Originally posted by Digi
That's a shame. Hopefully you can turn such options off.
Well you can turn it off from what i seen in the custom settings, Cept you can't turn it off on the go as your playing it
also they've put in a new thing called "Focus" which basically lets you see where all the traps are and vases.....you can knock over accidentally and catch the attention of gaurds, More baby sitting.
So my auto-DL email never came, and Amazon isn't showing the pre-order. I'm looking into it before I break down and repurchase it, but I haven't dug in just yet.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Well you can turn it off from what i seen in the custom settings, Cept you can't turn it off on the go as your playing italso they've put in a new thing called "Focus" which basically lets you see where all the traps are and vases.....you can knock over accidentally and catch the attention of gaurds, More baby sitting.
Ridiculous. I want a patch with "Classic Mode" that removes all that nonsense and adds in the original voice actor for Garrett.
Originally posted by Digi
What was Neme's point again? *reads last few pages* ...so, that the new outfit is sh*t?Sure, agreed. But it's meant to be played in first person. What's the big deal?
Finally got around to buying this late last night. Going to finish DLing it tonight. I'm excited to dive in.
Originally posted by NemeBro
To be honest I think the game's going to be dog dick. /shrugs
Have you played through it yet? I can't really get into it with you...I've played all of the Benchmark test so far, but that's about it. So I don't have an opinion. But reviews seem muted but generally favorable. Most of the griping revolves around fans of the classic series not liking some departures they've taken. I'll probably jump on board with some of those kind of complaints, but if it remains atmospheric and exciting, it should be decent.
Preorder was worth it. You get a few issues of a comic that provides background information, the soundtrack, and an exclusive in-game level. Unless Neme's prophecy is completely true, I doubt I'll regret it.
Originally posted by DigiI could have gotten you everything but the in-game level for free if you gave me time.
Have you played through it yet? I can't really get into it with you...I've played all of the Benchmark test so far, but that's about it. So I don't have an opinion. But reviews seem muted but generally favorable. Most of the griping revolves around fans of the classic series not liking some departures they've taken. I'll probably jump on board with some of those kind of complaints, but if it remains atmospheric and exciting, it should be decent.Preorder was worth it. You get a few issues of a comic that provides background information, the soundtrack, and an exclusive in-game level. Unless Neme's prophecy is completely true, I doubt I'll regret it.
Maybe even the in-game level, who knows?
Suppose it's an eye of the beholder thing. Some might say the industry has improved, and even mid-level games are fun. Others might say criticism has softened. Still others might say neither is true, and this game is simply deserving of its rating.
Anyway, that nonsense aside...
Finally got some play time in. The expected gripes - lack of jump at any time, hand-holding with usable objects - are all valid. But the game's atmospheric qualities and production values are quite stunning. It still feels like a Thief game (having played all of them in the series). It just doesn't necessarily have the same level of freedom. If they fixed those two problems, I'd be quite excited at this point. Hell, I even died a couple times after being careless (though to be fair, I'm still getting used to the combat system). The problems are problems, but it's so far enjoyable despite them.
I suppose it's too optimistic to have the kind of freedom from some of the earliest games. I haven't played enough of the game to know for sure, but it seems like even with choice over how we approach a situation, you're still given at most 3 linear options. In the first couple games there were times with 2-3 linear options past a situation. But many, many more where they just sort of put you into a spot with no real "solution" and you just had to improvise. There would be dozens of ways to skin a level. I call that 'organic' freedom for lack of a better term.
To be clear, Thief isn't alone in this problem. And not everyone considers it a problem. I disliked the original Deus Ex (one of the best-reviewed games ever for its time) for much the same reason. Their supposed choices usually amounted to three choices among correct solutions, not a playground for your imagination like many Thief levels turned out to be. Some of my best memories are from improvised guard traps or rope arrow shenanigans (rope arrows have much more limited use in this game), or the "OH HOLY ****" moments as the sprawling levels and inherent difficulty met with my chaotic approach to many situations. If this Thief can recreate a few such moments, it'll go a long way to sating my nostalgia for the series.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I could have gotten you everything but the in-game level for free if you gave me time.Maybe even the in-game level, who knows?
Probably true, but it was cheaper with the preorder. I actually paid less than if I had bought the non-extras version after it came out. Even if you get the other stuff via some other means, it was $5 less. I'm aware of torrents and such; I can get what I need too. But the preorder was a good deal
I just dislike how they decide to do a new game in a certain game franchise, Then decide to put in "baby sitting" gameplay systems to make it easier for new people to get into it
Originally posted by Smasandian
but Thief 4 is a piece of shit.
Maybe it is if you've been a fan of the previous games
But i'm sure you'll give it a high rating going by your previous posts supporting baby sitting in games.
Originally posted by Kazenji
I just dislike how they decide to do a new game in a certain game franchise, Then decide to put in "baby sitting" gameplay systems to make it easier for new people to get into it
I understand the point. There's been a lot of time between games in this series. And not everyone is a pro at video games, but still enjoys playing them. The developers demographic is quite expansive these days, with different generations playing the same things. But like, most games will hold your hand through the tutorial mission, and usually the first occurrence or two of a new gameplay element. But not for the whole game. There's a balance to be struck that's ideal for all, imo.
Originally posted by Kazenji
I just dislike how they decide to do a new game in a certain game franchise, Then decide to put in "baby sitting" gameplay systems to make it easier for new people to get into itMaybe it is if you've been a fan of the previous games
But i'm sure you'll give it a high rating going by your previous posts supporting baby sitting in games.
I'm pretty sure I said I support babying and support games that are hardcore. Why can't we have both?