Originally posted by RobtardReally now? You got proof that many wizards are skilled in Occlumency? Aurors can all do it, as can Voldy and Dumbles, and Snape, and Harry. As can alot of highly trained wizards. A few, as if.
LoL, again with the BS, very few wizards are skilled in this occlumency.So Xavier mindrapes most of them while Phoenix destroys.
Originally posted by RobtardMissed the vid, did you? Hmm? Face it, DP will be death spelled quicker than shit.
No, you didn't. You'll of course ignore what is actually shown on screen.You call me dim ,when you blatantly ignore the rules and B.S., nice. Very few wizards are skilled in occlumency, so Xavier can mind-rape most of them, leaving the remaining few for all the other mutants.
You are doing the ignoring, ignoring the facts and evidence being thrown at you. You are doing what you do when you dont have a leg to stand on, you are whining about rule breaking and going back to your same old line of thought, "just cuz."
Xavier will not mind rape anyone. His powers are shit here, Occlumency pwns him. DP gets death spelled or imperiused.
Originally posted by RobtardDude, stop. Just stop. She landed, raised her wand ans cast the spell in less than a second. Its right there in the vid. Accept it.
That wasn't instant, she had to raise her hands in order to cast, as most spells in HP require some form of verbal and/or hand motion to set off.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixIf a wizard doesnt want to kill, they stil have so many spells to use it is sickening. If no death spell is used, Incarcerous, stupefy, petrificus totalus, among others, may be employed.
Thing abotu Bellatrix is that she is evil so of course she has no problem using it. Harry isn't so he won't. The OP didn't say this was a fight to the death so those not willing to kill won't.
Not to mention that Dumbles, Snape or Voldy can manipulate the minds of the mutants just like Xavier TRIES to. They can turn the mutants on one another, easy as pie.
Originally posted by omgchos
That is an equation to find the energy of matter. If there is no matter than there is no need for that equation. Stop quoting scientific facts in the wrong context please. And thats only a theory btw. Heat energy can cause a humvee to fly away. Look at lightning bolts. They can split a tree in half. Yet the clouds don't disperse when the lightning is discharged. This proves what im saying. He is discharging energy, not shooting out matter.
Actually, it's recently been confirmed as scientific law...😐
I kind stopped reading at around page ten, so forgive me if someone's already brought up the points I want to discuss, but of the HP forces, how many of the Death Eaters would be among them?
It only takes a second for a Death Eater to raise their wand and caste the killing curse. Whether it hits is another thing.
It only takes a millisecond for Phoenix to wipe out the field. She always hits.
Xavier can take out 90% of the field with Telepathy, which is being generous considering only about 2 have actually demonstrated occulamency.
Kitty can disarm all the wizards, pull them all 50miles below the earths surface or, hell, she could just walk into Air Force One and nuke the planet.
Superspeed girl runs around with a knife and solos half the field.
Death Spell isn't unblockable, it can be dodged and it doesn't pass through matter. Dumbledore blocks it with the statues in the ministry. It's contextual knowledge about the innate nature of the spell so its applicable.
X-Men pwn hard.
Originally posted by NephthysMillisecond? Really now? Is she shown wiping out an entire field of foes in a millisecond? Nope.
It only takes a second for a Death Eater to raise their wand and caste the killing curse. Whether it hits is another thing.
It only takes a millisecond for Phoenix to wipe out the field. She always hits.
Xavier can take out 90% of the field with Telepathy, which is being generous considering only about 2 have actually demonstrated occulamency.That would be four, not two. And the only way Xavier would be able to keep Voldy, Snape or Dumbles from invading his mind would be to wear a helmet like Magneto. So yeah, Xavier is not a factor, the 90% live.
Kitty can disarm all the wizards, pull them all 50miles below the earths surface or, hell, she could just walk into Air Force One and nuke the planet.And how is she gonna disarm them? The only thing she is shown doing is running through walls and shit. She has no fighting prowess, zero, none. And she will never get close enough to grab a wizard. She will be killed before she gets ten feet from them. Her phasing is useless here.
Superspeed girl runs around with a knife and solos half the field.Is she shown using a knife?
So she is running around fast as hell, she is gonna think about where she is going, isn't she? A wizard with telepathy, like Snape, will realize where she will be at any second, and will be ready to death spell her ass.
Death Spell isn't unblockable, it can be dodged and it doesn't pass through matter. Dumbledore blocks it with the statues in the ministry. It's contextual knowledge about the innate nature of the spell so its applicable.How is a mutant gonna block a death spell? The only thing that can block a death spell is magic, and mutants have no magic. If they hide behind some random boulder, Umbridge will shatter it, and yeah, death spell.X-Men pwn hard.
There are too many weapons at a wizards disposal. Voldemort could Imperius DP, and have her fry her teammates. Or, as chos stated, as DP begins her destruction, all a wizard has to do is apparate a safe distance away and attack from afar.
X Men get PWNED hard, you mean.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Millisecond? Really now? Is she shown wiping out an entire field of foes in a millisecond? Nope.
When she wants to disintegrate someone, she does, there is no delay - No uttering of words, no waving of wand. Theres really no argument of who can destroy faster.
Originally posted by Rogue JediThat would be four, not two. And the only way Xavier would be able to keep Voldy, Snape or Dumbles from invading his mind would be to wear a helmet like Magneto. So yeah, Xavier is not a factor, the 90% live.
Yea sure, a telepath that can freeze the minds of a mall full of people, manipulate a human mind in anyway, can tranfer his consciousness to another body, will need some protection in the form of a helmet from these novice telepaths, uh huh.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how is she gonna disarm them? The only thing she is shown doing is running through walls and shit. She has no fighting prowess, zero, none. And she will never get close enough to grab a wizard. She will be killed before she gets ten feet from them. Her phasing is useless here.
How will she get killed while intangible? She won't. Like someone said, she can pull someone into the ground and leave them there. There is no counter against her.
Originally posted by Rogue JediSo she is running around fast as hell, she is gonna think about where she is going, isn't she? A wizard with telepathy, like Snape, will realize where she will be at any second, and will be ready to death spell her ass.
No you can't use telepathy on something that is intangible sorry. Plus Xavier can offer protection. Stop this wizard telepathy BS, if anyone needs to worry about being mind raped, its the wizards.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There are too many weapons at a wizards disposal. Voldemort could Imperius DP, and have her fry her teammates. Or, as chos stated, as DP begins her destruction, all a wizard has to do is apparate a safe distance away and attack from afar.
Have they shown they can attack from a distance away? They also can't deal with Storm summoning thunder storms and Cyclones from way up in the skies. Don't tell me they can fly through cyclones please.
Here are but a few spells that most if not all mutants would be vulnerable to:
Accio (Summoning Charm)
Pronunciation: Various suggestions have been made, including:
['ækio] (AK-ee-o) - Film and video game
['æksio] (AK-see-o) - Audio book
['æsio] (AH-see-o) - American audio book
Description: This charm summons an object to the caster, potentially over a significant distance.[2]
Seen/Mentioned: First mentioned in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, when it was briefly used by Molly Weasley on the Weasley twins to confiscate their Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes' products from their pockets, before they left for the Quidditch World Cup. Hermione was also mentioned trying to learn this charm during her ride aboard the Hogwarts Express. Later on in the same book, Harry summons his broom to complete the First Task of the Triwizard Tournament.[GF Ch.20] Near the end of the book, Harry summons a Portkey he can't reach to escape from the Battle in the Graveyard. In "Order of the Phoenix", Bellatrix Lestrange attempts to summon the prophecy from Harry. Also seen in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows to try to summon Horcruxes, and Harry tries to summon a falling Rubeus Hagrid. One of the Death Eaters tried to snatch Harry's Invisibility Cloak using this charm, but did not work.
Suggested Etymology: The Latin word accio means "I call" or "I summon".[3]In the Hungarian translation, the spell is called "Invito", possibly from the word "to invite".
Avada Kedavra (Killing Curse)
Pronunciation: ah-VAH-dah kuh-DAHV-rah (IPA: /ə.'væ.də kə.'dæv.ɹə/)
Description: Causes a jet of green light, and a rushing noise; the curse causes instant death to the victim. It leaves no mark of death. There is no known counter-curse or blocking spell (with the exception of the curse striking another spell midflight, negating both), although the caster can be interrupted, the victim can dodge the green jet, hide behind solid objects (which burst into flame when hit by it), or, if the casting wizard is not sufficiently competent, the curse may be completely ineffective as described by Barty Crouch Jr (acting as Alastor Moody) in Goblet of Fire. Harry twice countered this spell by casting Expelliarmus. It is one of the three Unforgivable Curses; the use of this spell on another human being can earn the caster a life sentence in Azkaban.
[edit] Bombarda
Pronunciation: bom-BOR-da
Description:' Make object explode.
'Seen/Mentioned:Mentioned in Prisoner of Azkaban by Hermione when helping Sirius escape from the highest cell of the Dark Tower of Hogwarts. This spell is used several times in different chapters.
Crucio (Cruciatus Curse)
Cruciatus redirects here. For the ligaments in the knee, see Cruciate ligament.
Pronunciation: KROO-see-oh/KROO-shee-OH (IPA: /ˈkɹu.si.əʊ/)
Description: Inflicts unbearable pain on the recipient of the curse. The effects of the curse depend upon the desires and emotions of the character - to produce the "excruciating" pain implied by the name, one must (according to Bellatrix Lestrange) desire to cause pain purely for its own sake or for fulfillment. The extreme pain inflicted by the curse when cast so - without any apparent evidence of physical harm - makes it uniquely suited as a form of torture. This pain has included the sensations of flaming bones and a head that was split open by crude methods without sedation.[HP4] One of the three Unforgivable Curses.
[edit] Engorgio (Engorgement Charm)
Pronunciation: en-GOR-jee-oh (IPA: /ɪn.'gɔ˞.dʒi.əʊ/)
Description: Causes objects to swell in size.
Seen/Mentioned: A "Growth Charm" with the same effect is briefly mentioned. Hagrid is suspected of having performed the charm on his pumpkins in Chamber of Secrets. Next seen in the Goblet of Fire: Mentioned by Mr. Weasley as a probable charm used on Ton-Tongue Toffees which engorged Dudley's tongue when the Weasleys fetched Harry for the Quidditch World Cup; when Barty Crouch Jr, impersonating Moody, casts it on a spider to enhance a demonstration of the effects of the Cruciatus Curse; and Ron suggested it might be the cause of Hagrid's abnormal size before learning that he is half-giant. Harry in Deathly Hallows also cast it on a spider.
Suggested Etymology: English word engorge meaning "to fill to excess".[12
Engorgio (Engorgement Charm)
Pronunciation: en-GOR-jee-oh (IPA: /ɪn.'gɔ˞.dʒi.əʊ/)
Description: Causes objects to swell in size.
Incarcerous
Pronunciation: in-CAR-ser-us (IPA: [ɪn.'kaɹ.sɝ.ˌɪs])
Description: Ties someone or something up with ropes.
Incendio
Pronunciation: in-SEN-dee-oh (IPA: [ɪn.'sɛn.di.ˌəʊ])
Description: Produces fire. Flames burst out flying.
Inflomora
Pronunciation: in-fle-mo-ra
Description: Produces fire, but only the flame will not 'fly', but appear.
Legilimens
Pronunciation: Le-JILL-ih-mens (IPA: [lɛ.'dʒɪl.ɪ.ˌmɛnz])
Description: Allows the caster to delve into the mind of the victim, allowing the caster to see the memories, thoughts, and emotions of the victim.
Levicorpus
Pronunciation: levi-COR-pus (nonverbal) (IPA: [lɛvɪ.'kɔɹ.pɪs])
Description: The victim is dangled upside-down by one of their ankles, sometimes accompanied by a flash of white light.
Petrificus Totalus (Body-Bind Curse)
Pronunciation: pe-TRI-fi-cus toh-TAH-lus (IPA: [pe.ˈtri.fi.kəs ˈtəʊ.tələs]
Description: Used to temporarily bind the victim's body in a position much like that of a soldier at attention; this spell does not restrict breathing or seeing, and the victim will usually fall to the ground.[20]
Seen/Mentioned: First used in Philosopher's Stone by Hermione, who was trying to prevent Neville from stopping her, Ron, and Harry from leaving the common room to hunt for the Philosopher's Stone.[PS Ch.16] It is then used throughout the rest of the series, especially during the Battle of the Department of Mysteries in Order of the Phoenix. Seen in Half-Blood Prince twice: in the beginning, Draco uses the spell against Harry on the train, and later when Dumbledore casts the spell to make Harry freeze so he doesn't give himself away in the Astronomy Tower. The spell was broken when Dumbledore was killed.
Stupefy (Stunning Spell, Stupefying Charm, Stunner)
Pronunciation: ST(Y)OO-puh-fye
Description: Puts the victim in an unconscious state. Manifests as a jet of red light.
Seen/Mentioned: First seen in Goblet of Fire use by Ministry officials in at Quidditch World Cup. Also seen used by a number of Ministry officials against McGonagall in Order of the Phoenix. It is also taught by Harry in his D.A. meetings and used extensively during the Battle of the Department of Mysteries against the Death Eaters. Is seen by some, including Harry himself, as the basic spell for fighting. Death Eaters, Ministry Officials, Order members and students all seem to refer to this spell as their preferred attack.
Wingardium Leviosa (Levitation Charm)
Pronunciation: win-GAR-dee-um lev-ee-OH-sa (IPA: [wɪn.'gaɹ.di.ˌʌm lɛ.vi.'əʊ.sa]
Description: Levitates objects.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here are but a few spells that most if not all mutants would be vulnerable to:Accio (Summoning Charm)
Pronunciation: Various suggestions have been made, including:
['ækio] (AK-ee-o) - Film and video game
['æksio] (AK-see-o) - Audio book
['æsio] (AH-see-o) - American audio book
Description: This charm summons an object to the caster, potentially over a significant distance.[2]
Seen/Mentioned: First mentioned in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, when it was briefly used by Molly Weasley on the Weasley twins to confiscate their Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes' products from their pockets, before they left for the Quidditch World Cup. Hermione was also mentioned trying to learn this charm during her ride aboard the Hogwarts Express. Later on in the same book, Harry summons his broom to complete the First Task of the Triwizard Tournament.[GF Ch.20] Near the end of the book, Harry summons a Portkey he can't reach to escape from the Battle in the Graveyard. In "Order of the Phoenix", Bellatrix Lestrange attempts to summon the prophecy from Harry. Also seen in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows to try to summon Horcruxes, and Harry tries to summon a falling Rubeus Hagrid. One of the Death Eaters tried to snatch Harry's Invisibility Cloak using this charm, but did not work.
Suggested Etymology: The Latin word accio means "I call" or "I summon".[3]In the Hungarian translation, the spell is called "Invito", possibly from the word "to invite".Avada Kedavra (Killing Curse)
Pronunciation: ah-VAH-dah kuh-DAHV-rah (IPA: /ə.'væ.də kə.'dæv.ɹə/)
Description: Causes a jet of green light, and a rushing noise; the curse causes instant death to the victim. It leaves no mark of death. There is no known counter-curse or blocking spell (with the exception of the curse striking another spell midflight, negating both), although the caster can be interrupted, the victim can dodge the green jet, hide behind solid objects (which burst into flame when hit by it), or, if the casting wizard is not sufficiently competent, the curse may be completely ineffective as described by Barty Crouch Jr (acting as Alastor Moody) in Goblet of Fire. Harry twice countered this spell by casting Expelliarmus. It is one of the three Unforgivable Curses; the use of this spell on another human being can earn the caster a life sentence in Azkaban.[edit] Bombarda
Pronunciation: bom-BOR-da
Description:' Make object explode.
'Seen/Mentioned:Mentioned in Prisoner of Azkaban by Hermione when helping Sirius escape from the highest cell of the Dark Tower of Hogwarts. This spell is used several times in different chapters.Crucio (Cruciatus Curse)
Cruciatus redirects here. For the ligaments in the knee, see Cruciate ligament.
Pronunciation: KROO-see-oh/KROO-shee-OH (IPA: /ˈkɹu.si.əʊ/)
Description: Inflicts unbearable pain on the recipient of the curse. The effects of the curse depend upon the desires and emotions of the character - to produce the "excruciating" pain implied by the name, one must (according to Bellatrix Lestrange) desire to cause pain purely for its own sake or for fulfillment. The extreme pain inflicted by the curse when cast so - without any apparent evidence of physical harm - makes it uniquely suited as a form of torture. This pain has included the sensations of flaming bones and a head that was split open by crude methods without sedation.[HP4] One of the three Unforgivable Curses.[edit] Engorgio (Engorgement Charm)
Pronunciation: en-GOR-jee-oh (IPA: /ɪn.'gɔ˞.dʒi.əʊ/)
Description: Causes objects to swell in size.
Seen/Mentioned: A "Growth Charm" with the same effect is briefly mentioned. Hagrid is suspected of having performed the charm on his pumpkins in Chamber of Secrets. Next seen in the Goblet of Fire: Mentioned by Mr. Weasley as a probable charm used on Ton-Tongue Toffees which engorged Dudley's tongue when the Weasleys fetched Harry for the Quidditch World Cup; when Barty Crouch Jr, impersonating Moody, casts it on a spider to enhance a demonstration of the effects of the Cruciatus Curse; and Ron suggested it might be the cause of Hagrid's abnormal size before learning that he is half-giant. Harry in Deathly Hallows also cast it on a spider.
Suggested Etymology: English word engorge meaning "to fill to excess".[12Engorgio (Engorgement Charm)
Pronunciation: en-GOR-jee-oh (IPA: /ɪn.'gɔ˞.dʒi.əʊ/)
Description: Causes objects to swell in size.Incarcerous
Pronunciation: in-CAR-ser-us (IPA: [ɪn.'kaɹ.sɝ.ˌɪs])
Description: Ties someone or something up with ropes.Incendio
Pronunciation: in-SEN-dee-oh (IPA: [ɪn.'sɛn.di.ˌəʊ])
Description: Produces fire. Flames burst out flying.Inflomora
Pronunciation: in-fle-mo-ra
Description: Produces fire, but only the flame will not 'fly', but appear.Legilimens
Pronunciation: Le-JILL-ih-mens (IPA: [lɛ.'dʒɪl.ɪ.ˌmɛnz])
Description: Allows the caster to delve into the mind of the victim, allowing the caster to see the memories, thoughts, and emotions of the victim.Levicorpus
Pronunciation: levi-COR-pus (nonverbal) (IPA: [lɛvɪ.'kɔɹ.pɪs])
Description: The victim is dangled upside-down by one of their ankles, sometimes accompanied by a flash of white light.Petrificus Totalus (Body-Bind Curse)
Pronunciation: pe-TRI-fi-cus toh-TAH-lus (IPA: [pe.ˈtri.fi.kəs ˈtəʊ.tələs]
Description: Used to temporarily bind the victim's body in a position much like that of a soldier at attention; this spell does not restrict breathing or seeing, and the victim will usually fall to the ground.[20]
Seen/Mentioned: First used in Philosopher's Stone by Hermione, who was trying to prevent Neville from stopping her, Ron, and Harry from leaving the common room to hunt for the Philosopher's Stone.[PS Ch.16] It is then used throughout the rest of the series, especially during the Battle of the Department of Mysteries in Order of the Phoenix. Seen in Half-Blood Prince twice: in the beginning, Draco uses the spell against Harry on the train, and later when Dumbledore casts the spell to make Harry freeze so he doesn't give himself away in the Astronomy Tower. The spell was broken when Dumbledore was killed.Stupefy (Stunning Spell, Stupefying Charm, Stunner)
Pronunciation: ST(Y)OO-puh-fye
Description: Puts the victim in an unconscious state. Manifests as a jet of red light.
Seen/Mentioned: First seen in Goblet of Fire use by Ministry officials in at Quidditch World Cup. Also seen used by a number of Ministry officials against McGonagall in Order of the Phoenix. It is also taught by Harry in his D.A. meetings and used extensively during the Battle of the Department of Mysteries against the Death Eaters. Is seen by some, including Harry himself, as the basic spell for fighting. Death Eaters, Ministry Officials, Order members and students all seem to refer to this spell as their preferred attack.Wingardium Leviosa (Levitation Charm)
Pronunciation: win-GAR-dee-um lev-ee-OH-sa (IPA: [wɪn.'gaɹ.di.ˌʌm lɛ.vi.'əʊ.sa]
Description: Levitates objects.
Cool. They can hurt mutants point taken.
Your problem however, is that you seem to think the wizards are untouchable. They will get the first spell on EVERY mutant before ANYONE can attack them.
Of course we know this isn't true, as DP and Xavier have the fastest forms of attack, which are powered by thought.
Originally posted by PlacidityYeah, well too bad she is not shown wiping out a small army in a millisecond in screen, or this might actually be a point.
When she wants to disintegrate someone, she does, there is no delay - No uttering of words, no waving of wand. Theres really no argument of who can destroy faster.[/i]
[b]Yea sure, a telepath that can freeze the minds of a mall full of people, manipulate a human mind in anyway, can tranfer his consciousness to another body, will need some protection in the form of a helmet from these novice telepaths, uh huh.Dude, Dumbles, Voldy and Snape are far from novices.
How will she get killed while intangible? She won't. Like someone said, she can pull someone into the ground and leave them there. There is no counter against her.How is she gonna get that close? Wizards can apparate, you know. And did I mention she shows zero fighting prowess? If she is running around the field, she is nothing more than a moving target.
No you can't use telepathy on something that is intangible sorry. Plus Xavier can offer protection. Stop this wizard telepathy BS, if anyone needs to worry about being mind raped, its the wizards.Xavier is the only mutant that can mind rape the wizards. The wizards have Voldy, Dumbles and Snape. Xavier is gonna be facing all three of them, all attacking his mind at once, no way he can resist all three AND mind rape anyone.
Have they shown they can attack from a distance away? They also can't deal with Storm summoning thunder storms and Cyclones from way up in the skies. Don't tell me they can fly through cyclones please.I meant apparate and regroup, not literally attack from a long distance. DP is gonna take out a few wizards, no doubt there, but all it takes is one death spell to do her ni, and with all the death eaters running around, one will certainly zap her. Not to mention Voldy controlling her himself with Imperius. Same with storm, she will either be death spelled or Imperiused.
DP will have it in mind to obliterate the filed. Voldy, Dumbles or Snape will sense her intent and take her the **** out before she can even begin.
Twist this any way you want, the wizards have too much firepower for the mutants.
Originally posted by PlacidityI never said they were untouchable.
Cool. They can hurt mutants point taken.Your problem however, is that you seem to think the wizards are untouchable. They will get the first spell on EVERY mutant before ANYONE can attack them.
Of course we know this isn't true, as DP and Xavier have the fastest forms of attack, which are powered by thought.
the wizards arent fools, they are gonna know about Xavier and DP's powers, and will take them out before they can use them. DP will never get a foot off the ground, she will be death spelled before she can begin.
Xavier? Well, if you refuse to accept the FACT that Occlumency negates his powers, then OK, Voldy apparates behind him, death spell, bye bye cripple.
Oh yeah, did I mention Dementors? Dementors are controlled by the ministry of magic, Umbridge works for the ministry, hmmm....what are the mutants gonna do against hundreds of Dementors?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, well too bad she is not shown wiping out a small army in a millisecond in screen, or this might actually be a point.
Whoopdedoo, it wasn't exactly a "millisecond", I don't see your point. The scene where she disintegrates everyone was also shown in slow motion.
Originally posted by Rogue JediDude, Dumbles, Voldy and Snape are far from novices.
Yet so far from Xavier's level. So please don't put forth this crap that Xavier needs telepathic protection from them.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How is she gonna get that close? Wizards can apparate, you know. And did I mention she shows zero fighting prowess? If she is running around the field, she is nothing more than a moving target.
I guess you don't understand what intangibility means. Whats this shit you keep talking about "fightning prowness", she doesn't need any cause she is intangible. All she needs to do is pull them into the ground.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Xavier is the only mutant that can mind rape the wizards. The wizards have Voldy, Dumbles and Snape. Xavier is gonna be facing all three of them, all attacking his mind at once, no way he can resist all three AND mind rape anyone.
Sure he can. So whats this? The three big boys will be focusing on Xavier while simultaneously take on DP and everyone else?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I meant apparate and regroup, not literally attack from a long distance. DP is gonna take out a few wizards, no doubt there, but all it takes is one death spell to do her ni, and with all the death eaters running around, one will certainly zap her. Not to mention Voldy controlling her himself with Imperius. Same with storm, she will either be death spelled or Imperiused.
Storm could be so far up in the sky you couldn't even see her. And you just admitted they don't have that long range attacks. No one is going to control DP, not when Xavier got pwned trying.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
DP will have it in mind to obliterate the filed. Voldy, Dumbles or Snape will sense her intent and take her the **** out before she can even begin.
They can't sense shit. DP's telepathy rivals Xavier. Xavier could hardly get into her mind as Jean Grey.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Twist this any way you want, the wizards have too much firepower for the mutants.
The only one twisting anything is you.
Arguments Supporting Mutants yet to have a decent counter:
DP Disintegration: Faster than anything wizards can summon. Her telekinesis is powered by thought. Wizards on the other hand need to say words and point their stick. Trying to argue that wizards can pull off the attack first just defies logic.
Storm: Summons thunder storms and Cyclones. She remains high in the skies beyond the reach of the wizards spells. While casting multiple bolts of lightning that is sure to fry anyone on the recieving end. Meanwhile everyone is getting sucked into cyclones. Flying or teleporting to Storm won't do shit cause they would get sucked in by the cyclone.Shit, I should add in hail storms and freezing temperatures.
Shadowcat: Intangibility - can't be targeted AT ALL, while she can pull the wizards into the ground one by one. There is no counter.
Xavier: Mind rapes almost all of the wizards,assuming the big boys can resist him. He can do this from a mile away, in his comfy chair.
Nightcrawler, Deadpool, Callisto and Quicksilver: Way too fast to be targeted, they would almost be unstoppable as they rape the wizards one by one.
Cyclops,Pyro,Iceman, Magneto and many others can all attack from a distance, again beyond the reach of spells. All of them can do massive area of effect damage.
Yeah, well too bad she is not shown wiping out a small army in a millisecond in screen, or this might actually be a point.
😆 Did you even watch X3? At they end she does just that. And it takes her a milliscond to attack (or at least the speed of thought) not for the effects to take place, as we saw in X3. Even if they could tag her (they can't, she could literally rip the walls apart to block their spells) they're already half disintergrated before they fire off the spell and gone by the time it hits.
Dude, Dumbles, Voldy and Snape are far from novices.
Jesus, what a fan-frickin'-tastic argument. None of their feats even get close to Xaviers, he'd pimp them all.
How is she gonna get that close?
She can go through the floor.
And did I mention she shows zero fighting prowess?
She dragged Juggernaut into the ground. That would take care of any wizard.
If she is running around the field, she is nothing more than a moving target.
Correction: A target no-one can hit. One that can hit back.
I meant apparate and regroup, not literally attack from a long distance. DP is gonna take out a few wizards, no doubt there, but all it takes is one death spell to do her ni, and with all the death eaters running around, one will certainly zap her. Not to mention Voldy controlling her himself with Imperius. Same with storm, she will either be death spelled or Imperiused.DP will have it in mind to obliterate the filed. Voldy, Dumbles or Snape will sense her intent and take her the **** out before she can even begin.
You seem to be under the impression that this fight takes place in an open field. It takes place in Hogwarts so y'know corridors and stuff. By the time they find either DP or Xavier they're annihilated. And how are they going to 'sense her intent'? DP has better telepathy that Xavier, even if Xavier can't take all 3 out (he can) DP will and both would seriously stomp them to shit. That also puts your theory of the Imperius curse to bed, as it only works on the weak-minded (lol) and DP is not weakminded considering shes mentally bitchslapped Xavier before.
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Is she shown using a knife?
😆 😆 😆 Does using a knife need a feat now, becuase y'know its so damn complicated that not just anyone can do it. They're in a school,with a kitchen, with suits of armour and swords everywhere, with windows for some broken glass, so yeah, she can get armed pretty easily.
Oh yeah, did I mention Dementors? Dementors are controlled by the ministry of magic, Umbridge works for the ministry, hmmm....what are the mutants gonna do against hundreds of Dementors?
This fight is for wizards only. And even if they're allowed (they're not) they live in Azkaban, it would take them hours to reach Hogwarts.
I really don't see the X-men reacting faster than a few words and a flick of the wrist. You have all of these Wizards who are able to kill, transform and paralyze people with a few words and a flick of the wrist. I really don't see Xavier being capable of shutting down everyones mind before he falls victim to a charm or death spell.
The question i have is whether or not Cyclops optic blast would be able to deflect these Spells (projectile spells). If so, then this match is over so fast. One massive Optic Blast from Cyclops should be enough. If the wizards' spells are able to travel through his Optic Blast I still think that Cyclops would be able to knock down a few Wizards and divorce them from their wands before he goes down. I also believe that Nightcrawler would be the x-man of most concern for the Wizards. I really don't think the telepaths would be as beneficial in this fight as Cyclops and Nightcrawler would be. Nightcrawler could potentially go around collecting all of the wands before anyone knew what happened. Allowing Dark Phoenix in this fight is really not fair. She is a God.