Challenge to Debaters

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Damn I can't really offer scans 🙁

I post from work...so i can understand...its why i never participated 🙁

Can anybody tell those of us..who cant scan and post.....is it smart to rely upon the respect thread for scans?

Since i am only online from 630am -4pm NY time....would it be wise for me to even attempt to enter?

I am 38 years old...i have been game master for so many years(over 16) and i have collected comics since i was 8 years old...i think i could be very good...from what i have posted...what do the experienced tourny debators think would be wise?

Only 30 years of comic reading? pffft ... come back when you start taking it seriously!

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Originally posted by Digi
Actually, co-signed. Even removing the Marvel Family nonsense that got me into trouble, under that rule a person with Minion could un-controversially have Karate Kid's power set added to his already-considerable array, as well as anyone else they think of.

Well, in the tourney with no shifting rosters the thing isn't worth squat.

Two things:
1. "Soul assimilation" is big enough loophole (tried by Akuki and me in Delph's low meta tourney to avoid "no power copying from people on the battlefield rule, and then by Digi to avoid "no power copying" all together). That specific technique should be banned... can't see much harm in general telepathic knowledge transfer, though. It doesn't benefit to play "collector" without shifting roster, though.

2. Allow standart telepathic knowledge\skill transfer, but if played "round-robin", nullify all previously gained knowledge on the playoff stage.

Soul assimilation is wildly-abused loophole (OK, twice in two tourneys out of four) AND controversial compared to "normal" telepathic skill download. Ban knowledge transfer all together=nono.

Also, access to specific databases is banned, making another loopholish aspect of it pointless.
Banning soul assimilation, telepathic knowledge transfer is the only thing being useful, and it's not as much of "match decider" with no amalgam rule in place.

Originally posted by starlock
I post from work...so i can understand...its why i never participated 🙁

Can anybody tell those of us..who cant scan and post.....is it smart to rely upon the respect thread for scans?

Since i am only online from 630am -4pm NY time....would it be wise for me to even attempt to enter?

I am 38 years old...i have been game master for so many years(over 16) and i have collected comics since i was 8 years old...i think i could be very good...from what i have posted...what do the experienced tourny debators think would be wise?

YEah me to man. I only go on KMC while at work hah. And I can come on once in a hwile at home or over the weekends but mostly not.

🙁

Originally posted by starlock
I post from work...so i can understand...its why i never participated 🙁

Can anybody tell those of us..who cant scan and post.....is it smart to rely upon the respect thread for scans?

Since i am only online from 630am -4pm NY time....would it be wise for me to even attempt to enter?

I am 38 years old...i have been game master for so many years(over 16) and i have collected comics since i was 8 years old...i think i could be very good...from what i have posted...what do the experienced tourny debators think would be wise?

In most cases, yes. Many RTs give good description of characters.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
In most cases, yes. Many RTs give good description of characters.

And if you already have a good idea of the "feat" you are using as an argument, sometimes a decent description or issue number is enough (sometimes)

Make sure you guys secure at least 8-10+ judge prospects. That can be a real tourney killer.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Make sure you guys secure at least 8-10+ judge prospects. That can be a real tourney killer.

what do you have to do to qualify as a judge?

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'd get rid of that altogether, caused a hell of a lot of arguments last time around.

Absolutely nothing wrong with having each team facing each other without advantages that only become available through freakishly lucky match line ups.

Combined with the fact that the rosters aren't going to be changing, we're not gonna have repeats of super-Minion, Nimrod, Emma Frost, etc.

Originally posted by starlock
I post from work...so i can understand...its why i never participated 🙁

Can anybody tell those of us..who cant scan and post.....is it smart to rely upon the respect thread for scans?

Since i am only online from 630am -4pm NY time....would it be wise for me to even attempt to enter?

I am 38 years old...i have been game master for so many years(over 16) and i have collected comics since i was 8 years old...i think i could be very good...from what i have posted...what do the experienced tourny debators think would be wise?

imo, scans aren't necessary. people place way too much emphasis on them. star, just give issue numbers and describe the feats if you can't post scans...

Originally posted by starlock
I post from work...so i can understand...its why i never participated 🙁

Can anybody tell those of us..who cant scan and post.....is it smart to rely upon the respect thread for scans?

Since i am only online from 630am -4pm NY time....would it be wise for me to even attempt to enter?

I am 38 years old...i have been game master for so many years(over 16) and i have collected comics since i was 8 years old...i think i could be very good...from what i have posted...what do the experienced tourny debators think would be wise?

The only times I haven't been able to rely on them were when I was looking for really obscure characters, but there's a ton of well known ones to pick from, especially considering the low amount of drafts characters we're gonna have this time.

Also, what Paul said.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Well, in the tourney with no shifting rosters the thing isn't worth squat.

Two things:
1. "Soul assimilation" is big enough loophole (tried by Akuki and me in Delph's low meta tourney to avoid "no power copying from people on the battlefield rule, and then by Digi to avoid "no power copying" all together). That specific technique should be banned... can't see much harm in general telepathic knowledge transfer, though. It doesn't benefit to play "collector" without shifting roster, though.

2. Allow standart telepathic knowledge\skill transfer, but if played "round-robin", nullify all previously gained knowledge on the playoff stage.

Soul assimilation is wildly-abused loophole (OK, twice in two tourneys out of four) AND controversial compared to "normal" telepathic skill download. Ban knowledge transfer all together=nono.

Also, access to specific databases is banned, making another loopholish aspect of it pointless.
Banning soul assimilation, telepathic knowledge transfer is the only thing being useful, and it's not as much of "match decider" with no amalgam rule in place.

Too much reading. Commenting would imply more interest than I actually have. Do what you guys want. Put me down as a judge.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
Teams are fixed after teh drafts conclude, right? no reforming for specific matches this time?

(I hope)

Even still, anyone with photographic memory or some form of assimilation could rack up all kinds of useful skills against other teams as it goes along. But yeah, fixed teams kinda nips the problem in the bud, just not entirely.

crap.... oh well... is Nightcrawler open??? I like Kurt.

Originally posted by Nighty101
crap.... oh well... is Nightcrawler open??? I like Kurt.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

That list is a good guideline- everyone listed under High Meta or below has a shot at getting in to the tourney.

Hmm, sounds pretty cool.

I might be able to join, depending on when it starts etc...

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel

Addition- as for time manip, to what degree time freeze is allowed? Might be only allowed to imitate speed cap (i.e. slowing time down enough to make it appear to your opponent tha\t you move at Mach 10 as opposed at him).

That's a good question.

tempo has that specific power.

Willing to judge if needed.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
tempo has that specific power.

I know. In fact, can think about two or three characters in that. Total time halt ala Lakuna (Lakuna, Emma Frost and Karate Kid in team=insta-pwnage), but freezing your opponents in time is no different from say direct offensive use of matter manip.

That kills the creativity much faster than your normal memory assimilation. Propose- ban time manip and soul assimilation (loopholes, and huge ones at that), leave skill assimilation intact.

Otherwise whoever grabs "halters" (Tempo and Lacuna might be only ones within appearance quota, Ambrose Chase and Sway have too few appearances), gain unfair advantage here.

Another question, guys. How are you going to deal with objects\artefacts which are>tourney cap on their own but are standart equipment of several chars? Soranic Natu and Nico Minoru (GL ring and Staff of One) respectively spring to mind.

Natu is only High Meta? Yeesh...