silver surfer (Exiles 87) vs superman, thor, hulk, gladiator

Started by Kris Blaze10 pages
Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Nihilist
not all sky fathers are strong against telepathy.

she blinked out of existance 64,000 people in a isntant,ko'd thanos with one blast something tyrant and odin couldnt do.As well gladiator and starlord stated that she could easily reverse the crunch energy's and destroy everthing.The beyonder is easily cosmic lvl all maker was i mortal form just like other skyfathers.

A whole 64 thousand? Not something a regular herald could do.

It can't be mortal form "just like other skyfathers" since Thanos did essentially less damage to Fallen one then to the Maker. I know that she ko-d Thanos is a single explosion, but that's more PIS than anything. There's no logic behind it.

And if you beat a supposed "skyfather" by using their ridiculous weakness, they're you're not as strong as them. It's like Radioactive man defeating Superman. He's on the same level as Superman, and can't compete against characters of that level, but he does well against Superman because he can attack via kryptonite.

You can't claim that the Maker had an equal offense as the beyonder, since if that was the case then she would've easily killed Thanos. The Beyonder's power level either fluctuated, or she didn't want to fight the second time.

Makky Restricted

Originally posted by Nihilist
not all sky fathers are strong against telepathy.

she blinked out of existance 64,000 people in a isntant,ko'd thanos with one blast something tyrant and odin couldnt do.As well gladiator and starlord stated that she could easily reverse the crunch energy's and destroy everthing.The beyonder is easily cosmic lvl all maker was i mortal form just like other skyfathers.

She let him win though, it was a really legitimate win she had had already known what would happen.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Makky
She let him win though, it was a really legitimate win she had had already known what would happen.
ROFL, she let him win, that's why she blasted him before then traded blow's with him.Do you have proof she just let him win or are you lying as per normal.

Makky Restricted
Originally posted by Nihilist
ROFL, she let him win, that's why she blasted him before then traded blow's with him.Do you have proof she just let him win or are you lying as per normal.

Right so he legtimatly beat her....................

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
A whole 64 thousand? Not something a regular herald could do.
what other herald's HAVE done that.

It can't be mortal form "just like other skyfathers" since Thanos did essentially less damage to Fallen one then to the Maker. I know that she ko-d Thanos is a single explosion, but that's more PIS than anything. There's no logic behind it.
Thanos did'nt even hit fallen one with his own enrgy blasts, all he did was block with with a energy field and TK some asteroid'd at him,he hit the maker with a good 3 blows and a mind zap.

And if you beat a supposed "skyfather" by using their ridiculous weakness, they're you're not as strong as them. It's like Radioactive man defeating Superman. He's on the same level as Superman, and can't compete against characters of that level, but he does well against Superman because he can attack via kryptonite.
because the maker was suseptable to mind attacks doesnt mean they are weak,everbody has some kind of weakness and Thanos is strong in that department.

You can't claim that the Maker had an equal offense as the beyonder, since if that was the case then she would've easily killed Thanos. The Beyonder's power level either fluctuated, or she didn't want to fight the second time. [/B]
you can clearly see the Maker is up for a fight in the second meeting by her stance and actions/words, because she didnt easily kill Thanos does'nt mean she took it easy plenty of people have beaten guy's that are above thier grade.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by Makky
Right so he legtimatly beat her....................
are you gonna actualy prove what you said or not?

They traded blow's, his over powered her's, then he shut her mind down.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

This is bullshit. I'm so sick of people using Maker to claim Thanos is skyfather.

The Maker was bat shit crazy and had almost no control over her abilities. Thanos beat her by breaking her already damaged mind via TP. And he specifically warned the prisoners not to repair her mind and keep the body alive.

Why? BECAUSE HE KNEW IF THE BODY DIED, SHE'D BE BACK TO FULL POWER AND NUKE THE SHIT OUT OF HIM.

She was completely out of it and nowhere near skyfather or her true levels of power.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This is bullshit. I'm so sick of people using Maker to claim Thanos is skyfather.

The Maker was bat shit crazy and had almost no control over her abilities. Thanos beat her by breaking her already damaged mind via TP. And he specifically warned the prisoners not to repair her mind and keep the body alive.

Why? BECAUSE HE KNEW IF THE BODY DIED, SHE'D BE BACK TO FULL POWER AND NUKE THE SHIT OUT OF HIM.

She was completely out of it and nowhere near skyfather or her true levels of power.

And im sick of you calling bs on everthing you dont agree with, that favour's someone esle's point of view, so cry me a river.

It was stasted her madness had nearly past early in the book,when she was brought in by Gladiator she was a jibbering wreck, yet when she confront's and battle's Thanos you can clearly see she is no jibbering wreck.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

I call BS on obvious fanboyism and marvel wanking, so sit down and shut up, son. 😒

She was still a wreck. If she had even half or a quarter of her power, Thanos would have been doomed. The danger was her remembering what she was and her real power. She was dangerously close to putting it together, but she did not show what she was capable of at all.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I call BS on obvious fanboyism and marvel wanking, so sit down and shut up, son. 😒

She was still a wreck. If she had even half or a quarter of her power, Thanos would have been doomed. The danger was her remembering what she was and her real power. She was dangerously close to putting it together, but she did not show what she was capable of at all.

Son😂 and im already sat down, you're like 14 yrs old,and it's not as if your not inclined to fanboyism and DC wanking now is it.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No it's going the "Exiles Surfer beat some alternate versions and lost against the exiles"
Exiles Surfer wrecked everyone he faced until he met Sabretooh whom Galactus recently powered up.
Originally posted by Makky
He has more feats backing that up then current Thor oddly enough, but he we can't deny what Thor is sitting on right now.
Such as?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Even if it was Classic Thor, and not the current Odinforce one, this would still be an epic curbstomp of Exiles Surfer. 😬
Not at all. Surfer smokes this team. His board is powerful enough to easily slice Gladiator in two. These guys are toast.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Makky
I can't let that rulk incident go...I try but I just can't do it.
Rulk isn't a low showing. He also used the hammer for the victory. Thor redeemed himself the very next issue.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The maker had NOOOOOOO skyfather level feats, and she was incredibly weak to telepathy.
Maker laid out Thanos which is something that neither Tyrant or Odin managed to do. Just saying.
Originally posted by Nihilist
not all sky fathers are strong against telepathy.

she blinked out of existance 64,000 people in a isntant,ko'd thanos with one blast something tyrant and odin couldnt do.As well gladiator and starlord stated that she could easily reverse the crunch energy's and destroy everthing.The beyonder is easily cosmic lvl all maker was i mortal form just like other skyfathers.

👆

iceman24567 Senior Member

Team wins

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by iceman24567
Team wins
How?

Kris Blaze Restricted

Originally posted by Nihilist
And im sick of you calling bs on everthing you dont agree with, that favour's someone esle's point of view, so cry me a river.

It was stasted her madness had nearly past early in the book,when she was brought in by Gladiator she was a jibbering wreck, yet when she confront's and battle's Thanos you can clearly see she is no jibbering wreck.

Really, then clearly you missed the majority of the conversation :/

She was pretty docile when Oracle used her telepathy on her, then she grew angry when Thanos didn't give her the answers she wanted. She was still dumber than a loaf of bread, and one telepathic attack caused her to start bleeding.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Really, then clearly you missed the majority of the conversation :/

She was pretty docile when Oracle used her telepathy on her, then she grew angry when Thanos didn't give her the answers she wanted. She was still dumber than a loaf of bread, and one telepathic attack caused her to start bleeding.

She wasn't stupid she was just messed up mentally. The point is she was very, very powerful and I thought the writer did an excellent job of ramming home that point.

Makky Restricted
Originally posted by quanchi112
Exiles Surfer wrecked everyone he faced until he met Sabretooh whom Galactus recently powered up. Such as? Not at all. Surfer smokes this team. His board is powerful enough to easily slice Gladiator in two. These guys are toast.

Based on a featless alternative marvel universe,Thor alone would beat him...get off the crack son.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Naija boy
Knocked left and right b who? Too durable for energy blasts? What the hell are u talking about?. Man u surely are as ridiculous as they come. U move from claiming the planets were made of paper(lool) to make even more unfounded claims. Obviously if its current thor he cant win but if its not he has a very good chance. I have no idea what u mean b to durable for energ blasts, thats just ridiculous. Exiles surfer had very very powerful energy blasts(omnidirectional ones as well), that will do alot of damage to this team. Hulk in particular is likely to get oneshotted. Gladiator will get similar treatment to what his counter part got(assuming the were of comparable strength). Classic thor could also be susceptible to getting hurt immensely by the board as well. Superman catching surfers board and beating him with it has little to no chance of happening considering the speed that surfer will be moving his board at and that he can control his board with a thought. Infact, in the unlikely event of that happens it will just make him more open to blasts and such.

You know well I didn't mean the character's were made of paper. My point is that the durability of those could be less than their counterparts.

Prove that this Surfer has energy blasts that can affect someone of the likes of Superman, Gladiator, and Thor. All three can easily survive in the core of a star which can disintegrate a planet instantly. So prove that this Surfer can input much more power than the core of the Sun in a blast.

Its 4 against 1. Two have faster than light speed (Supes and Glads) and 1 have light speed attacks (Thor). There is no way in hell Surfer is going to stop all these characters at once. Thor alone will pop his arse with the hammer while Supes and Glads speedblitz him.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

surfer with his brake lines cut pwns most of this team hard.

thor is his only issue, the rest can be exploited with ease.

h1a8 Senior Member

brakes lines cut? I don't understand what you are saying.
Superman and Glads aren't just going to sit there and let Surfer exploit them. They all attack him fast and hard. He's toast easily.