Batman (Bale) vs Ozymandias

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
PIS includes people doing nonsensical things when logic would suggest doing something else. The guy Dent was pointing a gun at was clearly insane, and if Dent didn't know, it's either PIS or stupidity.

It makes me wonder why he would even bother running for DA if he knew how corrupt it was. No one intelligent enters the political arena without knowing the old adage about absolute power. So only power hungry people would want to enter the Gotham City government in the first place.

2. Dear God shut the hell up...You do realise that would make the entire plot of the movie completely idiotic right? Joker's plan, Batman's motivation for keeping Dent alive and wanting to pass the torch to him, ALL OF IT is nonsensical if Dent was some corrupt politician. Jesus dude, be quiet. 😬

Eleven pages later this thread still goes on. Batman must really have a supporter here. 🙁

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Haha no. That is CIS. Clearly insane? First of all, insane is not some clearly defined word, not every insane person is insane. Second of all, sure, he came off as mentally unsound, but Dent himself was in a state of panic and stress, he was not thinking totally rationally(but still enough to not take a chance of killing the guy).

2. Dear God shut the hell up...You do realise that would make the entire plot of the movie completely idiotic right? Joker's plan, Batman's motivation for keeping Dent alive and wanting to pass the torch to him, ALL OF IT is nonsensical if Dent was some corrupt politician. Jesus dude, be quiet. 😬

1. Nah, it's PIS as to show Dents precursory fall into his Two Face persona.

Of course insanity has a definition, where have you been? I don't even have to post it for you.

No, and if that's the case than it was a waste of a scene, pointless really. It would only have relevancy if Dent was planning to torture or at least blow the guy with the butt of his gun.

2. Hindsight is 20/20, friend. Don't you know that there are still people who support monarchy, authoritarian government and other kinds of tyrannical nonsense? Batman is a genius, Dent was pretty sharp himself as well, but they just happened to believe in the legitimancy of government. It's not their fault if they were brought up to believe that and had no reason to ever doubt it, though I'm a little suprised Bruce never did. Then again, Nolan dumbed down Batman for some reason.

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this is quite a cheer-upper 💃

Ozy gets his gay dick wet.

Comic Batman stomps Comic Ozy.

Movie Ozy stomps Movie Batman.

Originally posted by Johnny Demonic
Comic Batman stomps Comic Ozy.

Movie Ozy stomps Movie Batman.

Comic Ozy can catch bullets with his bare-hands.

So I disagree, Lasagna Killer.

And comic Batman stands against super powered foes all the time, mr shove your nasty lasagna in other peoples faces.

you mean PIS's on them.
just like most fan faves.

Originally posted by Johnny Demonic
And comic Batman stands against super powered foes all the time, mr shove your nasty lasagna in other peoples faces.

You misspelled "feces", Mr. PMS-Ing Exaggerates.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Comic Ozy can catch bullets with his bare-hands.

So I disagree, Lasagna Killer.

That being said he's the only Watchmen character (discounting Jon of course) who would stand a chance in a fair fight against Batman.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think comic Batman would "stomp" comic Ozy...but let's not kid ourselves...he would beat Ozy decisively. Ozy never fought anyone on or close to Batman's level.

That being said he's the only Watchmen character (discounting Jon of course) who would stand a chance in a fair fight against Batman.

Ozy did outwit Manhattan in the comic too. Let's not forget either, Bane out-played Batman and broke his back. Bane's a genius, sure, but not Ozymandias' level of intellect.

I'd still probably side with Batman in the end, he has 70+ years of material to draw from and there's probably a little bit of fanbatism in my decision.

Who's the wealthier of the two?

Originally posted by Johnny Demonic
And comic Batman stands against super powered foes all the time, mr shove your nasty lasagna in other peoples faces.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ozy did outwit Manhattan in the comic too. Let's not forget either, Bane out-played Batman and broke his back. Bane's a genius, sure, but not Ozymandias' level of intellect.

I'd still probably side with Batman in the end, he has 70+ years of material to draw from and there's probably a little bit of fanbatism in my decision.

Who's the wealthier of the two?

Is it a clever strategy? Yes.

But is it "outwitting"? No.

Not sure who's wealthier tbh.

I said Bane "out-played" Batman; he did.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think comic Batman would "stomp" comic Ozy...but let's not kid ourselves...he would beat Ozy decisively. Ozy never fought anyone on or close to Batman's level.

I disagree. It is Batman that has never fought anyone on Ozy's level. 🙂

They are both master planners and geniuses. But let's not kid ourselvs: Ozy is physically and intellectually superior to Batman.

Let us also not use silly writing PIS that wanks Batman. Batman's comic book feats are among the stupidest most retarded writing out there (Sure, there's really good stories, every now and then...but the retarded stretching done to make Batman even "feasible" to fight against his foes is why I can't really get into it, anymore. Maybe it's because I grew up?)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That being said he's the only Watchmen character (discounting Jon of course) who would stand a chance in a fair fight against Batman.

I disagree.

Pretty much all of the Watchmen characters are on "Batman's" level.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bane didn't outwit Batman. He broke all of Batman's rogues free and then had Batman run himself ragged chasing them before ambushing him and breaking him.

Is it a clever strategy? Yes.

But is it "outwitting"? No.

Not sure who's wealthier tbh.

Yes, outwitting. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, outwitting.

Just because he watched Muhammad Ali fight George Foreman doesn't make him smarter

Originally posted by Lestov16
Just because he watched Muhammad Ali fight George Foreman doesn't make him smarter

Uhhhh... 😕 😕 😕

Your argument is so amazing that I have to concede.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree. It is Batman that has never fought anyone on Ozy's level. 🙂

They are both master planners and geniuses. But let's not kid ourselvs: Ozy is physically and intellectually superior to Batman.

Let us also not use silly writing PIS that wanks Batman. Batman's comic book feats are among the stupidest most retarded writing out there (Sure, there's really good stories, every now and then...but the retarded stretching done to make Batman even "feasible" to fight against his foes is why I can't really get into it, anymore. Maybe it's because I grew up?)

I disagree.

Pretty much all of the Watchmen characters are on "Batman's" level.

Yes, outwitting. 😐

But I get the feeling you're going to call any feat that Batman has that exceeds what Ozy has done "PIS"

Ozy is uber why exactly? He kicked open a locked door, threw a 200 lb man through storm glass...all impressive but really nothing that puts him above a Peak Human like Batman.

Ozy would be fairly unexceptional in the DCU. He'd be R'as Al Ghul without the Lazarus Pits and without the badass facial hair.

LMAO @ Rorschach and Nite-Owl and Silk Spectre being Batman level. Read more comics bruh.

It's not outwitting seeing as Batman didn't even prepare a counter strategy because he didn't know about it...

Didn't Batman sneak into the Watchtower once completely undetected?