Wizards vs Mutants

Started by Wei Phoenix40 pages
Originally posted by omgchos
Yeah you cant have your cake and eat it too. Either they are willing to do whatever it takes to win, IE using Avada Kedavra, or most of those mutants hate each other and won;t cooperate.

They do what it takes to win but also stay in character.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Magneto did team with Xavier, have you seen the second movie? He doesn't even hate Charles, he threatened Pyro when he said he would kill Charles. They are still good friends.

Charles won't kill but he'll certainly stun and put them down.


He didnt seem to give a shit when jean killed charles.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bellatrix killing Sirius Black in OOTP.

Anything else?

What you consider instant and what actually is instant differ greatly, I've had numerous debates with you here.

So post it for all to see, and we can all judge how fast it. Because I recall AV being cast (in one of the films, forget which) by others and it definitely wasn't instant, words and waves needed to be said and done, as the other spells.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They do what it takes to win but also stay in character.

Staying in character means that they don't cooperate. If all they want is a Battle to the death, which is usually what these threads are unless otherwise stated, they will use alla t their disposal to win whcih means they use the killing curse.

Originally posted by omgchos
Actually no. It's clearly stated in the movei that the phoenix is merely an alter ego, albeit an evil powerfull one. It negates the comic version completely. When a movie does that you can only say it's loosley based. If the phoenix had been the super pwnage cosmic entitiy from the comics then fine, but she wasn't.

Cain has been identified as a mutant many times in the comics but he isn't, maybe thats just the movie making that same mistake and he really is the avatar of Cyttorak.

Scott isn't any different from his comic self so he just tells them to get off his lawn and pwns them, Magneto isn't any different either so he just controls the iron in their blood taps into the very elements of the earth itself.

Actually Death herself have said that Jean is not some host for the Phoenix in comics, she is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is her, they are the same so an alter ego would fit but as we both know comics and books have no merit here.

Originally posted by omgchos
Staying in character means that they don't cooperate. If all they want is a Battle to the death, which is usually what these threads are unless otherwise stated, they will use alla t their disposal to win whcih means they use the killing curse.

The X-Men and Brotherhood have worked together without trying to kill each other...

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Cain has been identified as a mutant many times in the comics but he isn't, maybe thats just the movie making that same mistake and he really is the avatar of Cyttorak.

Scott isn't any different from his comic self so he just tells them to get off his lawn and pwns them, Magneto isn't any different either so he just controls the iron in their blood taps into the very elements of the earth itself.

Actually Death herself have said that Jean is not some host for the Phoenix in comics, she is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is her, they are the same so an alter ego would fit but as we both know comics and books have no merit here.


Im using actuall facts in the movie. you are the one useing the comics here. In the movie there are no magic crystals or cosmic entities. Im sorry but they are all just mutated humans in the movie. Charles would have mentioned the cosmic entity he encountered, not the alter ego. And in the movie regardless of mistakes made the juggy was merely a mutant. The little kid took his powers, this proves my point.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The X-Men and Brotherhood have worked together without trying to kill each other...

Never said they would kill each other. I was merely pointing out that in a vs. thread u use all the powers that can be used. Character has no baring on a vs. thread.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Magneto did team with Xavier, have you seen the second movie? He doesn't even hate Charles, he threatened Pyro when he said he would kill Charles. They are still good friends.

Charles won't kill but he'll certainly stun and put them down.

And when was Xavier shown "stunning" people? This is a battle to the death, man. Xavier is useless here. Occlumency FTW.

Originally posted by omgchos
He didnt seem to give a shit when jean killed charles.

He actually did but knew there was nothing he could do to her.

Did you see what he said to Pyro when he [Pyro] said he would've killed Xavier?

Originally posted by Robtard
What you consider instant and what actually is instant differ greatly, I've had numerous debates with you here.

So post it for all to see, and we can all judge how fast it. Because I recall AV being cast (in one of the films, forget which) by others and it definitely wasn't instant, words and waves needed to be said and done, as the other spells.

AHAHAHAHA You've never seen OOTP haermm, yet you have the balls to enter this thread and say what is and what isn't haermm

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He actually did but knew there was nothing he could do to her.

Did you see what he said to Pyro when he [Pyro] said he would've killed Xavier?


I'm talking about shedding a tear not retaliation. In the movie he didn;t care.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And when was Xavier shown "stunning" people? This is a battle to the death, man. Xavier is useless here. Occlumency FTW.

LoL, again with the BS, very few wizards are skilled in this occlumency.

So Xavier mindrapes most of them while Phoenix destroys.

Originally posted by omgchos
I'm talking about shedding a tear not retaliation. In the movie he didn;t care.

You don't have to cry to care about someone. Tears aren't needed to show pain or remorse for a friend. If he didn't care he wouldn't praise him nor threaten to kill one of his own for badmouthing him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
AHAHAHAHA You've never seen OOTP haermm, yet you have the balls to enter this thread and say what is and what isn't haermm

I have, it was one of the better films (though still shit), I don't recall any instant AV attack, most likely because their wasn't, as other AV attacks weren't instant.

So please do have the balls to post it and show us this "instant" attack.

Until then, Xavier's and DP known screen feats destroy all here.

OK Rob, here ya go:

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At 1:26 Bellkatrix lands and casts the death spell on Sirius. He winces, then he is dead. Good enough? See how fast she cast the spell? It took her less than a second to land, raise her wand, and cast it.

Also, you can see the wizards and death eaters apparating and flying around, cancha? Hmm? I know you can. At :30, see the death eater disappear, taking flight, casting spells as he goes? Hmm? Good stuff, eh? 😄

Originally posted by Robtard
I have, it was one of the better films (though still shit), I don't recall any instant AV attack, most likely because their wasn't, as other AV attacks weren't instant.

So please do have the balls to post it and show us this "instant" attack.

Until then, Xavier's and DP known screen feats destroy all here.

I just sank your battleship.

And please, stop being dim, Occlumency negates any and all powers that Xavier has. You know it. I know it. Its OK, admit it.

Thing abotu Bellatrix is that she is evil so of course she has no problem using it. Harry isn't so he won't. The OP didn't say this was a fight to the death so those not willing to kill won't.

That wasn't instant, she had to raise her hands in order to cast, as most spells in HP require some form of verbal and/or hand motion to set off.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I just sank your battleship.

And please, stop being dim, Occlumency negates any and all powers that Xavier has. You know it. I know it. Its OK, admit it.

No, you didn't. You'll of course ignore what is actually shown on screen.

You call me dim ,when you blatantly ignore the rules and B.S., nice. Very few wizards are skilled in occlumency, so Xavier can mind-rape most of them, leaving the remaining few for all the other mutants.