Ultimate Marvel Herald vs Ultimate DC Herald

Ultimate Marvel Herald (UMH)

* Silver Surfer's body, attributes, and power cosmic
- Thor's magic capabilities and Mjolnir
- Hulk's healing factor and rage amping ability (both durability and strength)
- Blackbolt's powers

vs

Ultimate DC Herald (UDH)

* Superman's body and attributes (and elimination of weaknesses to magic, kryptonite and sunlight)
- Firestorm's powers
- Hal Jordan's GL Ring and skillset and mastery of its powers
- Martian Manhunter's powers

UMH FTW.

UDH because

- Firestorm's powers
- Hal Jordan's GL Ring and skillset and mastery of its powers
- Martian Manhunter's powers

is better than

- Thor's magic capabilities and Mjolnir
- Hulk's healing factor and rage amping ability (both durability and strength)
- Blackbolt's powers

Originally posted by Spire
UDH because

- Firestorm's powers
- Hal Jordan's GL Ring and skillset and mastery of its powers
- Martian Manhunter's powers

is better than

- Thor's magic capabilities and Mjolnir
- Hulk's healing factor and rage amping ability (both durability and strength)
- Blackbolt's powers

😂 @ Firestorm's powers being better than Mjolnir's.

UMH stomp..100/10...

He didn't give Superman any weakness here. He also has GL to help him.

It's not a stomp. I just feel that Surfers set doesn't give him as much.

Originally posted by Spire
He didn't give Superman any weakness here. He also has GL to help him.

It's not a stomp. I just feel that Surfers set doesn't give him as much.

Power Cosmic + BB Scream + Mjolnir + Hulk HF doesn't give much???

i was joking when i said it's a stomp..but UMH still win 10/10..

Originally posted by Enyalus
😂 @ Firestorm's powers being better than Mjolnir's.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Power Cosmic + BB Scream + Mjolnir + Hulk HF doesn't give much???

i was joking when i said it's a stomp..but UMH still win 10/10..

What is the point of Thor's Magic and Mjolnir when you already have PC?

Hulk HF? That's the tie breaker right there!

"Oh no I got a bump on my head, I'm going to lose. Oh wait I have HF. Yay, I'm going to live."

Also, he took away Superman weaknes exploit as well.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😂 @ Firestorm's powers being better than Mjolnir's.

Never implied that.

I was pointing out I believe the second set adds more than the first.

Originally posted by Spire
What is the point of Thor's Magic and Mjolnir when you already have PC?

Hulk HF? That's the tie breaker right there!

"Oh no I got a bump on my head, I'm going to lose. Oh wait I have HF. Yay, I'm going to live."

Also, he took away Superman weaknes exploit as well.

he can channel PC through Mjolnir making it more powerful maybe..

with the HF..he can heal from virtually any wound..add PC to that..

Superman weakness doesn't mean anything..SS can beat Supes without using any weakness exploitation..

Hulk's Rage plus power cosmic amp plus BB's scream plus Mjolnir = pwn

Originally posted by Slaanesh
he can channel PC through Mjolnir making it more powerful maybe..

with the HF..he can heal from virtually any wound..add PC to that..

Superman weakness doesn't mean anything..SS can beat Supes without using any weakness exploitation..

Basically it's all PC. Which Surfer already has.

As for Mjolnir... What makes Thor what/who he is? Him or his hammer.

Not sure HF will matter here. KO is the name of the game.

I don't see Surfer taking Superman without weakness exploit, but regardless he is still going to have to work harder with this stip.

I don't think his set works as well for him as Superman's and the weakness exploit is another chip in the pile.

Gob Blast/Transmutation/Dimensional Travel is all his hammer.

Probably some other stuff that I didn't think of.

Originally posted by Mindset
Gob Blast/Transmutation/Dimensional Travel is all his hammer.

God Blast is Thor's life force.

I don't think the godblast is an option here. He is still no Thor

Originally posted by Spire
God Blast is Thor's life force.

Originally posted by Spire
Basically it's all PC. Which Surfer already has.

As for Mjolnir... What makes Thor what/who he is? Him or his hammer.

Not sure HF will matter here. KO is the name of the game.

I don't see Surfer taking Superman without weakness exploit, but regardless he is still going to have to work harder with this stip.

I don't think his set works as well for him as Superman's and the weakness exploit is another chip in the pile.

no..it's PC + some other awesome power..

i put my bet on his hammer..Thor without his hammer is like Hercules..

it's hard to KO people with HF..add SS durability to that..

Surfer will beat any Herald type for majority..with or without weakness exploitation..Surfer is the top Herald type char there is..

Originally posted by Mindset
His life force channeled through Mjolnir.

Cool.

No Thor life force, No Godblast.