Scathan vs. Mandrakk

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lt is above any plot device basically though. This is still something that can be countered and Lt is arguably more powerful than the ig which was capable of anything.

Scathan rivaled the Lt in power and defeated a being who copied the Lt's powers. It's a stomp.

I don't think Scathan is on Lt's level but you're welcome to that idea (naturally).

It's not something that can be countered by some energy damping celestial, Novu is a super adapting story, that's what he is.

He feeds on story, the dramas, their very reality, that's what Monitors do and Novu was the greatest of Monitors, he created the Cosmic Armor before he became an outcast after all.

The only thing that affected the Monitor's was story, the overaching sagas that affect living things, this is what made them the indivduals they are now. Novu was the part of the Prime Monitor that felt contaminated by this 'story', hence the reason he wanted to devour all reality until there was nothing left but Mandrakk.

Also, LT is immune to plot devices? HOTU.

Originally posted by Allankles
I don't think Scathan is on Lt's level but you're welcome to that idea (naturally).

It's not something that can be countered by some energy damping celestial, Novu is a super adapting story, that's what he is.

He feeds on story, the dramas, their very reality, that's what Monitors do and Novu was the greatest of Monitors, he created the Cosmic Armor before he became an outcast after all.

The only thing that affected the Monitor's was story, the overaching sagas that affect living things, this is what made them the indivduals they are now. Novu was the part of the Prime Monitor that felt contaminated by this 'story', hence the reason he wanted to devour all reality until there was nothing left but Mandrakk.

Imo the muzzle is all that is required.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Also, LT is immune to plot devices? [b]HOTU. [/B]

I for one really don't believe Scathan was above the LT at all. He never faced protege one v one. Protege was dealing with the LT and was attacked from behind and muzzled so he couldn't see and then that gave the LT time to do what he did. To me it clearly seemed like Scathan was sent there by the TOAA to do exactly what he did. LT's power had been duplicated and thus he wasn't the one authority anymore and thus Scathan was needed to preserve his role as such. Again though imo Scathan isn't above the LT.

Opinions this, opinions that ...

when the bottom Marvel fact line is ...

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Originally posted by Mr Master

Scathan FTW.

Scathan stomped the combined power of,

GOTG (meh, but still, it was all of them)
Mephisto & his daughter Malevolence (not a wow, but no pushovers either)
post-Beyonder (multi-Universal power)
Hawkgod (a Multiversal power below Eternity)
Eternity (all that ever was, is or will be)
... and TWO freakin Living Tribunals (need I say more?)

Scathan stomped all that power with a single simple gesture.

btw. Scathan is 100% canon,
as he appeared in an official Marvel arc, (not some dumbass cross-over)
was mentioned in a separate official Marvel arc, (not another dumbass crossover)
and was referenced in Two official Marvel Handbooks (LT's and Celestials'😉
and both bios basically confirm Scathan's feat mentioned above.

The muzzle was an after affect of Scathan's decision.

Now, seriously, whoever doesn't enjoy this truth,
can just email Marvel and complain,
but please yall.
let's stop speculating with unsupported opinions over Marvel on panel,
confirmed in Marvel HandbookS,
100% canon facts.

^ You sound like those guys who are trying to sell 100% pure beef.

Ya I agree. I don't know why people are making such a big deal when Scathan was portrayed> LT on panel

Fiction is fiction I guess, so Scathan > LT.

Mandrakk still feeds on his story though.

Mandrakk would be feeding through a straw when this battle ended.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Mandrakk would be feeding through a straw when this battle ended.

Originally posted by Allankles
Fiction is fiction I guess, so Scathan > LT.

Mandrakk still feeds on his story though.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wow that is such BS. By that logic you can just say that no matter what the matchup is. Mandrakk vs. TOAA? Eats his story. Mandrakk vs. your mom? Eats the story. Dumb.

Considering what Mandrakk is.......pretty much anyone short of TOAA/The Presence is going to lose.

The original Monitor is basically the Presence. The 52 monitors are different aspects of him that he created to study the multiverse. They were changed by the nature of the stories. Dax Novu believed it was contaminating them and corrupting them. As a result, the Monitor's belief turned him into a monster that fed on the story of the multiverse. Mandrakk the Dark Monitor. And as he was beyond the monitors and part of GOD, he was unstoppable by any lesser being. The armor that Superman used to stop him was created by Dax Novu himself before his fall.

Mandrakk was a god beyond even the likes of HOTU.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wow that is such BS. By that logic you can just say that no matter what the matchup is. Mandrakk vs. TOAA? Eats his story. Mandrakk vs. your mom? Eats the story. Dumb.

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Wow that is such BS. By that logic you can just say that no matter what the matchup is. Mandrakk vs. TOAA? Eats his story. Mandrakk vs. your mom? Eats the story. Dumb.

The mom part totally made sense. 🙄

But yeah he eats fictional stories. If he's fictional Mandrakk drinks up everything that makes him exist, extinguishing him completely.

It's about to get real stupid in here.

Originally posted by Allankles
The mom part totally made sense. 🙄

But yeah he eats fictional stories. If he's fictional Mandrakk drinks up everything that makes him exist, extinguishing him completely.

😆 i don't understand what u r saying but somehow it made me laugh..

Originally posted by Mindset
It's about to get real stupid in here.

Already has.

Yo Mindset, don't you ever sleep?

To the Monitors all of creation is miniture in scale. A fountain of story for them to feed on.

Here Mandrakk promises to devour all of creation.

No

The Monitors are fundamental beings, the authors of existence with the multiverse resulting as a "flaw" within the primal monitor, this flaw caused an infection called 'story' and from then the Monitors were forever transformed developing individual unique forms (the 52 Monitors).

That I have to explain this to people arguing for Scathan is ridiculous.