Shoot 'em up!!!

Started by Robtard10 pages
Originally posted by omgchos
Iv'e never once before shown McClane spite. You should read the post more carefully in future. I simply was showing you the reason why, if McClane met up agianst any of these four, or caught their eye, that he would be no more.

My error, thought it was RJ, he's loaded with McClane anger.

You didn't factor in McClane's greatest asset, what puts him above the others, his epic luck.

The first three you may have some point, though McClane has shown insane resourcefulness, ie taking out anairborne helicopter with a Crown Victoria because his gun wouldn't do. This is just one example that puts him on par with the others.

Swagger in no way would nest up, as he'd betray his position once he shot his first victim and he knows there are several skilled opponents in the mall. Also, McClane outwitted the genius Hans Gruber, a decoy isn't going to fool him or any of the others for that matter.

Originally posted by Robtard
My error, thought it was RJ, he's loaded with McClane anger.

You didn't factor in McClane's greatest asset, what puts him above the others, his epic luck.

The first three you may have some point, though McClane has shown insane resourcefulness, ie taking out anairborne helicopter with a Crown Victoria because his gun wouldn't do. This is just one example that puts him on par with the others.

Swagger in no way would nest up, as he'd betray his position once he shot his first victim and he knows there are several skilled opponents in the mall. Also, McClane outwitted the genius Hans Gruber, a decoy isn't going to fool him or any of the others for that matter.

I have told you more than once that McClane is one of my fave movie badasses, even moreso than Riggs.

Swagger would likely have a few nests around the city, with back doors for escape all planned out. He is s sniper, thats like what he does.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have told you more than once that McClane is one of my fave movie badasses, even moreso than Riggs.

Swagger would likely have a few nests around the city, with back doors for escape all planned out. He is s sniper, thats like what he does.

Your actions don't jive with your words,sir.

Hahahaaa, so know why does just your hero Swagger get prep and the others don't? Isn't this fight inside a mall?

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Originally posted by Robtard
You're the one that not only catered a scenario to McClane's advantage, locked them in a building; a mall no less, as there's plenty of makeshift items to kill someone with (McClane's specialty) in a mall, but then you gave him body armour, meaning he's not likely going down in the first hit, while most of the others are.

Besides McClane killing some of the others (going on the grounds that some will kill each other before McClane does) the old fashioned way with bullets, I see death by: food tray, escalator, elevator, sports gear, flat ware, washing machine, heavy sand-filled ashtray, weed-whacker, exercise bicycle, French Fry fryer, gumballs, book shelves, dropping skylight, planter box, surprise attack from HVAC vents and electric security cart up the ass. I'm sure I missed a few hundred more, but I'm tired right now.

Some of those may very have included death by:

Electric Lady Shave, a child's stationary set (The compass ALONE would be 6 men dead.), Garden Rake, Arc Welder, Skis, big ass Plasma TV, family pack of Yogurt cartons, Microwave+kerosene and nails, a stapler, Mcdonalds meal toy, whatever buzzlightyear figure, marbles, crossbow or other armaments from the hunting shop, a pair shoes, strangulation with answer phone cord/tent guy rope, barbeque scewers, urinal, various mall decorations wielded as clubbing weapons....maybe a huge black rubber cock from a ladies store.
('Lock, stock and two smoking barrels' like death)
Pans and saucepans, forklift truck from the goods-in dept, plates glasses, all the knives in the restaurant shops/kitchen bits, all these things could be used to kill his victims in a way that metaphorically violates their arseholes, and sometimes literally too, but is always entertaining...

See you gotta have that kill charisma too.

Any one can kill, but to kill AND entertain...? Well it goes to McClane every time. Even Bond would have trouble competing with that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have told you more than once that McClane is one of my fave asses, even moreso than Riggs.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Your actions don't jive with your words,sir.

Hahahaaa, so know why does just your hero Swagger get prep and the others don't? Isn't this fight inside a mall?

No, logic dictates my decisions.

First of all, it is no longer in a mall, pay attention. Secondly, Swagger took on a small army while retreating miles away to an extraction point. He is a Marine. He adapts, he improvises, he overcomes.

McClane will never see Swagger. He will be out of range to use his zippo. He will not be able to SUV Swagger. Nor will he see Leon, Vincent, or the Smiths. All he will see is the bright light at the end of the tunnel.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, logic dictates my decisions.

First of all, it is no longer in a mall, pay attention. Secondly, Swagger took on a small army while retreating miles away to an extraction point. He is a Marine. He adapts, he improvises, he overcomes.

McClane will never see Swagger. He will be out of range to use his zippo. He will not be able to SUV Swagger. Nor will he see Leon, Vincent, or the Smiths. All he will see is the bright light at the end of the tunnel.

Firstly to your first part,

1) McClane adapts, improvises and overcomes (three movies more frequently than Swagger) too

2) McClane clearly eats Marines for breakfast.

Second part:

McClane will inadvertantly stumble upon Swagger somehow and destroy him. Its what he does and who he is.

The only bright end of tunnel that Swagger would see is McClanes reopening colon letting light in as he poops, as McClane shits out the eaten remains of Swagger into the toilet bowl the next day.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, logic dictates my decisions.

First of all, it is no longer in a mall, pay attention. Secondly, Swagger took on a small army while retreating miles away to an extraction point. He is a Marine. He adapts, he improvises, he overcomes.

McClane will never see Swagger. He will be out of range to use his zippo. He will not be able to SUV Swagger. Nor will he see Leon, Vincent, or the Smiths. All he will see is the bright light at the end of the tunnel.

Logic is water to your oil, RJ.

I see, had to change the scenario so Swagger could can win, yeah "logic driven" indeed.

Have you not seen any of the Diehard films, especially the last one? His luck ability would pull him through, guns would jam at the right time, ammo would run out, things would explode for no real reason etc.

Going by onscreen feats, McClane is the most resourceful at improvising, tossing and shooting a fire extingusher to [illogically] blow two mercs out the window, perfect timing in running over a fire hydrant to send a water stream up and thereby taking out a merc in a copter, etc. etc. etc.

McClane also "pwned" a ninja girl and took out an F22 Raptor, Swagger my ass.

Originally posted by Robtard
Logic is water to your oil, RJ.

I see, had to change the scenario so Swagger could can win, yeah "logic driven" indeed.

Have you not seen any of the Diehard films, especially the last one? His luck ability would pull him through, guns would jam at the right time, ammo would run out, things would explode for no real reason etc.

I changed the scenario because it was obvious the Smiths pwned the first one. When has McClane ever taken on automatic fire from all directions, RPG fire to boot, while standing out in the open? Never. Watch the ending to Mr. and Mrs. Smith, their final battle trumps anything McClane has ever done. And dont get me started on SEU Smith, he would make McClane his prom date.

That works both ways, when have the others taken out an F22 Raptor, as one example?

Face it, McClane's luck is a marketable feat in here and it counters anything the others can dish out.

Exactly how does Vincent do anything here with just a pistol when half of everyone else has like armor and ARs?

Originally posted by Robtard
That works both ways, when have the others taken out an F22 Raptor, as one example?

Face it, McClane's luck is a marketable feat in here and it counters anything the others can dish out.

How in the hell does that feat count to take out the Smiths, or Swagger?

And BTW, genius, McClane was hanging on for dear life when the F22 took a piece of debris to its engine. McClane did nothing here.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Exactly how does Vincent do anything here with just a pistol when half of everyone else has like armor and ARs?

Cause thats the way RJ likes it gimped.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How in the hell does that feat count to take out the Smiths, or Swagger?

And BTW, genius, McClane was hanging on for dear life when the F22 took a piece of debris to its engine. McClane did nothing here.

And why was that plane and debris there at that place in time?

'Cause of McClane.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Exactly how does Vincent do anything here with just a pistol when half of everyone else has like armor and ARs?
Well, he IS a trained killer, you know. And not everyone has assault rifles and armor, just the lesser skilled combatants, you know, to even the playing field a bit. Plus there is always OSP.

ROFLMAO Mcclane and everybody in that scenario kill 'trained killers'.

Hell their cleaning ladies probably kill trained killers.

Here is Lucy McClane's old pet rabbit.

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IT kills trained killers.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And why was that plane and debris there at that place in time?

'Cause of McClane.

The plane had pwned McClane. Doesnt matter really. No plane here. No zippo or SUV usage. Just skills with a firearm. McClane can point and spray all day, while El Wray, Leon or Swagger will take him out with a head shot. But I am betting you think McClane will survive that.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
ROFLMAO Mcclane and everybody in that scenario kill 'trained killers'.

Hell their cleaning ladies probably kill trained killers.

Nah, they were eurotrash/computer geeks. No one near the caliber of the combatants listed here did he kill. Name one. Go ahead, make shit up.

No. The plane was destroyed.

This is like the times you tried to say that despite Mcclane's clear victory in H2H over ninja Chick, then his having killed her, that somehow she pwned him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, they were eurotrash/computer geeks. No one near the caliber of the combatants listed here did he kill. Name one. Go ahead, make shit up.

WTF lolz Those fort bragg trained guys he killed in DH 2.

So basically...Go watch Die Hard 2.