Originally posted by batdude123Ya.
Batman just recently put a hurting on Bronze Tiger, btw.
But I'm talking about when Bronze Tiger didn't gain an advantage over Batman in the fight (although Batman was defeated earlier) a while ago.
Still a ridiculous feat of skill.
Meh, Bronze Tiger is like one of the most skilled people in the DC Universe, so even lasting a couple seconds against him... let alone stalemating, and even taking him down recently... hmm...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya.But I'm talking about when Bronze Tiger didn't gain an advantage over Batman in the fight (although Batman was defeated earlier) a while ago.
Still a ridiculous feat of skill.
Meh, Bronze Tiger is like one of the most skilled people in the DC Universe, so even lasting a couple seconds against him... let alone stalemating, and even taking him down recently... hmm...
I'm especially fond of this strength feat.
"Here, he hurls Dr. Death through a reinforced door designed to withstand the impact of f*ckin’ MISSLES (beats the shit out of anything Elektra has done when it comes to strength):"
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Heh.
Also, this one made me wonder.
"I can see fifteen ways to kill you from this position."
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Also, if Batman was out to kill, he knows the most deadly strikes in MA, and can pull them off as easily as a normal punch... so...
Originally posted by batdude123
He fights and defeats metahumans on a regular basis, if that's what you're asking.
Originally posted by batdude123
Uh, sorry, but adrenaline doesn't just stop all of a sudden two seconds after you have a guy at knife point.
Originally posted by batdude123
And if you look at the scan again, he wasn't even holding his leg.
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Originally posted by batdude123
Are you actually reading my posts? I didn't say the wound was completely healed. However, the bleeding did stop, and the bullet hole closed in one panel, as shown here...Once again, it shows an accelerated degree of healing from Bruce.
Originally posted by batdude123
What specifically have they done? And show me examples, or give me issue numbers. Ambiguous claims aren't going to help you here.
In New x-men 116 I believe was the issue number in which Logan through his insight of MA is able to amplify healing factor while meditating
Shang-chi
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Danny
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Originally posted by batdude123
Also, isn't Stick dead?
Stick was able to through training in the martial arts defy death and remain on earth as shown when he fights wolverine in Wolverine Onslaught Impact 2 issue 105
Originally posted by batdude123
And for that matter, Ogun? Besides, Ogun is a character of mystical origins.
Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Deathstroke's faster... and he's stronger than what Elektra is normally shown as (which is strong, but not Class 10...)
I'm sorry I don't remember the last time Deathstroke batted away automatic machine gun fire with knives.. 😬
Originally posted by batdude123
1. The fight ended prematurely.2. Whether she was mind controlled or not is still to this day speculation.
3. He's beaten her once in two pages worth of fighting...
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http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfcb2.jpgAnd he's also beaten her with one arm behind his back the entire time. 😐
4. Deathstroke's stronger, faster, and more durable than Elektra. Telepathy means nothing in this fight, seeing as how Batman has telepathy blockers built into his cowl, and he's had mystical training which allows him protection from telepathy.
You're bringing up instances that took place in the 80's and early 90's. They're not valid reasons as to why Elektra wins this fight, seeing as how I've given tons upon tons of more recent examples up above. On panel feats show that Batman is superior. Now, whether you want to attribute that to him being one of the most popular characters in comic book history or not is your own prerogative.
😂 😛
1. he didn't show any sign that he was on his way to really winning that. 😬
2. Hard fought unless you count premature instances.
3. Speculation for that fight not others.
4. He MAY be stronger, but he's not faster being able to trip flash isn't a real showing of his speed.
Batman has good showings but how can you honestly try to argue that he's going to beat someone who's easily as skilled as he is, and much faster when it comes to hand speed?
I was also assuming this was a straight hand to hand seeing as Batman's suit grants him superhuman durability and fail safes on top of that I would think that it falls into equiptment not to be considered for this fight.
Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Batman 9/10 Elektra wouldn't stand a chance against all the different styles Batman knows, she would be too confused 😂
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you do realize that Hand ninja are supposed to be masters of virtually every martial art style known to marvel earth and that Elektra not only owns them en mass'e but has been one several times in the past.. IF Batman was going to win this fight it wouldn't be because his styles were too "confusing" for her.. pfffft.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
LOL still feats that are irrelevant. I've seen Gambit block multipile bullets but he faired bad against Bullseye.Heck I've seen Zaran block multiple bullets and yet he loses a bunch.
Since your so obsessed with bullets. I've seen Daredevil keep up in a race with a bullet, big deal. I've also seen DD put down Logan easily at one point in his career. Doesn't mean much on how real fights go. Its on consistency and a basis........Electra not so much.
Blocking multiple bullets or blocking automatic gunfire? There's a massive gap in the range of speed needed between the two.
You've seen DD put Logan down in an Ennis written comic book where Logan stood up to a rocket launcher 3 pages later.. you wanna talk about irrelivant?
Elektra is consistently portrayed as a badass mofo who's top tier in skill, superhuman in physicality and good enough to compete with and beat other Marvel top tiers.. so why does she flat out lose to Batman?
Originally posted by jinzin
Blocking multiple bullets or blocking automatic gunfire? There's a massive gap in the range of speed needed between the two.You've seen DD put Logan down in an Ennis written comic book where Logan stood up to a rocket launcher 3 pages later.. you wanna talk about irrelivant?
Elektra is consistently portrayed as a badass mofo who's top tier in skill, superhuman in physicality and good enough to compete with and beat other Marvel top tiers.. so why does she flat out lose to Batman?
Yeah as a badass mofo who got killed by Bullseye and got resurrected only to have Daredevil's help against Bullseye and she still couldn't pulled it off even with help. As DD has done it on his own. Of course thats not the reason DD can beat her it because he's shown to have the better fights and the overall better record.
Yes she can compete and beat and win but just not for a majority against the elite such as Daredevil, Shang, Iron Fist, Cap, and Black Panther.
Irrelivant? At least its Logan and not some no named loser that you call Taskmaster level.
I see you still provide no proof whatsoever that she can mind rape one of the elites as you claimed so vigorously in the beginning. Still can't admit to it?
And yet no proof. I see.
Also your logic reminds me of the silly Batgirl fans.
Cass can dodge bullets and not the aim so she wrecks Batman. According to some of them because of that alone.
And yet in all the Batman fights its shown to be a stalemate or a small advantage to Cass in a sparring fight. And in another sparring fight it shows Bruce having the edge.
Your Electra blocking bullets arguement resembles much of that yet in her fights against the elite no were does it demonstrate any superiority whatsoever. Seriously your version of Electra does not exist.
Its like a high fetish out extreme silly Electra is your charceter, like a Captain America fan saying just because Cap has dodged multipile lasers under zero gravity mind you to the point that he plays in enery beams resembling the Flash and blocking them with guantlets in other times easily for training. Cap will dominate any street level character. But this is untrue if you review Cap's fight with the elite.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah as a badass mofo who got killed by Bullseye and got resurrected only to have Daredevil's help against Bullseye and she still couldn't pulled it off even with help. As DD has done it on his own. Of course thats not the reason DD can beat her it because he's shown to have the better fights and the overall better record.Yes she can compete and beat and win but just not for a majority against the elite such as Daredevil, Shang, Iron Fist, Cap, and Black Panther.
Irrelivant? At least its Logan and not some no named loser that you call Taskmaster level.
I see you still provide no proof whatsoever that she can mind rape one of the elites as you claimed so vigorously in the beginning. Still can't admit to it?
And yet no proof. I see.
Again, you think using feats from BEFORE ELEKTRA got her superpowers and hand training is suitable to argue about how she'll fair now that she has them.
Are you dense? She's beaten TASKMASTER HIMSELF!
Using DD's own style no less!
And with two hits.
Something Cap failed to do with a friggin sheild on two seperate occasions!
Yeah aside from the fact that she's a known telepath and got into Logan's head with his level 9 psyblockers. 😐
But hell, that's not as convincing an argument as "hes batman" I guess.
Originally posted by jinzin
Again, you think using feats from BEFORE ELEKTRA got her superpowers and hand training is suitable to argue about how she'll fair now that she has them.Are you dense? She's beaten TASKMASTER HIMSELF!
Using DD's own style no less!
And with two hits.Something Cap failed to do with a friggin sheild on two seperate occasions!
Yeah aside from the fact that she's a known telepath and got into Logan's head with his level 9 psyblockers. 😐
But hell, that's not as convincing an argument as "hes batman" I guess.
So she's beaten Taskmaster. So what. Moonstone beat Task. Deadpool had the major edge on Task. DD also beat Task and or outsmarted him.
LOL that fact that you say Cap fails shows you did not read as there were unexpected circumstances like Task using suprise and as he hit Cap knocked him down and ran away. As Cap got up and was not KO'ed in the slightest.
Also in the rematch Cap had the advantage at the end of there fight.
Plus the Electra that fought Bullseye was after coming back from the dead.
I see you still supply no evidence for your mind raping. Do you still insist on this or decline?
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Also your logic reminds me of the silly Batgirl fans.Cass can dodge bullets and not the aim so she wrecks Batman. According to some of them because of that alone.
And yet in all the Batman fights its shown to be a stalemate or a small advantage to Cass in a sparring fight. And in another sparring fight it shows Bruce having the edge.
Your Electra blocking bullets arguement resembles much of that yet in her fights against the elite no were does it demonstrate any superiority whatsoever. Seriously your version of Electra does not exist.
Its like a high fetish out extreme silly Electra is your charceter, like a Captain America fan saying just because Cap has dodged multipile lasers under zero gravity mind you to the point that he plays in enery beams resembling the Flash and blocking them with guantlets in other times easily for training. Cap will dominate any street level character. But this is untrue if you review Cap's fight with the elite.
🤨 Everything I've said has been backed up with scans and issue numbers.
Her phenominal speed is always a character trait she shows off.
Against elite?
She's curbed Razorfist who's given a hell of a fight to a clawless Wolverine, Cap, and Shang Chi.
She curbed Taskmaster who's humiliated everyone from Cap and Spiderman to Ironman.
She plowed through an Apocalypse Acolite that was giving the X-Men problems.
Given Wolverine all hell.
Beat Silver Samurai when he was suped up on class 10 strength; A guy who without it has beaten on Spiderman, Shang Chi, and given Wolverine a hard time.
She speedblitzed Punisher! A guy who's been able to cope with DD's AND Cap's speed in physical combat and even compete with both.
He's not just some mook off the street he's a damned peak human.
Sorry but this isn't "my version" of the character, it's the version that exists.
The ony "version" of Elektra being tossed around in this thread that doesn't exist is the one who can't even draw 3 wins from Bats from these board members much less a split or a majority.
It's okay though, a lot of people don't know Elektra outside of DD books when her CIS is effecting her the worst. Most people just see her on DD covers and know that she got waisted by Bullseye thus assuming that she's on a tier below the both of them when that hasn't been true since the early to mid 90's and is even less so now. She's had DD at sai point in two panels, ousped him and dissappeared practically in front of him (radar sense).
🤨 Cap DOES dominate most elite street people...
He's beaten DD, beaten Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Zaran, Punisher, Crossones, Redskull, etc etc etc... Cap was really one of the worst examples you could pick when he's beaten almost every known ass in the Marvel universe.
Cap slipping in and out of lazer beams in zero gravity seems like more of feat of agility, flexibility and dexterity. It doesn't seem to be one of speed though.
Thing is this, when it comes to bullet or lazer dodging. Everyone who considers themselves (and even some that don't) a respectable street level can do it. When it comes to bullet catching, or deflecting, well that's a different story that neccessitates much more control with the speed being used. VERY high end street levels have done it, but none of them have done it to the degree that Elektra was doing it there.
One bullet or two? Perhaps. Full auto? No f*ckin way.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
So she's beaten Taskmaster. So what. Moonstone beat Task. Deadpool had the major edge on Task. DD also beat Task and or outsmarted him.LOL that fact that you say Cap fails shows you did not read as there were unexpected circumstances like Task using suprise and as he hit Cap knocked him down and ran away. As Cap got up and was not KO'ed in the slightest.
Also in the rematch Cap had the advantage at the end of there fight.
Plus the Electra that fought Bullseye was after coming back from the dead.
I see you still supply no evidence for your mind raping. Do you still insist on this or decline?
DP beat task due to an increased HF. Moonstone to powers. DD got a lucky plot device. The fact that he needed the plot device speaks volumes for what Elektra did compared to DD.
I didn't say Cap was KOed... okay you are dense..
I said he failed to KO taskmaster.. 😐
After coming back but before her second rebirth so it's irrelivent.
I just told you read Wolverine: Agent of Shield. 😬
She infiltrates Wolverine's brain with level 9 psy-blockers.. Just because I don't have access to immediate scans you're just going to ignore this? Pfffft. 🙄
