He's at least as skilled and he's stronger.
Batman arm curled Liam Neeson while hanging off the side of an icy cliff, that's definitely some serious levels of strength.
Ozy picked up a 200+ pound Comedian over his head and toss his ass like a rag doll. He also sent Rorschach and Owl flying with kicks. That's a greater level of strength than the above.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Batman wins with prep and standard equipment.
Not sure about that, as Ozy is an uber-genius, so it stands to reason he'd out-prep the prepper.
What standard equipment of Batman's do you see him winning with? Because Ozy's bullet avoidance is better than Batman's, so a bat-grappler isn't like to make contact.
Well this is going to be in a neutral environment right? If so, Ozy can't choose the location and won't be aware of it anymore than Batman. Thus, both he and Batman will prep based on the others weaknesses.
Batman will upgrade his armor to be more resistent to anything Ozy can bring(Batman survived being burned alive and falling off a several story building).
On the other hand, Ozy was never seen prepping against anyone more high tech than Nite Owl, who just had a laser gun. Batman has a gun that shoots those sticky bombs. Since he is better at stealth, Bats wins.
Did you watch The Watchmen? He out thought Dr. Manhattan and destroyed him temporarily. Considering Dr. Manhattan's level of intelligence and power, that speaks very well for Ozymandias' abilities and is well above anything Batman has done in either BB or TDK.
This is Movie Vs, so Batman can only bring what he showed in the films, including armor. That sticky-bomb-gun isn't going to help him much against a guy who can evade gunfire shot from a gunman standing 15 feet away.
By the same token, we never saw how the device that Adrian made actually interupted Jons precog, so it doesn't matter. He never explained the process of what he actually did to stop Dr Manhattan from knowing, and ultimately Jon could have stopped him from destroying New York if he really wanted to.
Batman has a grappling hook and can fly. He has the tumbler for this if he can bring standard equipment, which would hold up against anything seen in Watchmen. He has arguably similar fighting abilities.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
By the same token, we never saw how the device that Adrian made actually interupted Jons precog, so it doesn't matter. He never explained the process of what he actually did to stop Dr Manhattan from knowing, and ultimately Jon could have stopped him from destroying New York if he really wanted to.Batman has a grappling hook and can fly. He has the tumbler for this if he can bring standard equipment, which would hold up against anything seen in Watchmen. He has arguably similar fighting abilities.
It was explained? Ozy's machine sent out some manner of energy (forget what they named it) who's particles traveled backwards in time; that's the reason why it interrupted Manhattan's ability to see into the future. So he did out think him, if only momentarily.
The Tumbler isn't standard equipment, it's a vehicle. But he would need to it defeat Ozy in an H2H fight. Fighting prowess is probably on par, add Ozy's speed and strength level, Batman goes down, which is the point.
Edit: The OP says "anything goes"; that only helps Ozymandias here, as he's clearly smarter and wealthier, so he'd probably just use his financial influence to bankruplt Wayne.
Originally posted by RobtardThat feat only counts against beings like Dr Manhattan, it means nothing here.
It was explained? Ozy's machine sent out some manner of energy (forget what they named it) who's particles traveled backwards in time; that's the reason why it interrupted Manhattan's ability to see into the future. So he did out think him, if only momentarily.The Tumbler isn't standard equipment, it's a vehicle. But he would need to it defeat Ozy in an H2H fight. Fighting prowess is probably on par, add Ozy's speed and strength level, Batman goes down, which is the point.
Edit: The OP says "anything goes"; that only helps Ozymandias here, as he's clearly smarter and wealthier, so he'd probably just use his financial influence to bankruplt Wayne.
If it's anything goes, then Batman has a major advantage. Detective work is Batmans true strength, and he would figure out what Ozy was planning. If you recall, he figured out Ra's Al Ghuls plot in a matter of seconds in BB. Ozy has never shown this level of foresight because he never had someone who was intellectually similar to him to compete with.
Ozy only showed bullet timing against a bunch of people he was expecting to show up and had known previously. We know nothing about where he learned to fight, while we do know that Bruce got trained by the best assassins in the world.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
That feat only counts against beings like Dr Manhattan, it means nothing here.If it's anything goes, then Batman has a major advantage. Detective work is Batmans true strength, and he would figure out what Ozy was planning. If you recall, he figured out Ra's Al Ghuls plot in a matter of seconds in BB. Ozy has never shown this level of foresight because he never had someone who was intellectually similar to him to compete with.
Ozy only showed bullet timing against a bunch of people he was expecting to show up and had known previously. We know nothing about where he learned to fight, while we do know that Bruce got trained by the best assassins in the world.
Why does out-smarting a god-like being not count here, yet outsmarting a human like Raj Al Ghul count? Considering intelligence, resourcefulness and outright craftiness can make or break this fight?
Again, Ozymandias out-smarting Dr. Manhattan and pulling off a stunt that tricked the entire world and all it's governments out-shadows anything Batman has done(by a lot too), including outwitting Raj Al Ghul.
I'm sorry, he knew the gunman would be coming, that doesn't counter he still ****ing avoided multiple rounds due to sheer speed and skill. Who cares if he was trained by a nun, we saw him fight, we saw his speed and we saw his strength.
What it comes down too, we have two very formidable guys. Ozy is smarter, faster and stronger than Batman, going off movie eats.