Wizards vs Mutants

Started by omgchos40 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just thinking about that, tough call.

Killer sig though.


Thanks😄 I was thinking that since nearly headless nick was affected by the basalisk in COS, and thats a type of magic, that means kitty would probably be affected by magic. Since a ghost is able to "phase", tho not by choice.

Originally posted by omgchos
Thanks😄 I was thinking that since nearly headless nick was affected by the basalisk in COS, and thats a type of magic, that means kitty would probably be affected by magic. Since a ghost is able to "phase", tho not by choice.
Was that in the movie? Its been ages, bro.

And I am thinking you should make me a Sin City sig with Dwight and Gail 😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Was that in the movie? Its been ages, bro.

And I am thinking you should make me a Sin City sig with Dwight and Gail 😉

Yeah it was in the movie, or at least they talked about it when they figured out that's what happened.

Ill give it a shot, but it could take a while, lol.

Originally posted by omgchos
Yeah it was in the movie, or at least they talked about it when they figured out that's what happened.

Ill give it a shot, but it could take a while, lol.

Well that IS interesting.

I got a better idea for a sig, I'll pm you later about it. And of course, only if you want to, and when you have time. 🙂

I started the other one already but we'll see what happens.

Again, I never saw her wiping out EVERYONE in a millisecond.

No, but she can attack in a millisecond, or at least the speed of thought. It then takes moments for the effects to play out, during which the wizards would be too preoccupied by having their limbs disintegrating to cast any spells. Point is, as soon as she becomes aware of an opponent they're dead. And for your 'apparate and DS her' plan, it's still a case of reactions, as in they wouldn't apparate with their wands already pointing to the exact spot where she is, they would still need to target. So it becomes a battle of reflexes, and not even you can argue that speed of thought<speed of arm.

no way in hell she targets ALL wizards and wastes them ALL before they can get a death spell at her.

She isn't going to be fighting them ALL though. This fight is IN Hogwarts, so they will be fighting in corridors, which means 5-7 attackers at once max. AND, death spells take time to get to her, meaning she will have ample time to block them with walls, teammates etc

And let her rip the walls apart to block their spells. Hermione and Umbridge will blow the walls to shit and give the wizards a clean shot at DP.

First, that spell doesn't disintergrate things, so she can still use the rubble left over, and its doubtful the pieces would go far. Second, unless those two time their attack VERY well with death eaters (unlikely) she will still have plenty of time to get something else to hide behind AND disintergrate those two as well.

Really now? The three of them, their combined might, is no match for Xavier? Reality check, dude. Xavier mind rapes humans, with the exception of Toad and sabretooth.

Xavier is so far ahead of the wizard three its ridiculous. Xavier AND Pheonix would make each and every wizard their b*tch, with Voldamort on the floor thinking he's a 12 yr old girl. And Voldamorts crappy economy telepathy can be blocked by humans, Harry blocked it no problem, without doing ANYTHING magical. The feats of the wizard 3 combined cannot even come close to Xaviers feats.

At the very least, Xavier would keep Voldamort incapacitated long enough for someone to kill him.

Again, apparate away and death spell. Bye bye Kitty.

Its already been shown that this isn't the case, and a death spell would go right through Kitty.

Mhm, cua the wizards are gonan just sit there playing qith their wands and LET her do this.

How are they going to stop her? How are the going to dodge something coming out of the ground or the walls? They can't do anything to her and eventually she'll get them

Get a grip, man. And IF she drags a wizard into the ground, so what? Apparate out of the ground and back on to solid ground.

Not true.

Imperius only works on the weak minded? Is this said in the movies? Cuz you know Viktor Krum was like the best student at his school, not exactly a weak minded person.

Being intelligent and being weak-willed are two different things. Harry Potter broke out of it with sheer will-power. If Harry can, Pheonix can, hell, Wolverine can.

Point is she is never shown using a knife, so for all we know, she sucks ass with one. Screen feats and facts only please.

It doesn't matter if shes clumsy as hell, shes too fast to defend against her even if shes flailing wildly. And being able to use tools is one of the most basic human attributes, it doesn't need proof that it can be done.

Exactly, wizards only, and all the powers that a wizard can employ. One of Umbridges powers is that since she works for the ministry, she can summon the dementors. And dude, the dementors will be there at the start of the battle, NOT at Azkaban. Nice try though.

That is a job, not an power. If a combatant is a cop, does he start out with the entire police force? No. If he's a mobster, does he start out with hitmen and goons? No. If he works at the ministry, does he start out with Dementors? NO.

And Lupin. The Werewolf. Will the mutants have a supply of silver weapons to take him down?

He gets disintergrated. Next.

Again, Will gave me the OK to use dementors.

A lie. I checked.

Thanksbig grin I was thinking that since nearly headless nick was affected by the basalisk in COS, and thats a type of magic, that means kitty would probably be affected by magic. Since a ghost is able to "phase", tho not by choice.

You can't prove that its a type of magic. If anything it seems to be a type of mutation, ironically.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You can't prove that its a type of magic. If anything it seems to be a type of mutation, ironically.

A mutation? I'm almost positive that being able to kill, simply because someone looked into your eyes, is magic. They literally keel over dead because they did nothing but saw the things eyes. Either way my point is valid. Kitty can only phase through physical things. Things like magic aren't physical unless the spell itself conjures a physical item to attack with. My point being you can't phase through a spell.

Charles Xavier can detect people hundreds of miles away and he was even able to tell, very slightly what was on Jean's mind when she went Phoenix. No wizards and witches are going to be remotely close to Jean in "mind" powers. This should convince RJ that only those special materials that block Xavier's mind will keep Xavier out.

So the fact that spells need to hit a person(whose solid) doesn't count? I mean spells don't hit someone and keep going, they're like a projectile, they hit their target and stop.

The Basilisk is a giant serpent, also known as the King of Serpents. It is a creature bred by dark wizards. Herpo the Foul was the first to breed a Basilisk. This was managed by causing an egg of a chicken to hatch under a toad. It's powers would be considered a mutatation.

Nick didn't die from looking directly at the Basilisk because he was a ghost, and already dead, so he was only petrified. So I think maybe looking directly at it would kill Kitty, regardless she were phased or not.

Originally posted by KingD19
So the fact that spells need to hit a person(whose solid) doesn't count? I mean spells don't hit someone and keep going, they're like a projectile, they hit their target and stop.

You are correct. There are plenty of Mutants with reflexes fast enough. If Cyclops were actually closer to his comic counter, he would be more than fast enough to dodge those blast. Scott's awesome.

So is wolverine. He's got absurdly fast reflexes and can bounce all over the place. Same with Savertooth, Beast, and nightcrawler. However, we don't see that in the movie because they are tards in the adaptation. The movies would have been better had they actually incorporated abilities that were closer to the characters.

Originally posted by KingD19
The Basilisk is a giant serpent, also known as the King of Serpents. It is a creature bred by dark wizards. Herpo the Foul was the first to breed a Basilisk. This was managed by causing an egg of a chicken to hatch under a toad. It's powers would be considered a mutatation.

No, it's powers are magical, not a mutation power.

So breed a Basilisk is in no way like breeding a liger? Combining two animals two produce a different animal? And it has a natural mutation, it's extremely potent venom, and it's death stare. Like Gorgon from Marvel has a natural mutation, to turn you to stone when he looks at you.

From what I've seen in the movies, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver, Storm, Callisto, Wolverine, Beast, Wraith, Deadpool, Mystique, Zero, Toad, and Origins Sabertooth have the agility to dodge spells, and Kitty can phase through them.

And multiple man could make dupes for everyone on the X-Team to take the spell hits.

Originally posted by KingD19
So breed a Basilisk is in no way like breeding a liger?

When I Liger gains magical powers such as "instant kills" upon eye contact and teeth that have poisen that have magical properties that can be used in potions and killing horcruxes, let me know. 😐

Originally posted by KingD19
Combining two animals two produce a different animal?

You mean the "mad wizard" amalgamation of two or more animals after many many tries to create a magical creature of deathly ability.

Originally posted by KingD19
And it has a natural mutation,

Tell me, sir, this "natural" thing about it?

Originally posted by KingD19
it's extremely potent venom, and it's death stare. Like Gorgon from Marvel has a natural mutation, to turn you to stone when he looks at you.

One is magic, one is "science."

Originally posted by KingD19
From what I've seen in the movies, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver, Storm, Callisto, Wolverine, Beast, Wraith, Deadpool, Mystique, Zero, Toad, and Origins Sabertooth have the agility to dodge spells, and Kitty can phase through them.

And multiple man could make dupes for everyone on the X-Team to take the spell hits.

Indeed. Which is why I think this is a stomp for the muties.

Couldn't Xavier just freeze all of the wizards and invade their minds like he did with Toad and Sabertooth in the first X-Men movie?

Originally posted by Impediment
Couldn't Xavier just freeze all of the wizards and invade their minds like he did with Toad and Sabertooth in the first X-Men movie?

That is correct. That's why I say we remove him to make things more interesting.

That's at the discretion of the thread starter. ✅

Who the **** is Herpo the Foul haermm

Originally posted by Impediment
Couldn't Xavier just freeze all of the wizards and invade their minds like he did with Toad and Sabertooth in the first X-Men movie?

Yea, I'd also like to mention that Sabretooth and Wolverine have a level of telepathy resistance, yet Xavier can still control them. So much for that occlumency crap.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yea, I'd also like to mention that Sabretooth and Wolverine have a level of telepathy resistance, yet Xavier can still control them. So much for that occlumency crap.

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Originally posted by Placidity
Yea, I'd also like to mention that Sabretooth and Wolverine have a level of telepathy resistance, yet Xavier can still control them. So much for that occlumency crap.
Did they use Occlumency? Nope. They employed no magic powers. A human having "resistance to telepathy" and a wizard employing Occlumency are two different things.

On a side note, thete has been something I have been meaning to ask since Origins came out. Wolverine, in X Men, cannot remember his past. Is Sabretooth the same? And what was done to them to make them forget the past? Obviuosly I havent seen Origins yet, post a spoiler if necessary.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Obviuosly I havent seen Origins yet, post a spoiler if necessary.

*pfft* Don't waste your time. It sucked. Badly.