Ganondorf runs a gauntlet.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're wrong, and also a troll. Ganon can block light arrows at point blank, with his back to the person firing them. Disintegrate stone or living beings with single strikes, is stronger than even Link with the golden gauntlets by canon, survive castle busting explosions centered on himself without a scratch, what can Kain possibly hope to achieve other than to run away?

Lol, and you accused me of fanfiction.

You do understand what would happen when Ganon accelerated the atomic speed of those water droplets? Kain'd be done for, thoroughly exploded. More fanfiction, Kain'll never be immune to Ganon.

Lol, blood shower won't work, soul destruction is outclassed, and won't work, time aura involves getting close to Ganon, suicide, Ganon wins. Kain doesn't even belong in this thread.

No not really, so? blocking a few arrows lol....thats reaction speed for one, and second Ive not seen these light arrows. Show me disintegrating stone and he did it to a sage who has an unkown death anyway, he is not made of flesh or blood. What canon states he is stronger than link with the gauntlets? not that that is impressive, the gauntlets are fairly featless. And your just repeating points ive already shattered, Ganon was never physical during the attack and we do not even know if he was hit by it.

Yes I did, you invented the figuires, guessed the type of granite and forgot it was a game with Toonforce elements. You also forgot incosistency, the gauntlets do not do anything else more impressive, infact when Ganon is being slashed he should be launched miles across the landscape if Link was as strong as you invented.

lol coz Ganon is invincibles! Ganon is pathetic in comparison to Kain, its not even a matchup tbh.

None of them are outclassed and the Time aura would take a single teleportation, instantly Kain is next to Ganon who is now moving like hes crawling through thick treacle....hes doomed.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon is pathetic in comparison to Kain, its not even a matchup tbh

Feats and accomplishments disagrees, but hey, who needs them?

Lol, BT thinks he shattered any of my points? He's called the granite, and it's stated to be granite, toonforce, and expected an N64 game to have realistic physics.

Fact 1. It is granite. Nintendo said so.

Fact 2. My numbers, which I apparently invented, are rounded down to the LOWEST POSSIBLE variable, and do not even incorporate the entire volume of the stone lifted. If you think my numbers are wrong, the only possibility is that the stone is infact heavier.

Fact 3. He throws this stone over his shoulder relatively casually, in a very badass looking cinematic with panning cameras to show the entire girth of the massive stone pillar. Toonforce? Lol. OoT Is a serious game, sir.

Fact 4. Ganon is still more physicly powerful than Link.

Fact 5. I took my already ridiculously undercut numbers, and undercut them further, then applied them to Ganon, and he's still strong enough to reduce Kain to paste.

Hell, Ganon picks up a pebble and throws it at Kain, it's too fast for Kain to react, Kain explodes and dies.

Ever seen what happens when a stone the size of a baseball collides with a man at speeds comparable to a satellite in orbit?

Ganon TK's Kain, and throws him to the ground where he splatters.

Heh, looks like I dont even need to comment on this one. Ganon shit stomps Kain. Nice work, ScreamPaste.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Heh, looks like I dont even need to comment on this one. Ganon shit stomps Kain. Nice work, ScreamPaste.

Kain's not a tenth the character he's made out to be.

Agreed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol, BT thinks he shattered any of my points? He's called the granite, and it's stated to be granite, toonforce, and expected an N64 game to have realistic physics.

Fact 1. It is granite. Nintendo said so.

Fact 2. My numbers, which I apparently invented, are rounded down to the LOWEST POSSIBLE variable, and do not even incorporate the entire volume of the stone lifted. If you think my numbers are wrong, the only possibility is that the stone is infact heavier.

Fact 3. He throws this stone over his shoulder relatively casually, in a very badass looking cinematic with panning cameras to show the entire girth of the massive stone pillar. Toonforce? Lol. OoT Is a serious game, sir.

Fact 4. Ganon is still more physicly powerful than Link.

Fact 5. I took my already ridiculously undercut numbers, and undercut them further, then applied them to Ganon, and he's still strong enough to reduce Kain to paste.

Hell, Ganon picks up a pebble and throws it at Kain, it's too fast for Kain to react, Kain explodes and dies.

Ever seen what happens when a stone the size of a baseball collides with a man at speeds comparable to a satellite in orbit?

Ganon TK's Kain, and throws him to the ground where he splatters.

Fact 1: yes but they did not say which type, you guessed it to be black granite based on its colour, for all you know, it could be a fictional type.

Fact 2: You invented the numbers because you cannot possibly know the weight of the stone, density of the stone etc

Fact 3: Toonforce excists in the legend of Zelda, that much is the only fact here, that block could easily either be A: toonforce or B: an inconsistency C: low grade nintendo graphics that could not create a better animation or did not care for one.

Fact 4: Ganon is physically more powerful than the real link, a little guy whos strength is not far beyond human.

Fact 5: You took your numbers, is where you should stop and reconsider your argument.

Kain TK's Ganon and throws him into the ground, where he splatters.

Kain's TK isn't strong enough.

P.S. I mathed it as the lightest form of granite that exists.

P.P.S. The type of matter determines it's density.

P.P.P.S. Anything that's not my numbers is bigger.

Neither is Ganons in the real LOZ, in your fanfiction perhaps

That exists in the real world?

Not really, their your numbers, until the developers point out that Link has such strength you are sunk.

Lol, Ganon's TK is FAR beyond Kain's, and Kain's not strong enoguh to actually throw Ganon, either. This'd be like spiderman trying to throw world war hulk. 😐

Developers designed the cutscene, not me.

According to what? your assumption that he uses TK to hold up his castle?

They also designed Gorons bouncing up and down in lava, e.g. Toonforce, they also designed the fact Ganon is not flung about or even moved while being slashed by 1000+ tons of force.

Developers claimed kains infinite magic power, not me 🙂

Originally posted by Burning thought
According to what? your assumption that he uses TK to hold up his castle?

They also designed Gorons bouncing up and down in lava, e.g. Toonforce, they also designed the fact Ganon is not flung about or even moved while being slashed by 1000+ tons of force.

Developers claimed kains infinite magic power, not me 🙂

I think I saw a video on YouTube of Link fighting Ganon in which Ganon gets flung a considerable distance when Link slashes him. Not like that means that he's actually 1000 tonner. That granite statue/pillar/whatever could have been hollow for all we know.

This is kind of lolworthy. So far it's proposed that when game developers called their stone Granite they sought out to make up a fictional type of granite that they specifically let have a design and color similar to the black granite of the real world and that the floating castle that they put into OoT is not affected by gravity.

I know that I like to make up objects and use names similar to ones in the real world. What the hell's the matter with you Shin. >.<

I am talking mainly about the video where Link is fighting Ganon while wearing the golden gauntlets or w/e their called, he slashes and smashes Ganon many times and Ganon is unmoved, nor even bothered hardly, considering this Ganon should physically be launched across the ground. Although I would be intrieged to see this video of Link tossing Ganon around.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I am talking mainly about the video where Link is fighting Ganon while wearing the golden gauntlets or w/e their called, he slashes and smashes Ganon many times and Ganon is unmoved, nor even bothered hardly, considering this Ganon should physically be launched across the ground. Although I would be intrieged to see this video of Link tossing Ganon around.

I'll try to find. One moment.

EDIT:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zuWhvLY8tU&feature=related

Somewhere around 0:43, but I believe it also happens a few more times after that. Not like he gets flung throughout the whole landscape, but still something.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I am talking mainly about the video where Link is fighting Ganon while wearing the golden gauntlets or w/e their called, he slashes and smashes Ganon many times and Ganon is unmoved, nor even bothered hardly, considering this Ganon should physically be launched across the ground. Although I would be intrieged to see this video of Link tossing Ganon around.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Mist is vapour, you cant evapourate something already in vapour form, if you do your simply making more vapour which I pointed out in the starkiller thread would simply make it more of a difficulty to fight Kain considering you would not know which direction he is coming from, and which part of the mist is actually him. And how could you force Kain to mist into lava anyway? furthermore I missed the fact theres lava in this match for Ganon to make use of, is there lava? I dont remember OP saying so.

I'm not saying there is, but I'm pointing out an inconsistency in your argument. Mist is not vapor or gas, Mist is a fine liquid state, but still clearly liquid. After being evaporated, then mist would be gas, but not before.

As an example, fog is a type of mist. It can be heavy or it can be light, but it's still predominantly liquid, which gets evaporated as the sun warms the liquid.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
you want a 30 MB N64 game to portray real physics, and yet claim feats from the same era to be a result of bad graphics? Contradict yourself more.

How did i contradict myself? I want the game to show real physics, obvioulsy it does not, same with the tossing of the stone, its not your fault or anyone elses, but that fact remains. The game has no baring on physics, its just for fun, according to canon Link is pretty much a human, a lot would have to be proved before it can ever be said he is close to even 100 tons, especially consdiering the series has toonforce moments as well.

I like how you sit there claiming about how its a small game on 30MB yet you dont see how this can reflect on the fact they could not have thought up or did not want to fill the game in with a better and more realistic way of link moving teh stone? in comes toon force to save them...ofcourse Toonforce is not taken into account in such battles of realism, so by Canon, Link is not actually that strong.

You're a fool. They can't run a physics engine during gameplay on a 30MB cartridge.
They CAN have badass cinematics for throwing a stone though, and they do, and it's canon, your claim or Toonforce might as well be a concession, because you can't actually argue the point at all. Infact, I choose to take it as such.

Thank you for so graciously accepting defeat.

Pawned.