Ultimate Marvel Herald vs Ultimate DC Herald

Originally posted by Enyalus
Would you like to make an actual argument to back up your case or just stick with the trolling?

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Read the whole thread so I don't have to copy and paste things for you.

This was my first post:

So basically it's Surfer w/ Hulk's strength and Healing factor, mastery over Mjolnir + other magical capabilities of Thor, and BB energy output/scream

vs.

Superman w/ Firestorm transmutation/ matter manipulation abilities, mastery over a GL Ring, and MM's TP, Intangibility, shapeshifting, and phasing.

To me it's a toss up.

Surfer can amp his strength via PC to reach Hulk's upper levels much quicker. Plus he has many of the power sets of these other characters due to PC such as transmutation/matter manipulation abilities, TP, Intangibility, phasing plus a ridiculous energy output only amplified by BB's ability. To top it off he has a very useful and versatile powerset with Thor's capabilities which grant him access to mystical elements.

On the other hand, there's Supes with ability to fuel himself with yellow sunlight on a constant basis granting him an incredible amount of power. Ultimately, you're left with a Suped up Surfer with incredible reaction time, ridiculous strength, and a GL Ring.

Both kind of sound the same to me.

The X-Factors, IMO, are Mjolnir and the GL Ring.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Or 3: You're a DC Fanboy

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Originally posted by Bouboumaster The foursome of Marvel is just more powerful that the one of DC.
Unless you want to argue that Hal Jordan is more powerful that Surfer, Sups stronger that Hulk or Firestorm more powerful that Thor.

The two amalgams are basically the same, but Marvel have the edge in the power, thanks to the foursome who is used to make him. [/B]

You say the two amalgams are basically the same, then you proceed to call it a stomp. Please explain that to me.

The only thing I was arguing is that it's not a stomp.

And Superman is stronger than Hulk. 😛

Originally posted by nimbus006
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You say the two amalgams are basically the same, then you proceed to call it a stomp. Please explain that to me.

The only thing I was arguing is that it's not a stomp.

And Superman is stronger than Hulk. 😛

The two amalgams are the same, but Marvel is more powerful. That's it. DC haven't nothing on Marvel in this match.

Oh, and Hulk smash puny kryptonian. 🤘

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's moved warworld

Originally posted by Raoul
and vice versa.

...Could do a feat war though. Might need Rage's help with the scans tho. 😛

UMH 7-8/10.

I have seen people saying that thors abilities are a non factor here and to say that they must be extremely confused. Thors abilities are a huge advantage in regards to offensive output and energy absorption as he is the most impressive out of any on the battlefield in these areas.(in regards to energy absorption BY FAR the most impressive). When u then add in BBs voice and energy absorption abilities as well as surfers huge poweroutput and energy absorption abilities, the UMH has the clear advantage here.

Nextly, there is the issue of matter/energy manipulation. While both sides are impressive in this regard, the UMH is once again superior with Surfer (best matter/energy manipulator on the field), Thor and BB. This combination is clearly superior to Firestorm and GL.

Even physically, the UDH doesnt necessarilly have the advantage. While a superman being amped by Firestorm and GL would be a monster physically he is certainly matched if not exceeded by the UMH, who will be amped by Surfer,Blackbolt AND the Hulk as well and he will only get stronger,faster, and more durable as the fight goes on. Further with his vastly superior energy absorption abilities the UMH can likely block off or at least greatly hinder the UDH supply of sunlight thereby constantly weakening him.

To sum it up UMH wins because of greater matter/energy manip abilities,offensive output,defensive capabilities (Thor/Surfer/BB) and at least on par physical attributes.