didn't find the orginal time stop but i did find his great speed run
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If the writers didn't intend for Link to be made to look as strong as he IS, why is he able to physically overpower GANON of all people when they are sword locked? Or sumo wrestle gorons, or casually toss charging goat things aside or any of his strength feats in TP?
Also Zero didn't stop time in any Megaman X 1-6 game which I have beaten and own all of them... Which one did he do it in, and if he has this incredible power why doesn't he just beat Sigma with it all the time?
I must say that Zero has come back from ridiculous damage before (X5 anyone?) but Zero doesn't really stand a chance against Link in this matchup.
Not that I know what sort of science fiction technology Zero is based on, but I work with computers/electronics everyday and the hardware involved is always a very fragile thing. One small voltage change here or there, one busted capacitor and things go all wrong.
Originally posted by Cynerreploids are not like that. and what are the conditions of him throwing that goron with the gauntlets i presume. zero's saber can change into many things to suit his needs.
This discussion is full of lulz.If the writers didn't intend for Link to be made to look as strong as he IS, why is he able to physically overpower GANON of all people when they are sword locked? Or sumo wrestle gorons, or casually toss charging goat things aside or any of his strength feats in TP?
Also Zero didn't stop time in any Megaman X 1-6 game which I have beaten and own all of them... Which one did he do it in, and if he has this incredible power why doesn't he just beat Sigma with it all the time?
I must say that Zero has come back from ridiculous damage before (X5 anyone?) but Zero doesn't really stand a chance against Link in this matchup.
Not that I know what sort of science fiction technology Zero is based on, but I work with computers/electronics everyday and the hardware involved is always a very fragile thing. One small voltage change here or there, one busted capacitor and things go all wrong.
No, TP Link never gets any strength enhancing items, Phanteros. He's just naturally that strong. My personal theory is that Nintendo retconned it so that the Triforce of Courage makes him that strong, but why he's that strong is irrelevant, because he is, regardless of why.
Edit; Furthermore, reploids tend to be hindered by missing limbs.
Originally posted by CynerYes. Yes it is.
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Originally posted by CynerIt seems the Iron Boots are an integral part of Link being able to match the Gorons. Try to get past them without them. It doesn't work so well. I'm not saying that Link isn't superhumanly strong, but he does seem to require the assistance of an item to hang with some of those guys.
If the writers didn't intend for Link to be made to look as strong as he IS, why is he able to physically overpower GANON of all people when they are sword locked? Or sumo wrestle gorons, or casually toss charging goat things aside or any of his strength feats in TP?
Originally posted by CynerIf you have all the X games, then you should be well aware that Zero can stop time in X5 with the Dark Hold. You should also be aware that the reason Zero cannot simply brush Sigma aside with a Time Stop is because Sigma invented the Dark Hold. He knows how it works and has made himself immune to its effects.
Also Zero didn't stop time in any Megaman X 1-6 game which I have beaten and own all of them... Which one did he do it in, and if he has this incredible power why doesn't he just beat Sigma with it all the time?
Originally posted by CynerZero walked away from orbital re-entry and returned from having over half his body blown away. His body has a self-repair system that can heal itself. Has TP Link ever recovered from having the lower half of his body disintegrated? In the Mega Man Zero series, Zero road a nuke to ground zero with Omega as its warhead and walked away from the blast. TP Link ain't touching Zero's durability with his standard equipment.
I must say that Zero has come back from ridiculous damage before (X5 anyone?) but Zero doesn't really stand a chance against Link in this matchup.
Originally posted by CynerZero's body is complex enough to be constructed from DNA. He can soak damage from lightning and cannot be shut down by EMPs. He bears little resemblance to the technology we have today.
Not that I know what sort of science fiction technology Zero is based on, but I work with computers/electronics everyday and the hardware involved is always a very fragile thing. One small voltage change here or there, one busted capacitor and things go all wrong.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot so much. During "the Day of Sigma: X was missing an arm and still scarred Sigma face. You're not suggesting that Link would be able to function as well if he had an arm or a leg severed by a beam saber, are you?
Furthermore, reploids tend to be hindered by missing limbs.
Now, I have a couple of questions. First, how is Link going to defend against Zero using the Ordon Shield, since it burns when in contact with fire, which is much cooler than Zero's Z-Buster. Is the Hylian Shield being counted as standard equipment? Could it even defend against a Buster blast? What are its durability feats?
Second, how is Link going to defend against Zero's area attacks? In X2 and X5, Zero has showed the ability to use area attacks (Messenko and Shin-Messenko) as a part of his standard abilities. Nothing Link carries can stop an area attack.
Third, Link has displayed some superhuman strength, but I still don't see him on Zero's level physically. Zero can create earthquakes and shockwaves by punching the ground (X2, X5, Xtreme2). He can punch through over four feet of solid steel. He has been stated to be stronger than Mega Man, who has been shown to lift giant robots and entire sections of the Skull Fortress. What has Link done on that level?
Fourth, how is Link going to be able to defend against Zero's Heat Haze techniques (which is one of his standard abilities in X:Command Mission). With it, Zero attacks in a flurry of after images. Every single image does damage. How does Link counter this?
Fifth, how can you compare Link's battle skill with Zero's? Again, Zero has been fighting (and leading teams of Hunters) constantly for over a century by the year 22XX. TP Link has, at best, been honing his combat skills for a decade.
Sorry gents. No matter how you slice it, I just can't see standard TP Link matching up here. He's awesome, no doubt, but he's no god of destruction.
The only reason Link needs the Iron Boots is because he isn't as heavy as a Goron. If I weigh 300 pounds, and you weigh 150 pounds and we're just as strong as each other, I still beat you in a sumo match.
I think the mayor of Ordon even told Link something along the lines of "You're strong enough to match the Gorons, but you need some extra weight." before he gave Link the Iron Boots.
Link won't need the Iron Boots for Zero, unless he happens to weigh as much as a Goron.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYeah, I've seen your numbers. I hope you'll forgive me if I don't put too much stock in them. I'm not criticizing your technique, its just that you're making fundamental assumptions about the composition of the objects in your calculations (the guys at Stardestroyer.net make exactly the same mistake). You are assuming that you know what those objects are made out of and that you know how fast they are traveling. The truth is, its just a guess.
how about throwing a 200+ ton ball? :]
If you insist on going that route, I'd be happy to calculate how much physical strength Zero would need to cause a shockwave capable of vaporizing titanium from a distance of 60 meters just by punching the ground.
Now, what about all this:
How is Link going to defend against Zero using the Ordon Shield, since it burns when in contact with fire, which is much cooler than Zero's Z-Buster. Is the Hylian Shield being counted as standard equipment? Could it even defend against a Buster blast? What are its durability feats?How is Link going to defend against Zero's area attacks? In X2 and X5, Zero has showed the ability to use area attacks (Messenko and Shin-Messenko) as a part of his standard abilities. Nothing Link carries can stop an area attack.
How is Link going to be able to defend against Zero's Heat Haze techniques (which is one of his standard abilities in X:Command Mission). With it, Zero attacks in a flurry of after images. Every single image does damage. How does Link counter this?
How can you compare Link's battle skill with Zero's? Again, Zero has been fighting (and leading teams of Hunters) constantly for over a century by the year 22XX. TP Link has, at best, been honing his combat skills for a decade.
Yeah, I've seen your numbers. I hope you'll forgive me if I don't put too much stock in them. I'm not criticizing your technique, its just that you're making fundamental assumptions about the composition of the objects in your calculations (the guys at Stardestroyer.net make exactly the same mistake). You are assuming that you know what those objects are made out of and that you know how fast they are traveling. The truth is, its just a guess.This is why I round all my numbers down, so if I err I err on the conservative side. Gorons are stated to be made of stone, they're far from styrofoam.
How can you compare Link's battle skill with Zero's? Again, Zero has been fighting (and leading teams of Hunters) constantly for over a century by the year 22XX. TP Link has, at best, been honing his combat skills for a decade.Link's preternaturally skilled with all weapons, within minutes of getting the bow he can peg an inch thick pole at about a kilometer's distance. Then he proceeds to beat Ganon in a sword fight.
As to Zero disintegrating titanium[which is structurally weaker than steel, just lighter.]vid plx?