Galen Marek vs Yoda

Started by Lord Lucien16 pages

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So explain then why they were never able to do such things outside the cw mini??

why did mace not force crush all the droids on Genosia??

why was Yoda taking out droids commando style in the first episode of the new cw series when all he had to do is use the force to lift them all, and crush their ships against each other??

Why was Cad Bane able to escape from Mace and Obiwan just by having a few lasers start firing at them?? And they had to escape from that room.. Mace culdnt simply crush them!

Use your common sense! They dnt have those powers! Show me the proof anywhere else in the SW Universe that they have those kind of powers!

We never said it was a SMART idea to implement the CW in to canon. Just like it's not a smart idea to implement any of Marek's or Vader's abilities in to canon so close to the saber fight in ANH. But it happened, so come to peace with it.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
We never said it was a SMART idea to implement the CW in to canon. Just like it's not a smart idea to implement any of Marek's or Vader's abilities in to canon so close to the saber fight in ANH. But it happened, so come to peace with it.

ANH was made in 1977, was the first SW film made on a tight budget, so that fight was just down to bad choreography.. And just because Obiwan and Vader were not doing sumersaults and jumping around, doesnt mean they culdnt do those things.

Just look at Vader fighting in ESB and ROTJ, he was miles better than in ANH

However when we've been told on more than one occasion the Force feats in the CW mini are exaggerated, and we can see those feats clearly contradict what the same Jedi's are capable of doing in all other sources, then I would at least hope you guys would have the sense not to compare feats inside that cartoon to feats outside of it when comparing different characters abilities.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
ANH was made in 1977, was the first SW film made on a tight budget, so that fight was just down to bad choreography.. And just because Obiwan and Vader were not doing sumersaults and jumping around, doesnt mean they culdnt do those things.

Just look at Vader fighting in ESB and ROTJ, he was miles better than in ANH

However when we've been told on more than one occasion the Force feats in the CW mini are exaggerated, and we can see those feats clearly contradict what the same Jedi's are capable of doing in all other sources, then I would at least hope you guys would have the sense not to compare feats inside that cartoon to feats outside of it when comparing different characters abilities.

It is C-canon, just like TFU is. You can sit and say how it does not fit with the movies all you want, and we might agree, but we can not change the fact that it is canon? We do not decide what is canon and neither does Filoni.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
ANH was made in 1977, was the first SW film made on a tight budget, so that fight was just down to bad choreography.. And just because Obiwan and Vader were not doing sumersaults and jumping around, doesnt mean they culdnt do those things.

Just look at Vader fighting in ESB and ROTJ, he was miles better than in ANH

However when we've been told on more than one occasion the Force feats in the CW mini are exaggerated, and we can see those feats clearly contradict what the same Jedi's are capable of doing in all other sources, then I would at least hope you guys would have the sense not to compare feats inside that cartoon to feats outside of it when comparing different characters abilities.

The Clone Wars cartoon is C-canon. Deal with it and move on.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66

Actually i would give it to Yoda. Yoda and Marek are pretty close in the force, but Yoda is far greater in sabers.

Agreed

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The Clone Wars cartoon is C-canon. Deal with it and move on.

Ok dnt use common sense then

haha, think your idea of common sense is more important then Lucas's idea of common sense then.

Originally posted by truejedi
haha, think your idea of common sense is more important then Lucas's idea of common sense then.

ah probably is.. although i dnt recall it stating anywhere the force feats in cw mini were all canon..

I only remember people including lucas and filoni saying the force feats in that mini were exagerrated (presumably for entertainment purposes)

It's ALL for entertainment purposes ya jackwagon.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
It's ALL for entertainment purposes ya jackwagon.

Not sure if anyone told you yet.... but..... i t s n o t r e a l... shhhhhh

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
ah probably is.. although i dnt recall it stating anywhere the force feats in cw mini were all canon..

I only remember people including lucas and filoni saying the force feats in that mini were exagerrated (presumably for entertainment purposes)

I don't recall Lucas ever saying that.

Source please.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Ok dnt use common sense then
OK, disobey canon then. Guess you have no place here, considering we obey canon.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
OK, disobey canon then. Guess you have no place here, considering we obey canon.

***k canon... you obey me... you ***king know it.

fullmop

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Not sure if anyone told you yet.... but..... i t s n o t r e a l... shhhhhh

i need a canon quote before I'm going to believe that claim.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
***k canon... you obey me... you ***king know it.

fullmop

Memento mori, my pedigree chum.

^ posted at 4:20 heh heh heh!!

rip1

Originally posted by truejedi
Its all canon, even if it is exaggerated.
Originally posted by truejedi
Absolutely false. They can do those things. In fact, they did them, so there is no really disputing that they are capable.

Absolutely brilliant.

I lift 20 pounds. Then I exeggerate that story, and proclaim that I lifted 20,000 pounds. All over a sudden, I did lift 20,000 pounds. Thanks to truejedi, everybody can be Superman. It just needs a little bit exeggeration to turn everything into reality...

If something is exeggerated and we know that it is, because the creator of a piece of canon told us himself (as it happens in the Clone Wars Volume I DVD commentary), then we do have to think about what is exeggerated and to what extend the original storyline (the basic canon) has been altered. Simply proclaiming "but it's canon" doesn't help. Otherwise anything contained within a canon source is absolute gospel, even when it's stated that it's a lie (e.g. some of Kreia's statements).

You may rename yourself into "truelagoflogic" now. That way, your username can serve as headline to your postings.

Originally posted by Borbarad
...Otherwise anything contained within a canon source is absolute gospel, even when it's stated that it's a lie (e.g. some of Kreia's statements).

It IS absolute gospel that she said those things, whether they are lies or not.

The problem with the exaggeration argument is that we actually see these things occur. IIRC people in TFU (its very name add credence to this) are said to be exaggerated but their feats are still used, becuase we actually see or read what happens directly.