Griffin versus Nightcrawler..... · Movie Versus Forum

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Robtard
He's faster than Griffin and his teleporting/attack is faster than those hooks. I believe is the point.
Any way you slice it, NC has the advantage in this fight, only thing Griffin can do is jump further and bring back shit. Though in truth, NC can also teleport people/objects. So Griffin is only really better at escaping, as he can go from Canada to Thailand, in one jump.

Griffin is faster than the hooks to, durh. And Griffin is a faster better jumper, show me a scene where NC jumps faster than Griffin.

And NC is shown TPing people, not objects, if I remember correctly.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Griffin can jump further, but NC ports faster, watch the White House scene, they slowed it down because in real time it would have been over in moments. The fastest Griffin ever jumped was in his base where he kept jumping a few feet in front of himself to build up momentum, then hit Jackson hard enough to knock him through the wall. And if NC can teleport a person, he can teleport at least a person sized object.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

And the coliseum scene?

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Griffin is faster than the hooks to, durh. And Griffin is a faster better jumper, show me a scene where NC jumps faster than Griffin.
And NC is shown TPing people, not objects, if I remember correctly.

But not a bullet, which NC can handle, ergo he's faster. Watch the White House scene, that trumps anything in Jumper. Why are we still disputing this, NC is clearly faster.

Well, clothes in an "object", not that he'd need to teleport in a gun or bat to take down Griffin, his fist, feet and tail would be enough.

Robtard Senor Member

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And the coliseum scene?

Not more impressive than the White House scene.

There where more Secret Service agents/Security Guards than Paladins and they were all armed with guns, not silly little electrical hooks.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Robtard
But not a bullet, which NC can handle, ergo he's faster. Watch the White House scene, that trumps anything in Jumper. Why are we still disputing this, NC is clearly faster.
Well, clothes in an "object", not that he'd need to teleport in a gun or bat to take down Griffin, his fist, feet and tail would be enough.

More of the "NC would take Griffin down h2h" I see. Yes, he would, IF he got close enough.

And no, he AINT faster than Griffin. Griffin is a far better jumper. Why didnt NC jump directly to the oval office?

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Because he didn't know what the Oval office looked like, plus he was under mind control at the time. Unless Griffin had a pic, he probably wouldn't try to jump directly inside the office either.

Eminence Boss

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And no, he AINT faster than Griffin. Griffin is a far better jumper. Why didnt NC jump directly to the oval office?

What does that have to do with speed? At all?

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by KingD19
Because he didn't know what the Oval office looked like, plus he was under mind control at the time. Unless Griffin had a pic, he probably wouldn't try to jump directly inside the office either.

And how hard would it have been for NC to get a pic of the oval office? You telling me he decided to NOT google it or find a pic in a magazine, and decided to take the harder route? Come on. NC didnt jump to the oval office cuz he is an inferior jumper, case closed.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

What part of, Mind Controlled didn't you get? His instructions were simple, and he carried them out simply. If he were in control of his mind, he probably could have teleported directly inside the oval office.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Come on. NC didnt jump to the oval office cuz he is an inferior jumper, case closed.

Nightcrawler isn't a Jumper.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

If anything, Jumpers are overpowered, boot leg teleporters.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by KingD19
What part of, Mind Controlled didn't you get? His instructions were simple, and he carried them out simply. If he were in control of his mind, he probably could have teleported directly inside the oval office.

Probably doesnt cut it. He didnt, therefore he cant.

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by Placidity
Nightcrawler isn't a Jumper.

Jumping IS teleporting.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Let's use the since it didn't happen, it can't happen logic. Griffin didn't teleport faster than Nightcrawler, so he can't.

Griffin didn't teleport anywhere he hadn't seen before, so he can't.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Re: Griffin versus Nightcrawler.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Nightcrawler
YouTube video

I just notice from 1:34 to whenever you want to stop it...

its in slow motion, if it was sped up to normal speed he'd be teleporting
fast as ****... WHILE KICKING EVERYONE IN THE FACE!!!!!!!

Rogue Jedi Restricted

Originally posted by KingD19
Let's use the since it didn't happen, it can't happen logic. Griffin didn't teleport faster than Nightcrawler, so he can't.
Griffin didn't teleport anywhere he hadn't seen before, so he can't.

Griffin can TP anywhere he has seen in real life or in a pic. He can jump pretty much anywhere in the world.

NC cant.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by Robtard
If we're going to use "luck" as the end all factor, then McClane can defeat anyone.

crylaugh

Eminence Boss

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Probably doesnt cut it. He didnt, therefore he cant.

You've already been shown two scenes in which Nightcrawler teleports to places he can't see. The first was in the halls of the White House, the second was when he zips out of the jet to save Rogue, who is falling through the air miles away.

KingD19 Shai-Gen's Enigmatic Wong

Without slowing it down, I say all of that happened in under 7 seconds.
He also ported Rogue inside the pseudo-Cerebro room.

And Nightcrawler said he has to see where he's going, or have a clear picture, like he's been there before. If he can remember it, he can port there, simply put, if he can memorize a pic, he can port there.