Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
True that Vader <> Cilghal, however I'm just disproving Nai's comment about the mind trick working on all except for force sensitives and certain species.
As I already posted on here, mind tricks do work on other force users , as jacen solo pulls one on Ganner in Traitor. Then there is the whole memory rub he uses on Ben which is sort of like a mindrick. It's common but there are some instances.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Either way, the leaders won't allow communications.
Right, because you say so? if they have knowledge of the sw movies like you say then they will know the rule that mind tricks are suppose to work on the weak minded, but they wouldn't know that there are exceptions to the rule so who is to say that wont come into play. Plus who is to say that a world leader would not have peace talks with some imperial officer then BAM off all sudden Vader appears on screen on and mind rapes him/her.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Right, because you say so? if they have knowledge of the sw movies like you say then they will know the rule that mind tricks are suppose to work on the weak minded, but they wouldn't know that there are exceptions to the rule so who is to say that wont come into play. Plus who is to say that a world leader would not have peace talks with some imperial officer then BAM off all sudden Vader appears on screen on and mind rapes him/her.
Yes, they do have total and complete knowledge of the Empire (I changed this before to them not having complete knowledge, but since you guys no offense but seem to ignore it and still complain about it I'd assume that you don't want it).
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Yes, they do have total and complete knowledge of the Empire (I changed this before to them not having complete knowledge, but since you guys no offense but seem to ignore it and still complain about it I'd assume that you don't want it).
Way to dodge my point. Having knowledge of the Empire has nothing to with the force. So whether they know all about the empire or not, it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Way to dodge my point.
You do see the irony, do you?
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Having knowledge of the Empire has nothing to with the force. So whether they know all about the empire or not, it doesn't matter.
Even if Vader's mind trick would work, the leaders simply won't allow any form of communications w/Vader.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
You do see the irony, do you?
Don't care
Even if Vader's mind trick would work, the leaders simply won't allow any form of communications w/Vader
They will have to have some form of communication with the empire, we aren't barbarians who will simply try to kill them.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Plus who is to say that a world leader would not have peace talks with some imperial officer then BAM all of a sudden Vader appears on screen on and mind rapes him/her.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Don't careThey will have to have some form of communication with the empire, we aren't barbarians who will simply try to kill them.
Deception ftw!
Double standards? Is that fair?
No offense, but I doubt that the leaders would fall for a tactic that you probably devised in a few seconds at 9:00 pm in front of a computer.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Double standards? Is that fair?No offense, but I doubt that the leaders would fall for a tactic that you probably devised in a few seconds at 9:00 pm in front of a computer.
Right, then how in the world do you expect the two f***ing sides to communicate? I can see why Lucien got frustrated with you.
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Right, then how in the world do you expect the two f***ing sides to communicate? I can see why Lucien got frustrated with you.
Actually Lucien isn't frustrated with me, he's just a bully that probably likes it when I "mess up".
And they won't; Earth won't be stupid enough to communicate when they know that Vader could just choke them/mind trick them.
And if Vader really does win so easily without a single battle, then this IS a spite...in the other direction.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallWell, you're right, but so is Elite.
Actually Lucien isn't frustrated with me, he's just a bully that probably likes it when I "mess up".
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallYou don't always need to speak to someone to communicate with them. A flag, Morse code, digital telecommunication. Plus, you really think what goes through Vader's mind is "Voice! *chokes*"
And they won't; Earth won't be stupid enough to communicate when they know that Vader could just choke them/mind trick them.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallVader winning his battle =/= winning the war.
And if Vader really does win so easily without a single battle, then this IS a spite...in the other direction.
@Mr. Andersen
How are humans there?
How do they have a smiliar social structure?
Maybe some catastrophic disaster wiped out everyone except for a few humans, who used the last still intact spaceship to fly over here to Earth...
@Lucien
Well as far as we know Vader can only do mind tricks via voice not via text messages or emails.
And if you actually take pleasure in my "stupidity", then how come you said before that I'm annoying and that I'm "too dense" and such?
And if Vader wins his battle, then he just mind tricks the leaders into joining him.