Originally posted by EminenceDude I know this, and again my point is being overlooked. Griffin has been jumping like that for YEARS, he is a more experienced, more skilled jumper.
You've already been shown two scenes in which Nightcrawler teleports to places he can't see. The first was in the halls of the White House, the second was when he zips out of the jet to save Rogue, who is falling through the air miles away.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude I know this, and again my point is being overlooked. Griffin has been jumping like that for YEARS, he is a more experienced, more skilled jumper.
So you assume NC just started teleporting that very day in X2? He was born a mutant, dude.
Besides, Mairuzu just posted the White House clip, as I said 6+ times in here since the first page, NC is faster in every aspect. I'd watch it if I were you.
Originally posted by EminenceDistance, speed, and weaponry.
His only advantage is distance, for all his purported experience and skill.
Originally posted by RobtardAnd Griffin was jumping at age five. point?
So you assume NC just started teleporting that very day in X2? He was born a mutant, dude.Besides, Mairuzu just posted the White House clip, as I said 6+ times in here since the first page, NC is faster in every aspect. I'd watch it if I were you.
I have watched it, and despite your insistence that NC is faster, I see Griffin as being faster. Face it, we are gonna disagree on that to the grave.
Whe NC was TPing around the oval office attack, when he was jumping jumping jumping, whats the farthest he TP'd, more or less?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Griffin was jumping at age five. point?I have watched it, and despite your insistence that NC is faster, I see Griffin as being faster. Face it, we are gonna disagree on that to the grave.
Whe NC was TPing around the oval office attack, when he was jumping jumping jumping, whats the farthest he TP'd, more or less?
Dude, NC is clearly faster in that scene, you'd have to have zero objectivity to say otherwise.
We've already covered that Griffin can TP further, but repeat, not sure what his jumping to France and back will do in this fight, unless he's trying to run away.
Originally posted by Robtard
Dude, NC is clearly faster in that scene, you'd have to have zero objectivity to say otherwise.We've already covered that Griffin can TP further, but repeat, not sure what his jumping to France and back will do in this fight, unless he's trying to run away.
Sure, why not.
And yes Griffin can TP further. In the Coliseum scene, when Griffin was jumping all over, how far roughly was he jumping? Trust me, I am going somewhere with this.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And yes Griffin can TP further. In the Coliseum scene, when Griffin was jumping all over, how far roughly was he jumping? Trust me, I am going somewhere with this.
I think people have repeatedly agreed that Griffin can teleport further. If you're "going somewhere" with it, now is the time...
So, Griffin ports farther? Big deal, it’s not gonna do him much good in a fight. Hell, in the fight with him and David across the world, David won.
And bringing up the distance he ported in the coliseum is only proving that he ported farther again, which everyone agrees on. In the white house, there wasn’t much space to port in.
And when Jean and Storm found Kurt in that huuuuge church, he was porting all around the place.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, why not.And yes Griffin can TP further. In the Coliseum scene, when Griffin was jumping all over, how far roughly was he jumping? Trust me, I am going somewhere with this.
Well, the scenes can be seen and one is clearly faster, NC being the one.
Don't recall exactly, but probably a few hundred feet. Not counting any cross continental jumps, if he did. Go!
Originally posted by RobtardNo. Watch closer. When NC TP's, there is at least a half a second to a full second before he reappears, whereas Griffin's jumps are so fast one can hardly follow them, they are almost instantaneous. Especially the scene where he TP's at Roland and knocks him through the wall, NC NEVER displays that kind of speed.
Well, the scenes can be seen and one is clearly faster, NC being the one.
Don't recall exactly, but probably a few hundred feet. Not counting any cross continental jumps, if he did. Go!Good guess, that's about what I had. OK.....Same question regarding NC, when he was TPing around the oval office, when he was jumping jumping jumping.
Originally posted by KingD19I am talking about the fight in the halls, BEFORE the slowed down oval office fight. He TP's, and there is a short delay in him getting tto where he is going. And yeah, the STATIONARY agents could not follow him.
When they slowed it down, the real speed of that fight would have been a couple seconds long. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Nightcrawler teleporting and fighting so fast they couldn't follow him at all?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. Watch closer. When NC TP's, there is at least a half a second to a full second before he reappears, whereas Griffin's jumps are so fast one can hardly follow them, they are almost instantaneous. Especially the scene where he TP's at Roland and knocks him through the wall, NC NEVER displays that kind of speed.Good guess, that's about what I had. OK.....Same question regarding NC, when he was TPing around the oval office, when he was jumping jumping jumping.
Dude, seriosuly. As Mairuzu said, watch form 1:34 on, he's TPing and attacking so fast that all you see is his smoke leftovers, then the camera slows down so you can see how he's attacking. That means he can TP and attack in less than a second.JUST WATCH FROM 1:34 and don't be an ass.
Not sure, probably less than Griffin during the Coliseum fight. If you're going to say "ah, Griffin can TP further", we know. Though NC can easily TP further than what he showed in that one scene, as he's shown doing further in the movie; you know this.
Originally posted by RobtardHow am I being an ass for watching and observing, and seeing that there is a delay in NC getting where he TP's to? I am talking about NC jumping from point A to point B, and how long it TAKES him to get from point A to point B, NOT how long it takes him to say "I am gonna jump over there", then execute.
Dude, seriosuly. As Mairuzu said, watch form 1:34 on, he's TPing and attacking so fast that all you see is his smoke leftovers, then the camera slows down so you can see how he's attacking. That means he can TP and attack in less than a second.[b]JUST WATCH FROM 1:34 and don't be an ass.Not sure, probably less than Griffin during the Coliseum fight. If you're going to say "ah, Griffin can TP further", we know. Though NC can easily TP further than what he showed in that one scene, as he's shown doing further in the movie; you know this.
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Griffin is all over the place in a near instantaneous fashion, in microseconds.
If Griffin and NC are standing side by side and decide to have a race, like a 100 yard TPing dash, and they have to TP five times each, then Griffin is gonna win, simple as that.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How am I being an ass for watching and observing, and seeing that there is a delay in NC getting where he TP's to? I am talking about NC jumping from point A to point B, and how long it TAKES him to get from point A to point B, NOT how long it takes him to say "I am gonna jump over there", then execute.Griffin is all over the place in a near instantaneous fashion, in microseconds.
If Griffin and NC are standing side by side and decide to have a race, like a 100 yard TPing dash, and they have to TP five times each, then Griffin is gonna win, simple as that.
Because he teleports and attacks so fast you don't actually see him. How is that not faster?
Originally posted by RobtardSorry dude, but that is BS. I am watching the vid right now, as I type. He poofs, a cloud of smoke appears where he was, and then there is a delay, then he reappears in a cloud of smoke. I see what you are getting at, why you are thinking what you are thinking, and here's why: When he is jumping all over the oval office, in the confined space, and the black clouds of smoke are everywhere, it is a bit hard to follow him. It appears that he is moving faster than he actually is. He is actually moving at the same speed as he is in the hallways outside the oval office, at a rate slower than Griffin.
Because he teleports and attacks so fast you don't actually see him. How is that not faster?
And I still havent been given a legit answer as to why NC didnt just port directly to the oval office. If it had been Griffin, he'd have jumped right into the office with a bomb, BOOM, end of story. Why? Because he is a better jumper.
Hand to hand: Advantage NC
Weapons: Advantage Griffin
Jumping ability: Griffin by far
He's not a better jumper, he can jump farther, that's it. And I gave you an answer, you just ignored it. Nightcrawler was mind controlled by the cerebral fluid of Stryker's son. He had no higher thoughts than infiltrate, kill, escape. If he was in full command of his mind, and he had a picture of the oval office, he would have ported right in.
I saw that answer, not a legit one.
Stryker is a tactician, he is a military man, surely he wanted the job done right, dont you agree? If he wanted the job done right, dont you think he would have had NC port directly to the oval office?
"infiltrate, kill, escape.............." I agree. What better way to do this than to port to the oval office directly? Why didnt NC do this? Oh yeah, cuz he CANT.
I just proved Griffin is a bettter jumper. He can jump farther, and FASTER. Its right there in the vids.