Kratos & Dante vs Kain

Started by Burning thought17 pages

Those monsters have never canonically attacked or succeeded in attacking Dantes soul. No repel is a spell just as part of a charcter as any other ability, thing is, its a special shield protecting Kain from harm, powered by magic, RG is just a simple block with Dantes sword. It doesnt matter, he has not shown he can, and reported for flaming.

"er" sums up your entire argument, its just a load of rubbish, tricking Kain as if hes like the mindless Argonax, Kain has shown far more intellect than Dante himself so dont even try tricking anyone.

Soul Reaver is gameplay, though(he still resists 1-shots). So? It's still gameplay and not canon(besides...Dante has Ice Age). Play DMC3(or DMC4), he uses his arm. And blocks ANYTHING, and releases the energy back at that person. Your statement is unbiased. I never flamed you. Anyway, your a little *****, can't handle me so you have to run off to a mod, report me, lol. Still doesn't change i'm owning your ass, hahaha. Just shows how I AM(now you have to make up more lies haha). He got owned by Raziel...easily. More intellect? Haha, no. Dante drops him like he did Argosax...or better yet...JACKPOT.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Soul Reaver is gameplay, though(he still resists 1-shots). So? It's still gameplay and not canon(besides...Dante has Ice Age). Play DMC3(or DMC4), he uses his arm. And blocks ANYTHING, and releases the energy back at that person. Your statement is unbiased. I never flamed you. Anyway, your a little *****, can't handle me so you have to run off to a mod, report me, lol. Still doesn't change i'm owning your ass, hahaha. Just shows how I AM(now you have to make up more lies haha). He got owned by Raziel...easily. More intellect? Haha, no. Dante drops him like he did Argosax...or better yet...JACKPOT.

Like I told you months ago, Ill wait until you mature, I would rather the mods deal with your flaming and chilidsh nature than me trying to teach you lessons about debating, go and create an argument and find evidence instead of just spamming random moves and claiming Dante is immune to things he has zero resistance to.

"Mature" But, yet, your running to mods. Proves you haven't played DMC(or read/watch anime/magna). Couldn't handle me anyway, lol.

How would Kain keep up with the speed at which Dante can move (and attack)?

Originally posted by K1ll3r
How would Kain keep up with the speed at which Dante can move (and attack)?

Kain wouldnt have to, he uses a lot of time powers and his teleportation will make a distance between them whereby Dantes speed will mean little, kain would only have to point in Dantes direction and his TK would stop Dante from moving.

Also Kain has higher durability and survivability than Dante has shown to destroy, Kain can survive through mist to escape Dantes physical weapons (most of them) instantly and is damn quick while in that form ,the element of surprise will always be Kains. I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of Dantes weapons could not even harm Kains body, much less cause permanent damage.

You sir, amaze me. You act as if Dante will sit RIGHT THERE, just to get TKed. Hurt? Raziel's Reavers could hurt Kain, and Dante has those Devil Arms.

He doesnt have to sit anywhere, TK is not a projectile or a beam, its an invisble force and with a wave of Kains hand, Dante is screwed.

So he can TK him if he's moving around him (trickster?) at full speed?

Depends, Trickster sort of teleports Dante, which could sort of break TK imo, since technically for a moment Dante is not in the normal plane, its like a really short ranged teleport, normal speed and such would be useless because he coudnt pick up such speed whle under TK.

If he's moving around, he can't. Because he has to focus on Dante. Which he won't.

He just has to wave his hand in Dantes general direction, he could easily focus on Dante, why wouldnt he? hes not going to likely focus on Kratos....whos going to end up miles away from both Dante and Kain.

BT how can he focus (tk) Dante if he's moving around? Kain has never shown to TK someone...who is moving around at full-speed. Miles away? So now he's running? 😆

When has Kain ever had to focus? with Moebius he just threw out his hand and Moebius was under the control of his TK. Being miles away is not running, running would be if he actually fled the battlefield, if all hes doing is making distance os he can screw his enemies over with ease and without problem then hes not fleeing is he.....its like saying any wizard who makes distance between his enemies or an archer is a coward just because they need distance for their powers.

You cannot TK someone right off the bat. When has ANYONE ever TKed someone without focusing? Lol, "miles away." It isn't NOT running, either. You said "miles" that is my point. He focused on Moebius. Throwing some stick away doesn't mean he wasn't focusing(and a stick...is entirely different than a human). Oh, Dante already fought someone with TK.

YouTube video

0:22

Kain does not even concentrate, focus all he does is move his hand, which is all he will have to do if Dante is coming at him. And he did not focus on moebius, all he did was use TK, it took zero focus at all, it took a whim to do it, sure, it didnt happen by itself but it still did not take focus.

Kain could easily desimate both these foes and many more just by getting out of their range through teleporting and decimate them with his many spells.

How do you know if he didn't concentrate? He was outright focusing on Moebius. He can't TK someone if he is moving around. When has Kain TKed someone without concentrating on them? Even in gameplay he has to focus on them. And he REALLY can't TK him if he's flying.

Originally posted by Burning thought
create real whirling flames with agni and Rudra Dante takes almost as long

coQf1i5nyF0&NR=1 @0:35 or 0:14(it happens in an instant)(besides, Dante can attack immaterial beings)

Originally posted by Gumachi
How do you know if he didn't concentrate? He was outright focusing on Moebius. He can't TK someone if he is moving around. When has Kain TKed someone without concentrating on them? Even in gameplay he has to focus on them. And he REALLY can't TK him if he's flying.

Your making up nonsense again, nobody is concentrating at all, Kains simply moving his hand and moebius is in the air, his staff was in the air etc. And now your saying kain couldnt TK dante just because he is flying? I hope you have a good explanation for this.....

And that video does not display the Agni/Rudra fire whirlwind......thats just the fire explosion, the whirewind is when he has both of them in front of him and spins them, creating a whirewind in front of him, if you talking about that move then it has next to zero range...thats useless against Kain in mist form or any form tbh.

I think what Gumachi is trying to say is, Dante can exert force enough to escape Kains TK force, surely it would slow him down though.