Originally posted by Naija boy
Ok now this is just ridiculous. Bill was uninjured? Are u freaking blind or trying to be purposely idiotic? Surfers first blow bloodies Bill. At the end of the fight we see a bloody bill in the fetal position and u say that he was uninjured in the fight? Honestly if u truly believe that then something is wrong with u.Further, surfer using his board was not a sneak attack. saying it was, is just monumentally daft. Using his board is EXTREMELY tactic for surfer to use to assist him in getting a majority (whether 7/10,8/10,9/10 or 10/10)he afterall WILL BE FIGHTING TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITIES.
The fact is that Surfer took bills blows undamaged meanwhile his blows seriously hurt bill while Surfer was HOLDING BACK. That is a clear sign of superiority. Further using one of ur numerous avenues of attack is in no way a sneak attack. Ur entire "argument" (if it can even be called that) is completely nonsensical. It ranges from u completely ignoring what is shown on panel and replacing it with ur own fabrications to u labelling a perfectly viable method of attack in a forum fight "a sneak attack" and subsequently attempting to disregard the entire fight on that basis.
Really carver even for u thats pretty weak.........
I already told you about the blood splattering but bill didnt have the bruises
to make up for the showing of blood that surfer exploited on bill.
I agree the board is part of surfers abilities BUT I just think of it as a
cop way out, especially by using it as a surprise attack. Answer this, when
did surfer start whipping bills a**, I'm pretty sure it happened when he
hit bill in the back of the head with that board, before that surfer didnt
even land a lick and bill got in two shots AND THEN deflected surfers blast.
I agree, it was a smart tactic and I give surfer the nods in that battle because
he earned it but saying that he's superior to brb in any kind of way due to THAT
fight is just ludicris.
You brought up about surfer shrugging off some of brb attacks, well, honestly
I think surfer is one of the most durable characters in mu and I dont doubt that
he could shrug off a couple of them but if it continued, he would have been
injured.
we both have different opinions on the battle and we're seeing it from different
views, maybe they'll fight again (I'm pretty sure its going to happen) and we can
see what happens then.
Originally posted by Mindship
😂 comical...but no...Lockjaw was able to immobilize Surfer's board. And Supes I think would take the hit at least as well as an enraged Hulk. But it's a tactic that would likely work only once.
And for those who feel Surfer's board attack was below the belt, may I remind you that this tactic has been used often enough by Captain America with his boomerangin' shield.
Its not below the belt, it was tacticle BUT that attack is the ONLY reason he be bill.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIt did conjure up quite a pic in my mind's eye (that's what the 😂 was for).
It was a joke.
But he did catch Thor's hammer with one hand and knocked him out with the other. While standing down.Y'know, I was going to mention that fight, though mostly how Thor caught Supes with a plain ol' frontal assault. But I understand JLA/Av is not legit for forum use (though I'm curious why, since it is canon).
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
facepalmYou're better than that.
It was to show that if Superman can do that to Thor in a crossover/comic, I don't see why what I described wouldn't happen to Silver Surfer. Besides, admissible on the forum or not, it did happen in a comic that is for all intents and purposes canon to both companies.
Originally posted by Mindship
Y'know, I was going to mention that fight, though mostly how Thor caught Supes with a plain ol' frontal assault. But I understand JLA/Av is not legit for forum use (though I'm curious why, since it is canon).
I'm not sure either, but from what I understood there were some heated arguments over here, and supposdley posters used this crossover as the main argument in order to prove their point. It was ruled that this is not just, and thus what will be used to prove a certain character's superiority over another would be showings within their own Universe and not the crossover.
Originally posted by Philosophía
It was to show that if Superman can do that to Thor in a crossover/comic, I don't see why what I described wouldn't happen to Silver Surfer. Besides, admissible on the forum or not, it did happen in a comic that is for all intents and purposes canon to both companies.
A crossover which conflicts with a lot of Marvel's timeline AND had a lot of other interesting bits. Such as Wonder Man smashing apart Kyle's shield with a single blow....
Originally posted by carver9Gotta disagree here. Surfer said Bill should stop because he couldn't match him, not something like, "Bill, stop, you're hurt." Surfer's comment clearly implied there was much more he could bring to the table.
BUT that attack is the ONLY reason he beat bill.
What I'm curious about is how that statement is going to hold up with any future confrontation.
Originally posted by Mindship
Gotta disagree here. Surfer said Bill should stop because he couldn't match him, not something like, "Bill, stop, you're hurt." Surfer's comment clearly implied there was much more he could bring to the table.
And you think two punches with his hammer is all that Bill has? 😆
Originally posted by Mindship
Gotta disagree here. Surfer said Bill should stop because he couldn't match him, not something like, "Bill, stop, you're hurt." Surfer's comment clearly implied there was much more he could bring to the table.What I'm curious about is how that statement is going to hold up with any future confrontation.
Of course he could bring more to the table to an injured bill. A sneak attack from an indestructible board going at light speed in the back of the head should have KILLED bill and again, that attack gave surfer the advantage, before that surfer wasnt doing so well.
the board incident was bill's fault, if he didn't knock surfer off of the board, he wouldn't have had the opening to cheap shot him with it. 😛
and note the immediate follow up punch by the surfer minus the board.
since when did improvised battle tactic get such a bad rap? especially one surfer's used before.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
A crossover which conflicts with a lot of Marvel's timeline AND had a lot of other interesting bits. Such as Wonder Man smashing apart Kyle's shield with a single blow....
The crossover was acknowledge and the intentions is clearly for it to be canon to both companies. Whatever contradictions/character low showings which happen in the main Universes also have nothing to do with what my point is, which is that Superman has been portrayed to do that against Thor in a crossover acknowledged by the both companies and thus could possibly do something akin to what I've described against Surfer. Superman vs Thor/Kyle sucks/How does JLA/Avengers fit with a certain company are discussions for another time.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The crossover was acknowledge and the intentions is clearly for it to be canon to both companies. Whatever contradictions/character low showings which happen in the main Universes also have nothing to do with what my point is, which is that Superman has been portrayed to do that against Thor in a crossover acknowledged by the both companies and thus could possibly do something akin to what I've described against Surfer.
Not really though.
All Thor or Superman comics are acknowledged by their respective companies, doesn't mean they're not PIS or incorrect portrayals of the characters. The scenario is also completely different seeing as Surfer's board relies on attacking an unaware or occupied opponent. Thor started his hammer swing while he was mid-heat vision. One of the two is very easy to predict.