Why do everybody just keeps talking "Sutfer this, surfer that"? Ot apply Surfer's character to amalgam???
BB's scream has the highest energy output then everything else (except maybe hulk's strenchth).
PC is limited and can be exhausted, by itself. Add Gamma Rage (tm) and T3H scream, and it never ends ))
Surfer uses his board as weapon, like, always. If the amalgam has T3H hammer, he uses it.
And one-shots DC amalgam. Too much power to cope with.
UMH FTW.
HULK's power source (infinite) + PC to manipulate, channel and amp it + Mjolnir to conduct it and/or contain it (hammer blows) = total ownage.
nothing UDH can do to even hurt UMH (Hulk's insanely powerful HF - Maestro resurrected from the dead by it! - added to Surfer's ability to heal - Surfer healed Thor! - would make UMH unkillable), attempting to runaway would be futile too as Thor + Surfer can traverse dimensions at will and Surfer is far faster than anyone else here.
UMH stomp ✅
For those who are selling UDH short:
remember, Superman can now self-amp his powers with Firestorm's powers...so that would be pretty devastating
second, with MM's intangibility ability, Superman can easily avoid BB's scream
godblast wouldn't even be a viable attack imo because Superman is way too fast to be hit by an attack that has lag time
so don't understand UDH
Surfer can easily siphon off Superman's solar energies... also, because Surfer is imbued with the Hulk's dynamic strength, durability and healing, he can do so indefinitely (no limit).
I think you've created a monster that cannot be beaten, by combining Surfer + Hulk. just give Hulk superman's speed, flight and range attack options and Hulk would own almost every herald out there, so giving him Surfer's attributes >>> every herald known to mankind.
Originally posted by Starscream M
For those who are selling UDH short:remember, Superman can now self-amp his powers with Firestorm's powers...so that would be pretty devastating
second, with MM's intangibility ability, Superman can easily avoid BB's scream
godblast wouldn't even be a viable attack imo because Superman is way too fast to be hit by an attack that has lag time
so don't understand UDH
he can also amp using a gl ring. if hal can amp himself to superman level strength, then i can only imagine what it would do for Superman's physiology.
he could also rewrite his DNA to remove weaknesses.
plus, he can constantly bathe his cells in yellow solar energy using firestorm's powers.
suddenly you have an insanely amped, sundipped Superman combined with the rest. should easily be enough to match the opposition, imo.
So basically it's Surfer w/ Hulk's strength and Healing factor, mastery over Mjolnir + other magical capabilities of Thor, and BB energy output/scream
vs.
Superman w/ Firestorm transmutation/ matter manipulation abilities, mastery over a GL Ring, and MM's TP, Intangibility, shapeshifting, and phasing.
To me it's a toss up.
Surfer can amp his strength via PC to reach Hulk's upper levels much quicker. Plus he has many of the power sets of these other characters due to PC such as transmutation/matter manipulation abilities, TP, Intangibility, phasing plus a ridiculous energy output only amplified by BB's ability. To top it off he has a very useful and versatile powerset with Thor's capabilities which grant him access to mystical elements.
On the other hand, there's Supes with ability to fuel himself with yellow sunlight on a constant basis granting him an incredible amount of power. Ultimately, you're left with a Suped up Surfer 😖hifty: with incredible reaction time, ridiculous strength, and a GL Ring.
Both kind of sound the same to me.
The X-Factors, IMO, are Mjolnir and the GL Ring.