Originally posted by psycho gundam
imo scathan isn't more powerful than a normal celestial, his authority however is high enough to fill in for a stymied LT. if the LT deems something out of the grand design, it gets dealt with, but since nobody is allowed do interfere and the muzzle thing is kinda sketchy.....mandrakk for the win.
i actually agree with . . . ALL of that. 😱
that whole gotg arc was just odd. STILL not sure how protege copied LT but didn't/couldn't copy scathan. just seemed weird to me too. 😬
Originally posted by Enyalus
Err, there were two Mandrakks? Where was that stated?I just assumed it was the same Mandrakk from Superman Beyond who came back for more punishment in FC 7?
Novu fell into the ovoid, the source of creation (the mind of the monitor). Ogama took up the mantle after he'd been banished to limbo by his peers and he transformed Ultraman into his vampire superman.
Originally posted by psycho gundamHow is he not more powerful when he energy muzzled someone powerful enough to scare the shit out of Eternity?
imo scathan isn't more powerful than a normal celestial, his authority however is high enough to fill in for a stymied LT. if the LT deems something out of the grand design, it gets dealt with, but since nobody is allowed do interfere and the muzzle thing is kinda sketchy.....mandrakk for the win.
How does Mandrakk win?
Originally posted by quanchi112cause the lt will be presumable still functional and in full authority in his realm, so scathan is without whatever amp the oaa gave it (or whatever it did). scathan is going solo here under his own power.
How is he not more powerful when he energy muzzled someone powerful enough to scare the shit out of Eternity?How does Mandrakk win?
didn't you think it was a bit odd that scathan came out of nowhere when the lt was stalemated in power? like what prompted it to act at that crucial moment and no other time ever before...like..during the ig saga?????
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i have an idea!... in the ig trilogy, the lt was never usurped or in danger, and since there IS NO BEING IN BETWEEN THE LT AND TOAA another had to act as the decision maker for the lt to act.
Lt probably can't judge a superior being, or one exactly like him, it creates a 404 error or something. someone else charged by the oaa has to tip the scale of justice..literally.
Originally posted by psycho gundamMaybe scathan didn't exist than you do know that scathan is from the future. Also just because "said" abstracts don't show up to protect multiversal destruction does not mean they don't exist or are less powerful. Writer have chosen when to include them and when not to.
cause the lt will be presumable still functional and in full authority in his realm, so scathan is without whatever amp the oaa gave it (or whatever it did). scathan is going solo here under his own power.didn't you think it was a bit odd that scathan came out of nowhere when the lt was stalemated in power? like what prompted it to act at that crucial moment and no other time ever before...like..during the ig saga?????
Like the M crystal for example
Originally posted by psycho gundamWho said he was amped? Where are you getting this from?
cause the lt will be presumable still functional and in full authority in his realm, so scathan is without whatever amp the oaa gave it (or whatever it did). scathan is going solo here under his own power.didn't you think it was a bit odd that scathan came out of nowhere when the lt was stalemated in power? like what prompted it to act at that crucial moment and no other time ever before...like..during the ig saga?????
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i have an idea!... in the ig trilogy, the lt was never usurped or in danger, and since there IS NO BEING IN BETWEEN THE LT AND TOAA another had to act as the decision maker for the lt to act.
Lt probably can't judge a superior being, or one exactly like him, it creates a 404 error or something. someone else charged by the oaa has to tip the scale of justice..literally.
I know a lot of people have a problem with a Celestial being powerful enough to take on someone with Lt- like power, but it is what it is. We must all accept it.
Scathan FTW.
Scathan stomped the combined power of,
GOTG (meh, but still, it was all of them)
Mephisto & his daughter Malevolence (not a wow, but no pushovers either)
post-Beyonder (multi-Universal power)
Hawkgod (a Multiversal power below Eternity)
Eternity (all that ever was, is or will be)
... and TWO freakin Living Tribunals (need I say more?)
Scathan stomped all that power with a single simple gesture.
btw. Scathan is 100% canon,
as he appeared in an official Marvel arc, (not some dumbass cross-over)
was mentioned in a separate official Marvel arc, (not another dumbass crossover)
and was referenced in Two official Marvel Handbooks (LT's and Celestials'😉
and both bios basically confirm Scathan's feat mentioned above.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan FTW.Scathan stomped the combined power of,
GOTG (meh, but still, it was all of them)
Mephisto & his daughter Malevolence (not a wow, but no pushovers either)
post-Beyonder (multi-Universal power)
Hawkgod (a Multiversal power below Eternity)
Eternity (all that ever was, is or will be)
... and TWO freakin Living Tribunals (need I say more?)Scathan stomped all that power with a single simple gesture.
btw. Scathan is 100% canon,
as he appeared in an official Marvel arc, (not some dumbass cross-over)
was mentioned in a separate official Marvel arc, (not another dumbass crossover)
and was referenced in Two official Marvel Handbooks (LT's and Celestials'😉
and both bios basically confirm Scathan's feat mentioned above.
nice...
Originally posted by Mr Master👆
Scathan FTW.Scathan stomped the combined power of,
GOTG (meh, but still, it was all of them)
Mephisto & his daughter Malevolence (not a wow, but no pushovers either)
post-Beyonder (multi-Universal power)
Hawkgod (a Multiversal power below Eternity)
Eternity (all that ever was, is or will be)
... and TWO freakin Living Tribunals (need I say more?)Scathan stomped all that power with a single simple gesture.
btw. Scathan is 100% canon,
as he appeared in an official Marvel arc, (not some dumbass cross-over)
was mentioned in a separate official Marvel arc, (not another dumbass crossover)
and was referenced in Two official Marvel Handbooks (LT's and Celestials'😉
and both bios basically confirm Scathan's feat mentioned above.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Scathan FTW.Scathan stomped the combined power of,
GOTG (meh, but still, it was all of them)
Mephisto & his daughter Malevolence (not a wow, but no pushovers either)
post-Beyonder (multi-Universal power)
Hawkgod (a Multiversal power below Eternity)
Eternity (all that ever was, is or will be)
... and TWO freakin Living Tribunals (need I say more?)Scathan stomped all that power with a single simple gesture.
btw. Scathan is 100% canon,
as he appeared in an official Marvel arc, (not some dumbass cross-over)
was mentioned in a separate official Marvel arc, (not another dumbass crossover)
and was referenced in Two official Marvel Handbooks (LT's and Celestials'😉
and both bios basically confirm Scathan's feat mentioned above.
So Scathan is above LT to you. 🤨
EDIT: Anyway Mandrakk is above the multiverse, he's a hyper evolving story that destroys other stories i.e. he makes himself stronger than whatever story opposesses him. He'll drink Scathan's story for breakfast.
Originally posted by AllanklesHe failed to make himself stronger than Superman so I fail to see your point. Scathan has dealt with bigger fish.
So Scathan is above LT to you. 🤨EDIT: Anyway Mandrakk is above the multiverse, he's a hyper evolving story that destroys other stories i.e. he makes himself stronger than whatever story opposesses him. He'll drink Scathan's story for breakfast.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He failed to make himself stronger than Superman so I fail to see your point. Scathan has dealt with bigger fish.
If you have an argument let's hear it, this doesn't qualify.
CA Supes was the embodiment of a story created to be unstoppable and indestructable. Novu's final gift, a living weapon capable adapting instantly to counter any threat. A sentinel suit designed for a single purpose. To protect all of existence against the ultimate enemy.
All Mandrakk has to do is drink Scathan's story dry until there's no memory of him.
Originally posted by AllanklesLt is above any plot device basically though. This is still something that can be countered and Lt is arguably more powerful than the ig which was capable of anything.
If you have an argument let's hear it, this doesn't qualify.CA Supes was the embodiment of a story created to be unstoppable and indestructable. Novu's final gift, a living weapon capable adapting instantly to counter any threat.
Scathan rivaled the Lt in power and defeated a being who copied the Lt's powers. It's a stomp.