Kratos & Dante vs Kain

Started by Burning thought17 pages
Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
Kratos and Dante stomp badly when together but I could never debate this so ill just make this random statement. .
Originally posted by Burning thought
Theres no proof at all, you would have to be damn foolish to think a random Aura is proof of infnite DT, nothing in DMC proves he has infnite DT, and from what youe said before, youve never even played DMC 4 and ive played and had experiance with both GOW series, DMC series AND ofc LOK, I know full well he does not have infnite DT.

Being knocked out of DT has nonething to do with infinite DT, you have heard of full power? The aura actually gives him infinite DT(I think). You just won't except facts, but yet, you expect people to listen to your lies.

And as for this "canoncially" thing going around, Kratos, canoncially, lost his powers from God of War, but yet, you were using his abilities. Nice job being a hypocrite. What the hell does DMC4 have to do with infinite DT? If he doesn't have DT, explain the Mundus fight in space. The aura is enough proof. You keep saying the saying crap. "No proof" this and "no proof" that. But, yet, you haven't showed proof at ALL. Proves i'm right, you keep making the same statement, because YOU KNOW, you can't back any facts up.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Being knocked out of DT has nonething to do with infinite DT, you have heard of full power? The aura actually gives him infinite DT(I think). You just won't except facts, but yet, you expect people to listen to your lies.

And as for this "canoncially" thing going around, Kratos, canoncially, lost his powers from God of War, but yet, you were using his abilities. Nice job being a hypocrite. What the hell does DMC4 have to do with infinite DT? If he doesn't have DT, explain the Mundus fight in space. The aura is enough proof. You keep saying the saying crap. "No proof" this and "no proof" that. But, yet, you haven't showed proof at ALL. Proves i'm right, you keep making the same statement, because YOU KNOW, you can't back any facts up.

Ofc it does, it shows that he was not in DT for an infnite amount of time, so theres no evidence that his DT is infnite....theres no facts here at all...your statements and baseless rubbish.

What ability did i use? and arguably he regains them when holding the blade of Olmypus although I dont belive that myself. DMC 4 is to do with him not having Yamato in canon. I didnt say Dante does not have DT, ime saying its not infnite, it has a duration.

So your only argument that he apprently has infnite devil trigger is because he has a magical aura? 🙄

The proof is in the Mundus vs Dante fight.

HIS POWERS FROM GOD OF WAR. Hades' Souls...

According to the DMC book, when you perform DT, a magic aura appears around you, and that Dante INNER power is unlimited. Yeah...and? If Dante DT aura appears around him, and in DMC3, aura appeared around you in the Super-Dante costume, thus it has to be unlimited(or something like that).

Show me.....ive played it, theres nothing that states Dante can stay in DT for an infnite amount of time, and infact at the end of the fight, he loses his DT.

Hades souls is still his, it comes out of his hammer instead of himself this time however.

Show me the book, I dont believe you....make a scan of the page so I can see this apparent proof. This aura thing is going to get you no where, an aura is never proof and the Super dante costume is a goodie you get for completing certain difficulty levels, not a canon object....

Look at the "aura" around Dante, when he faces Mundus for the first time. It was already proven.

Hades' souls does not come out of the hammer, it's just some weak souls, nonething more. Your're still a hypocrite, and you still we're using his abilities taken away from him.

The aura around Dante is canon(See: Dante meets Mundus), thus the aura around Dante in Super-Dante form is canon. When he was in "DT" aura appeared around him.

I can't get the scanner to work. But to confirm it; It's on pg. 26(the unlimited inner power is, but the "aura" thing is on pg. 29).

Okay, I got the scanner to work. Here is the proof:

Originally posted by Gumachi
Okay, I got the scanner to work. Here is the proof:
feats for doppelganner? they are just as strong as hades souls plus now it the blade back Kratos can regain his ablities(not that the ones he has now are weak because they are just the same just no massive TK). this is a Dante AND Kratos vs endgame Kain thread. it's funny how you are weakening YOUR own support.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Look at the "aura" around Dante, when he faces Mundus for the first time. It was already proven.

Hades' souls does not come out of the hammer, it's just some weak souls, nonething more. Your're still a hypocrite, and you still we're using his abilities taken away from him.

The aura around Dante is canon(See: Dante meets Mundus), thus the aura around Dante in Super-Dante form is canon. When he was in "DT" aura appeared around him.

I can't get the scanner to work. But to confirm it; It's on pg. 26(the unlimited inner power is, but the "aura" thing is on pg. 29).

The aura means shit.....

Ofc it does, their souls from hades, same thing, same use....

The Aura as i said means shit, it doesnt prove anything.....

In answer to your scans, that is hyperbole, if we took that literally that would make Dante omnipotent because he has according to that unlimited power, which ofcourse is nonsense, hyperbole incase you did not know is exageration. That guide is a guide to the DMC gameplay not actual canon or lore as well, so it is not to be taken as a source of evidence.

Originally posted by Phanteros
feats for doppelganner? they are just as strong as hades souls plus now it the blade back Kratos can regain his ablities(not that the ones he has now are weak because they are just the same just no massive TK). this is a Dante AND Kratos vs endgame Kain thread. it's funny how you are weakening YOUR own support.

No there not. They cause minimal damage to enemies. I was talking about regaining abilities(if you know what I mean). No proof he gained his abilites, so no point in saying "he gained his abilites" back, because it wasn't shown. He's allowed to have his abilities, but Dante can't use Yamato? **** outta here.

Originally posted by Burning thought
The aura means shit.....

Ofc it does, their souls from hades, same thing, same use....

The Aura as i said means shit, it doesnt prove anything.....

In answer to your scans, that is hyperbole, if we took that literally that would make Dante omnipotent because he has according to that unlimited power, which ofcourse is nonsense, hyperbole incase you did not know is exageration. That guide is a guide [b]to the DMC gameplay not actual canon or lore as well, so it is not to be taken as a source of evidence. [/B]

Says you.

No it wasn't. Prove their Hades' Souls? Barbarian was using Hades' Souls? Yeah, right.

Once again, says you.

Inner Power inside Dante isn't a gameplay mechanic. You wanted proof, you got it. Stop bitching. Besides, unlimited power=omnipotent. There are two different omnipotents(universal power & unlimited power).

Same goes to Zeus' Gaunlet(which was taen away from him by Athena), but it's used in debates.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Same goes to Zeus' Gaunlet(which was taen away from him by Athena), but it's used in debates.
every one is using a amalgam Dante. so why can't we do the same for Kratos?

Huh? I was talking about when BT claims Dante can't use Yamato.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Says you.

No it wasn't. Prove their Hades' Souls? Barbarian was using Hades' Souls? Yeah, right.

Once again, says you.

Inner Power inside Dante isn't a gameplay mechanic. You wanted proof, you got it. Stop bitching. Besides, unlimited power=omnipotent. There are two different omnipotents(universal power & unlimited power).

Says anyone with half a brain

A Hades soul is the only type of soul in greece, because he is the lord of the dead, what other type of soul is there? "sigh"

No, go and read a defintion, unlimited or infnite power is omnipotence, all of that so called evidence is hyperbole from an uncanon to lore gameplay guide.

I think that means that Dante has unlimited inner power to draw from, but it is still obviously limited by his abilities/skills.

indeed, like mages and wizards, their magic energy is usually infnite but they cant use it to use greater spells if they do not have the skill

Originally posted by Burning thought
Says anyone with half a brain

A Hades soul is the only type of soul in greece, because he is the lord of the dead, what other type of soul is there? "sigh"

No, go and read a defintion, unlimited or infnite power is omnipotence, all of that so called evidence is hyperbole from an uncanon to lore gameplay guide.

Whatever.

Doesn't prove shit. Still a hypocrite. Cursed soul...soul of the dead(nonething even states it).

Haven't proved it YET. Your bullshit opinion

om·nip·o·tent

om·nip·o·tent [om níppətənt]
adj
all-powerful: possessing complete, unlimited, or universal power and authority

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Yeah, like you claim Kain has unlimited magic.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Whatever.

Doesn't prove shit. Still a hypocrite. Cursed soul...soul of the dead(nonething even states it).

Haven't proved it YET. Your bullshit opinion

om·nip·o·tent

om·nip·o·tent [om níppətənt]
adj
all-powerful: possessing complete, unlimited, or universal power and authority

Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Yeah, like you claim Kain has unlimited magic.

Cursed soul? soul of the dead? their still all Hades because hes the God of the dead....nobody else has souls, your just making up BS, admit your wrong.

"unlimited" power, like what your claiming Dante has in his inner self, but as Artiifical glory pointed out it does not mean the unlimited use of abilities and as I said, its still hyperbole.

I dont claim it.....the lore and the developers themselves do silly, and I dont take hyperbole from gameplay manuels as my main source of canon either.

Why did the Barbarian have them then? Doesn't mean they were Hades' Souls, or it would have been stated. He is the God of the Underworld, Thanatos is the God of the Dead (or Death).

And just because he says it, it's all of a sudden true? Already been prove.

But, yet, you claim he does. Funny, you needed a book to claim that Raziel could switch from the Spectral Realm the the Material Realm. "The role of the Balance Guardians was a reglatory one; their magic influenced the regulation of the other magic in Nosgoth. We can identify three Balance Guardians, pictured above." If you're talking about that, it doesn't prove shit.