Ultimate Marvel Herald vs Ultimate DC Herald

Originally posted by Starscream M
I've already eliminated all of his weaknesses

all the better.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
UMH in a horrible spite

You're being either irrational or ignorant.

The only way you can consider this spite is if:

1) You're a Marvel (I hate this word) fanboy.

2) You have no clue as to the DC amalgam's power set.

Originally posted by nimbus006
You're being either irrational or ignorant.

The only way you can consider this spite is if:

1) You're a Marvel (I hate this word) fanboy.

2) You have no clue as to the DC amalgam's power set.

Add in the PC's ability to amp one's strength, Hulk's ability to amp his strength, and BlackBolt's ability to amp his strength, and that advantage is quickly nullified.

UMH wins virtually every time.

its not spite, however, UDH starts off at a lower powerset because UMH is just that much better SS>SM. But like someone said it really comes down to the ring and the hammer...

UMH would own UDH. 10/10. Too much ampage, durability and versatility.

Edit. This is not a spitestomp tho. UDH would put up a great fight and will throw the UMH around the first few parts of the fight. A few ampings later and the UMH becomes wayyyy too durable for the UDH to beat.

UMH wins everytime but has to work for it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Goober already covered this. FS, Hal's, and MM's powerset is basically already covered by the Power Cosmic. The only initial advantage the DC amalgam would have is the edge in strength.

Add in the PC's ability to amp one's strength, Hulk's ability to amp his strength, and BlackBolt's ability to amp his strength, and that advantage is quickly nullified.

UMH wins virtually every time.

You're being either irrational or ignorant.

The only way you can consider this spite is if:

1) You're a Marvel (I hate this word) fanboy.

2) You have no clue as to the DC amalgam's power set.

🙂

Originally posted by nimbus006
You're being either irrational or ignorant.

Guys, calm it down.

also, are people assuming the DCH can't amp?

Marvel FTW imo. I'm really unclear how this Marvel Ama can be put down. It already has SS/Thor's/Durability plus the best healing factor in the business in hulk. Plus imo better amping capabilities in SS and Hulk. more power output with Thor+Hammer. I just see team Marvel as better in most aspects of this fight.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
no..it's PC + some other awesome power..

i put my bet on his hammer..Thor without his hammer is like Hercules..

I don't see why the UMH wouldn't just block off or absorb the self-amping of the UDH in the same way that exiled Surfer did to Savage Hulk or current Surfer did to Skaar. Even with the exponential amp that the UDH could exploit, Hulk's attributes also exponentially amp the UMH as well.

At best, it's a stalemate, but that only assumes that the UMH wouldn't use the Power Cosmic, Blackbolt's powers or Mjolnir's powers to manipulate, redirect, contain or block the UDH's energy/power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor can control the weather without Mjolnir. Thor can use other abilities without Mjolnir as well.

I don't see why the UMH wouldn't just block off or absorb the self-amping of the UDH in the same way that exiled Surfer did to Savage Hulk or current Surfer did to Skaar. Even with the exponential amp that the UDH could exploit, Hulk's attributes also exponentially amp the UMH as well.

At best, it's a stalemate, but that only assumes that the UMH wouldn't use the Power Cosmic, Blackbolt's powers or Mjolnir's powers to manipulate, redirect, contain or block the UDH's energy/power.

I agree with this summary. You see One when talking about other stuff besides Odin v. Thanos and Juggs vs. Hulk we get along just fine haha

Originally posted by nimbus006
You're being either irrational or ignorant.

The only way you can consider this spite is if:

1) You're a Marvel (I hate this word) fanboy.

2) You have no clue as to the DC amalgam's power set.

Or 3: You're a DC Fanboy

The foursome of Marvel is just more powerful that the one of DC.
Unless you want to argue that Hal Jordan is more powerful that Surfer, Sups stronger that Hulk or Firestorm more powerful that Thor.

The two amalgams are basically the same, but Marvel have the edge in the power, thanks to the foursome who is used to make him.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Or 3: You're a DC Fanboy

The foursome of Marvel is just more powerful that the one of DC.
Unless you want to argue that Hal Jordan is more powerful that Surfer, Sups stronger that Hulk or Firestorm more powerful that Thor.

The two amalgams are basically the same, but Marvel have the edge in the power, thanks to the foursome who is used to make him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There are lots of people who would argue that part. Lots.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Hm. Going by solo performed feats, I think I could make a case for Hulk being stronger than Supes.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how? supermans feats seem to eclipse hulks

Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 No.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Hm. Going by solo performed feats, I think I could make a case for Hulk being stronger than Supes.

and vice versa.

TC, your UMH takes this 6/10 against your UDH. Surfer's PC is the clincher. A GL ring is infinitely more useful than Mjlonir.

I'd take FS matrix against BB's scream (slight advantage) but you already have a gl ring which kind of shares some abilities.

I'd take MM's powers (telepathy, phasing, mass gaining, shape shifting) over Hulk's and though the HF is limited to a point, it's reenforced by surfer level durability so UMH for a very slight win.

MM's mass gaining and shape shifting would make the UDH quite the monster though.

Actually I think it's a split or slight majority to the UDH. The UMH has Hulk's rage amping, but the UDH has Supes body getting amped as well. The UMH has Hulk's HF, but shape shifting and mass gaining is better damage soak.