Originally posted by Slaanesh
no..it's PC + some other awesome power..i put my bet on his hammer..Thor without his hammer is like Hercules..
it's hard to KO people with HF..add SS durability to that..
Surfer will beat any Herald type for majority..with or without weakness exploitation..Surfer is the top Herald type char there is..
What does the hammer add?
Don't think so man. Can't see surfer bleeding or getting broken bones. KO is the game.
Maybe, but regardless he still is gonna have to work harder.
Originally posted by Spire
What does the hammer add?Don't think so man. Can't see surfer bleeding or getting broken bones. KO is the game.
Maybe, but regardless he still is gonna have to work harder.
it increase attack damage..have u ever play RPG games..when u add weapon to your char..their damage increase 😛
it's not that easy to KO Surfer..he took a blast and punch from T&A and is still conscious and able to fight..add a HF to that kinda durability..u got one though monster to KO..
yeah..it'll be a great fight..
Originally posted by Slaanesh
it increase attack damage..have u ever play RPG games..when u add weapon to your char..their damage increase 😛it's not that easy to KO Surfer..he took a blast and punch from T&A and is still conscious and able to fight..add a HF to that kinda durability..u got one though monster to KO..
yeah..it'll be a great fight..
Supes likes to hit stuff. If we use your RPG(I basically did this as soon as I saw the thread heh) scenario Superman ends up with 'a powerful weapon'.
MM doubles his strength and Firestorm should give him a little bit also.
Also GL ring would give him a suit of armor, sword and shield, etc.
What here adds to Surfer's PC?
For him is just the same PC and a hammer.
Also Surfer can no longer exploit here too...
It's a good fight.
Originally posted by Spire
Supes likes to hit stuff. If we use your RPG(I basically did this as soon as I saw the thread heh) scenario Superman ends up with 'a powerful weapon'.MM doubles his strength and Firestorm should give him a little bit also.
Also GL ring would give him a suit of armor, sword and shield, etc.
What here adds to Surfer's PC?
For him is just the same PC and a hammer.
Also Surfer can no longer exploit here too...
It's a good fight.
Surfer can amp his strength with PC and Hulk rage too..
that armor will be destroy by BB scream ability..
they don't add to his PC..they add to his powerset 😐
not just any hammer..it's Mjolnir..it's a weapon enhanced by Odin..
why do u keep talking about weakness exploit??it's not even that important 😐
Originally posted by Starscream M
Ultimate Marvel Herald (UMH)* Silver Surfer's body, attributes, and power cosmic
- Thor's magic capabilities and Mjolnir
- Hulk's healing factor and rage amping ability (both durability and strength)
- Blackbolt's powersvs
Ultimate DC Herald (UDH)
* Superman's body and attributes (and elimination of weaknesses to magic, kryptonite and sunlight)
- Firestorm's powers
- Hal Jordan's GL Ring and skillset and mastery of its powers
- Martian Manhunter's powers
Originally posted by Spire
He didn't give Superman any weakness here. He also has GL to help him.It's not a stomp. I just feel that Surfers set doesn't give him as much.
Unless the attributes of the amalgams stack together, all the additions really do is make Supes into a physically stronger version of standard Surfer if you think about it.
Originally posted by Slaanesh
Surfer can amp his strength with PC and Hulk rage too..that armor will be destroy by BB scream ability..
they don't add to his PC..they add to his powerset 😐
not just any hammer..it's Mjolnir..it's a weapon enhanced by Odin..
why do u keep talking about weakness exploit??it's not even that important 😐
Oh ok, so this is an ampfest now then? Hulk rage? When. Surfer is a pacifist. Calm and in control. Sure, there is always the possiblity he gets mad but... eh.
BB scream is not gonna bust Hal's constructs. But why would you scream anyways? You are Surfer and you have PC...
You are missing the point PC is his power set. Flying around blowing shit up...
What does the hammer add? Is Surfer now going to want H2H Superman? So it's Thor vs Superman now?
Exploit is important. You bring up Surfer vs Superman, the very first thing that is said is "weakness exploit".
Originally posted by Spire
Oh ok, so this is an ampfest now then? Hulk rage? When. Surfer is a pacifist. Calm and in control. Sure, there is always the possiblity he gets mad but... eh.BB scream is not gonna bust Hal's constructs. But why would you scream anyways? You are Surfer and you have PC...
You are missing the point PC is his power set. Flying around blowing shit up...
What does the hammer add? Is Surfer now going to want H2H Superman? So it's Thor vs Superman now?
Exploit is important. You bring up Surfer vs Superman, the very first thing that is said is "weakness exploit".
what??Surfer is not going to use anything the OP give him??then what's the point on giving him all that extra power..his scream can destroy shit now..of coz he will scream 😐
he got the hammer..what do u think he's going to do with it..if Supes ever got close..he's gonna bust Supes head with it..
yeah.they said that so that it'll be an easy win..without it..SS still win..just not that easy..
Originally posted by Slaanesh
what??Surfer is not going to use anything the OP give him??then what's the point on giving him all that extra power..his scream can destroy shit now..of coz he will scream 😐he got the hammer..what do u think he's going to do with it..if Supes ever got close..he's gonna bust Supes head with it..
yeah.they said that so that it'll be an easy win..without it..SS still win..just not that easy..
Nope and that is my argument.
He won't scream or hammer, when he could use PC instead.