Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you did. You continue to say this is a stomp in Odin's favor when they met in a comic. Odin didn't even win yet you still keep clamoring on about an Odin stomp.
Christ. I'm not even going to bother.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus Like we both said, Odin's power is fluctuates depending on the story. Some times it is said he severely holds back, or he needs the Odin Sleep etc. Whatever the excuse, it fluctuates.Based on Odin's "overall" feats in his history and/or higher end feats, and based on the rules of these boards, where characters are used at their better aspect of power, Odin, caves Thanos' head in.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm, the fight wasn't finished. I have been over this a million times with you already. It was an unfinished fight with no winner.We don't ignore comic book fights between these characters though. I don't say on this board thor stomps Gladiator because he crushed the Surfer ignoring Gladiator's fight with Thor. Abc logic only works if these characters have never faced off.
An unfinished fight with no winner?
It was obvious who was going to win.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm using common sense, Odin's overall showings, and these boards rules to determine the winner.
Originally posted by EnyalusI myself don't believe he amped his personal power with the orb.
He also got Tyrant's orb after he fought Odin.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYou keep responding. You never proved he held back. Warlock also said that Thanos' upper limits were never tested. Listen to warlock, he wouldn't steer you wrong.
Christ. I'm not even going to bother.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You keep responding. You never proved he held back. Warlock also said that Thanos' upper limits were never tested. Listen to warlock, he wouldn't steer you wrong.
Unfortunately I can't keep myself from responding to some of you're statements.
Thanos upper limits have never been tested?
Well they surely were there, as he was unable to harm Odin while Odin smacked him around.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe was unable to physically affect him up until the point the battle stopped. Had it continued it's anyone's guess.
Unfortunately I can't keep myself from responding to some of you're statements.Thanos upper limits have never been tested?
Well they surely were there, as he was unable to harm Odin while Odin smacked him around.
Thanos is indeed a peer of Odin and Odin's words proved as much. 😛
Quanchi112: All Thanos managed to do was weather Odin's attacks. Odin was utterly unphased by Thanos. To suggest that Odin wasn't winning is ridiculous. Thanos was lucky that the fight ended right there because he was in a world of crap. Thanos being a peer of Odin is about as stupid as suggesting that Darkseid is an Abstract.
Originally posted by EnyalusEnyalus: There's a gap between scans three and four. The first three scans take place in Silver Surfer #88. The next five scans take place in Warlock Chronicles #8. What occurs during that gap and is there any quantification of time during that gap?
Certain things are cut out, but this is all in order and should jog your memory:
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was unable to physically affect him up until the point the battle stopped. Had it continued it's anyone's guess.Thanos is indeed a peer of Odin and Odin's words proved as much. 😛
He wasn't affecting him until the point the battle stopped?
That doesn't make any sense. Odin was throwing him around, all over the place.
Odin and Thanos are peers?
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Originally posted by iceman24567You mean patience.
You have patients like no other 👆
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I never said Odin wasn't winning.
Quanchi112: All Thanos managed to do was weather Odin's attacks. Odin was utterly unphased by Thanos. To suggest that Odin wasn't winning is ridiculous. Thanos was lucky that the fight ended right there because he was in a world of crap. Thanos being a peer of Odin is about as stupid as suggesting that Darkseid is an Abstract.Enyalus: There's a gap between scans three and four. The first three scans take place in Silver Surfer #88. The next five scans take place in Warlock Chronicles #8. What occurs during that gap and is there any quantification of time during that gap?
How isn't he a peer of Odin's? I mean the fight was never finished. It went on for quite a while in the comic world anyways. Odin said he was one of the greatest opponents he had faced in eons. I guess you choose to ignore Odin's own words as well. Shame.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI said he wasn't able to affect him at the point the battle stopped. Saying he wouldn't have affected him had the battle continued is speculation.
He wasn't affecting him until the point the battle stopped?That doesn't make any sense. Odin was throwing him around, all over the place.
Odin and Thanos are peers?
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No, Odin only threw him aroun dafter he grabbed gungir. Before he was barely moving. Thanos also wade through an energy blast and fought for possession of gungir.
Originally posted by quanchi112Good. Because Thanos was losing.
I never said Odin wasn't winning.How isn't he a peer of Odin's? I mean the fight was never finished. It went on for quite a while in the comic world anyways. Odin said he was one of the greatest opponents he had faced in eons. I guess you choose to ignore Odin's own words as well. Shame.
Show me a scan where Odin said, "You are one of the greatest opponents I have faced in eons."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0When did I ever say that Thanos was winning?
Good. Because Thanos was losing.Show me a scan where Odin said, "You are one of the greatest opponents I have faced in eons."
The point is he was a peer of Odin's. Odin respected Thanos and that was before he realized he was still in the fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said he wasn't able to affect him at the point the battle stopped. Saying he wouldn't have affected him had the battle continued is speculation.No, Odin only threw him aroun dafter he grabbed gungir. Before he was barely moving. Thanos also wade through an energy blast and fought for possession of gungir.
Thanos was at Odin's feat while Odin was standing completely unharmed.
Odin was clearly affecting him as he was smacking him around, and would have done so to a greater degree if it proceeded.
Gungnir is nothing but a tool that Odin channels his power through. It doesn't augment his power etc.
Anyways, we will continue this later, because I'm going right now.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Good. Because Thanos was losing.Show me a scan where Odin said, "You are one of the greatest opponents I have faced in eons."
Originally posted by quanchi112You suggested Odin wasn't winning when you stated that it was speculation that Thanos' attacks would continue to be ineffective had the battle gone on longer. I never acused you of stating that Thanos was winning. Even I know you're not so reckless as to suggest such an inane conclusion.
When did I ever say that Thanos was winning?The point is he was a peer of Odin's. Odin respected Thanos and that was before he realized he was still in the fight.
Translation: "I was inflating Odin's comments to Thanos to bolster Thanos' power because all other evidence suggests that Odin is well above Thanos."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Enyalus: There's a gap between scans three and four. The first three scans take place in Silver Surfer #88. The next five scans take place in Warlock Chronicles #8. What occurs during that gap and is there any quantification of time during that gap?
I didn't leave anything important out or splice the scans to get them to say what I want them too lol.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Was it really only one or two attacks, I thought it was a better fight than that?
HE shot at Galactus, which he countered with a blast of his own. HE shot again, which Galactus avoided and shot him with his own blast that sent HE to the Negative Zone.
For the record, though, he eventually came back and used tech to devolve Galactus into a giant brain, if that makes any sense at all.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Which by your definition must be PIS since Surfer has a superior number of feats...
No, because Odin has superior feats to SS. Plus, this isn't the first time Surfer has been knocked out easily.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Which definitely shows that Odin has a greater offensive power output than Thanos, but that still doesn't mean that his being unable to put down Thanos was PIS. Thor's got far more feats indicating a far higher power output than Juggernaught, but that doesn't mean that the confrontations in which Jugg's stands up to Thor's attacks are PIS.
I'm not saying it's PIS. I'm saying that what Odin showed wasn't Odin going all out, because he's displayed far more power than what he showed in this fight.
Your Thor vs Juggernaut argument is invalid, because the very nature of Juggs ability is to be impervious to attacks.
Originally posted by darthgoober
He was putting on a show for Mistress Death, EVERYONE got hits in on him.
But not everyone beat Thanos down the way Thor did.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait so you're not saying that the Thanos/Odin confrontation is PIS? My point has never been that Thanos is equal to Odin, it's been that his fight with Odin is valid evidence and doesn't fall into the PIS category. Whether or not Odin can one shot people on Hulk's level is irrelevant because Thanos's level of power far exceeds the likes of the Hulk.
Like I said above, I'm not saying it's PIS. I'm just saying Odin has the ability to do far more than what he did against Thanos, so saying that Thanos stood any kind of chance against Odin is ridiculous.
Odin one-shotting people on Hulk's level is relevant, because my point is Thanos was unable to do the same, which he should have been able to if he were a supposed challenge to Odin.
