as you move out of the radius of the end of the whip, you're safe from harm. You're not literally "dodging the speed of sound" HAHA.

For example with small mightymite firecracker explosion. Say the explosion output travels at the speed of sound. If someone lit a mightymite firecracker and threw it out you. You move out of the way, and it explodes not harming you, did you dodge the speed of sound? No. you simply moved out of the "area of effect"

The entire whip itself doesn't move at the speed of sound, simply the very end that snap back does, moving out of the "area of effect" before the whip snaps back doesn't mean you're dodging sound speed.

And like half of his abilities you related to Sephiroth having are from AC and I understand it plays a part in the time line. I stated that before it relates to it but you gotta play by the rules and stick to what the game gives you my dear.

I know my Final Fantasy 7 bs because of an old friend, but do you know all your well endowed Link Lore? come on, any way. You're kind of boring because....you repeat yourself and haven't intelligently opposed any thing against me. You did almost seem like you'd be smart and have some real back bone at first but now...nah...you resorted to fan boyism like fascist and calling us socks and lame shit which have nothing to do with the deabte.

The compilation of FF7 is big, 2 movies, 5 games, a few guides with information from the creators.

You're talking nonsense rubbish right now, is this what you do when you're frustrated and losing a debate? Seriously, stick to the topic and stop crying.

It's true that those accounts have coincidently signed up, in a very short time span, and coincidently post right after eachother as if you're logging in and out of each account under a different proxy. What's funny is that since i've brought it up earlier, now all of a sudden the time span between posts have widened as if you took my advice.

You can't blame me for being suspicious.

But back to the point, Sephiroth wins, willpower him still, or Negative Lifestream for the kill, or speedblitz for the kill (no Link cannot dodge the speed of sound, don't start that rubbish).

And what can Link do? Nothing basically. Characters in FF7 dodge bullets like nothing at all, take Zack for example. He was infused with some Jenova cells, those Jenova cells made him into superhuman who can dodge multiple machine guns, all similtaniously firing at him. He dodges them all like nothing. He gained that power just by being infused with Jenova cells. Sephiroth is the Jenova entity itself.

Whoa, whoa whoa, they're trying to claim that Link dodging a whip means he's faster than Mach 1? LOL!

Perhaps the puppets on ignore can learn something today. The whip does not move the speed of sound. The very tip of a whip very briefly breaks it by snapping back, but this in only the little tip of the whip and it only achieves this sped for a fraction of a second. Rolling out of a whip's way is not breaking the sound barrier, that's even more ridiculous than claiming Link can lift 1,000 tons. 😆

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Whoa, whoa whoa, they're trying to claim that Link dodging a whip means he's faster than Mach 1? LOL!

Perhaps the puppets on ignore can learn something today. The whip does not move the speed of sound. The very tip of a whip very briefly breaks it by snapping back, but this in only the little tip of the whip and it only achieves this sped for a fraction of a second. Rolling out of a whip's way is not breaking the sound barrier, that's even more ridiculous than claiming Link can lift 1,000 tons. 😆

And I have a quote here from my official Nintendo Player Guide. (not licensed by, but official)
"Gold Gauntlets, which only lift giant granite pillars." -ONPG

I hope that helps clear up and put an end to useless bickering of the strength feat proven many times over of what Link throws. As in Rock, As in volume, height, mass, and so on. I'm sorry, but with those items Link is very strong, 1000+ tons.

Please. "LOL"ing and childish mocking will accomplish nothing for you and it makes this debate stuff really boring and easy. I do this for the "kek" but I have yet to find one person able to challenge and stimulate me with opposing intelligent facts or quotes.

I beg and urge for you please to study and read things carefully, increase your brain capacity and knowledge and then continue these sort of arguments. Until then I find this very dull.

And mate, I simply just grow bored of your bull shit that you can't smell or see because you're in it for to long. It isn't a matter of me ever being debunked, which I have accepted in other threads, but you can't be able to do with Sephiroth.

Hell, I don't even like Link. I ****ing LOVE Sheik though.

EDIT: I know you're going to ***** about the official guide quote so when I have time I'll try to get scans.

Dude, in that wikipedia page it says the TIP is what breaks the sound barrier, keyword: TIP. Obviously anyone knows the entire whip doesn't travel at the speed of sound or else the entire whip would be extremely hard to see, only the tip when it lashes is hard to see.

Once again, move out of the Area of Effect (which is the tip of the whip) and you're safe. Does it mean you just dodged the speed of sound? No.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Dude, in that wikipedia page it says the TIP is what breaks the sound barrier, keyword: TIP. Obviously anyone knows the entire whip doesn't travel at the speed of sound or else the entire whip would be extremely hard to see, only the tip when it lashes is hard to see.

Once again, move out of the Area of Effect (which is the tip of the whip) and you're safe. Does it mean you just dodged the speed of sound? No.

simple physics are simple.

*rolls eyes*

what don't you get that the whip, as a whole, the actual body of it would at one point have to be going at the speed of sound or more because it is the built up momentum and velocity with inertia continuing and the end result being the tip of the whip where it will be released as it's full limit, since the item (the whip, Majora's whips) ends at the tip.

Start ----> building up speed and momentum ----> faster ----> speed of sound ----> faster ---> Tip * sonic boom * (Link-dodge)

haha lame chart but yeah, I mean there you have it.

Even if you guys had extensive knowledge of anythings in the academic sense, there is a HUGE lack luster of common sense on here and that is like, highly needed to understand simple things.

In example (i.e.) A jet doesn't start off at sonic speed. It must build up velocity and momentum to reach it, and break the sound barrier. So the whip has to do the same.

The tip is the section at the end, used to attack. Link had to dodge said tip, lol. TADAAAH.

And Link can lift 1000+ tons easily, as he can throw that amount, lol. Furthermore, that math was EXTREMELY conservative.

Silly fanboys in denial of Link's feats D: We have proofz (h)

Also, if the original nintendo guide has the word granite in it, I think that kinda wins the argument for us.

Umm no you don't have proof.. nor are you in a position to call anyone a fanboy with that imagination of yours.

Start ----> building up speed and momentum ----> faster ----> speed of sound ----> faster ---> Tip * sonic boom * (Link-dodge)

Link has all that time to move out of the area of effect. Does it mean he just dodged the speed of sound? No.

Only the tip reaches speed of sound and sonic boom.

Quit trying to up-play Link more then he actually is

You fail to down play Link.. Lemme explain this so you can understand.

The entire weaopn is in motion simultaneously, the longer the weapon is the faster it's tip moves because it has a much greater span of distance to cover in the same amount of time. You have debunked nothing, simply been in denial.

Motion simultaneously?? Buddy, the entire whip sets up momentum for the TIP of it, the TIP is what makes the crack sonic boom noise, not the entire whip itself. Link has all that time (where i bolded) to move out of the tips area of effect.

You're blinded by your fanboyism to see perfectly sound logic.

from the instant the handle is manipulated the tip enters motion. TADAH.
there's no time spent building up energy at all, user of the whip simple maniuplates the handle so that the tip goes where he wants it. No real person ever dodges a whip, they're missed.
You hate seeing Seph lose.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Umm no you don't have proof.. nor are you in a position to call anyone a fanboy with that imagination of yours.

[b]Start ----> building up speed and momentum ----> faster ----> speed of sound ----> faster ---> Tip * sonic boom * (Link-dodge)

Link has all that time to move out of the area of effect. Does it mean he just dodged the speed of sound? No.

Only the tip reaches speed of sound and sonic boom.

Quit trying to up-play Link more then he actually is [/B]

Even by allowing your argument that Link only needs to avoid the AoE of the whip's crack, do you think dodging whips is a simple task? Sure, it may not be the most practical weapon, but that doesn't make any less dangerous.

Tell you what, why don't you try and find footage of someone attempting to dodge a whip, and if they make it seem very easy, then I'll at least concede this point.

Terry, check your PMs, please.

from the instant the handle is manipulated the tip enters motion. TADAH.
there's no time spent building up energy at all, user of the whip simple maniuplates the handle so that the tip goes where he wants it. No real person ever dodges a whip, they're missed.
You hate seeing Seph lose.

Sephiroth loses how? What can Link even do to him?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Even by allowing your argument that Link only needs to avoid the AoE of the whip's crack, do you think dodging whips is a simple task? Sure, it may not be the most practical weapon, but that doesn't make any less dangerous.

Tell you what, why don't you try and find footage of someone attempting to dodge a whip, and if they make it seem very easy, then I'll at least concede this point.

It sure as hell isn't as hard as "dodging the speed of sound"

It's not easy finding that kind of video, because ppl dont randomly dodge a whip then post a video of it. Just like its hard to find a video of someone dodging a boomerang thrown at them.

Terry, check your PMs, please.