Raziel vs Kratos

Originally posted by BloodRain
Could try and get that answer. He's 500m tall so.... will be back with a rough answer later.

Cool, its probably impossible to be exact. Perhaps try multiplying the average humans height and size of Cronos?

Then multiply strength in one arm and compare, I dont really know how we could get a more accurate figuire of how much PSI is spread through Kratos.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I don't see how allowing Raziel everything will change anything. 😬 Kratos will still roflstomp the poor boy.

It would mean an invisible, more agile and quick Raziel could take Kratos' soul or PSI willing ,slash him open or blind him through eye gouging.

One way or another, Raziel could technically gain a win even if its a cheap "Tk hold".

I don't believe Raziel has the strength to damage Kratos, there was debate whether 4.5 gigajoules on a sword would be enough in another thread. Raziel's setting on less than 200 kj.

Here's where I bring up two seperate points;
-Gotta damage someone to take their soul.
-Does Kratos not receive soul resistance in GoW3?

Raziel can definitely damage Kratos but Kratos is clearly stronger, more skilled, better weaponry and an all around bigger badass. Kratos owns him but let's not get crazy here and suggest Raziel can't pierce his skin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Raziel can definitely damage Kratos but Kratos is clearly stronger, more skilled, better weaponry and an all around bigger badass. Kratos owns him but let's not get crazy here and suggest Raziel can't pierce his skin.

Raziel can create 501 tonnes PSI per slash, it may be possible for Kratos to be pierced as the Titans strength in one arm at his speed may not equate to enough PSI, this would be divided as Raziels claw tip would be striking less surface area than the Titans hand did.

Thats not actually true, Raziels wraith sword has to past into them for him to take their soul. "damage" is not a gauge.

Kratos can resist Hades "type" of soul stealing but its vastly different to Raziels and more physical based.

Even if Raziel TK'd Kratos, Kratos has longer range, Raziel still couldn't get close while Kratos swings his blades.

Kratos would not be able to swing his blades, his blades are not too heavy to be Tked. Not to mension Kratos would not be in the best situation to be in, hovering in the air, possibly facing away from Raziel who using the Dark reaver form can go invisble. Raziel can have all the tactical cards in his deck, brain over brawn etc.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Raziel [b]can't. 😐 It truthfully is that simple. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what? Seriously, tell me why he cannot pierce his flesh i fhe's strong enough to rip out a heart with his bare hands? Who has Raziel failed to pierce with his sword as well?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Raziel failed to harm Dumah. 🙂 Kratos is far more durable than Dumah.

Dumahs durability is unknown and I dont recall the cutscene that claims he could not harm Dumah, I remember the game mechanic had you burinng him but I cannot recall him not actually being able to do it in canon.

Just remembered that I was meant to get the strength >.>
Hmm, am I finding the weight of his whole arm or only a little more then the hand as thats the only part on top of him? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQFpEJ25zRQ -7:05.

Edit: Got some numbers :/ only need to know if its the hand+ or the whole arm.

Not sure really, the hand I guess is the weight but the arm is part of the strength. Just multiply the size of an average male humans hand/arm so its size equels the titans. That will give you its weight, then I am not sure how we could measure how much strength Cronos could put into it.

Not entirely sure what it means but perhaps this may be useful?

http://www.springerlink.com/content/v314l346187352n7/

Edit: not sure what I did but ive found an old number i got for Cronos' bodyweight. Roughly around 3038651 tonnes. This is his average overall lifting strength if we go by the fact a human can on average lift its own bodyweight then perhaps we can work out the strength of the Titan in one arm.....assuming my figuire is correct.

Does Raziel even need to "cut through" his skin? I was always under impression that the soul reaver in his hands just phase through the body and rip the soul off.

It does, I am just trying to work out if thats even required. Kratos could just be blinded by flash of light, Tked and soul raped in other ways. His jelly eyeballs could be plucked from his sockets as well, Raziel could make this more interesting than simply a bloodlusted slash.

Originally posted by SamZED
Does Raziel even need to "cut through" his skin? I was always under impression that the soul reaver in his hands just phase through the body and rip the soul off.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Dumahs durability is unknown and I dont recall the cutscene that claims he could not harm Dumah, I remember the game mechanic had you burinng him but I cannot recall him not actually being able to do it in canon.

Good point but to suggest he can't pierce Kratos' flesh is just ridiculous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Good point but to suggest he can't pierce Kratos' flesh is just ridiculous.

Which game was it, 1?

This is still being gauged by me and Bloodrain via PMs, were trying to work out PSI, as it looks now I dont think anyone can penetrate Kratos with anyhing at their disposal, Raziel will have to rely on eyeball slashing and soul raping for a win.

Yes, Dumah is from Soul reaver 1.

I demand to see these numbers.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, it's not. You'd need to be a lot stronger than Raziel is to damage him at all.

Originally posted by Burning thought
This is still being gauged by me and Bloodrain via PMs, were trying to work out PSI, as it looks now I dont think anyone can penetrate Kratos with anyhing at their disposal, Raziel will have to rely on eyeball slashing and soul raping for a win.

Yes, Dumah is from Soul reaver 1.