Originally posted by KingD19In that case, Snape uses Legilimency and turns her on the mutants. Just one possible way of defeating her.
I'm not assuming anything, I'm going by the fact that when she phases, she's completely intangible, a spell needs somethig physical, something solid to hit it. The spell doesn't affect the air as it passes does it?
So the wizards lay overlapping fields
They're goning to have to use 6 spells for that, four corners, top and bottom. They won't be able to do this before Xavier can do his thing, even if they can, they need to stay behind the spell-blocking barriers or get pwned, so they're effectively immobilised anyway. 😆
Except for the Dementors, which he cannot see, as they swoop down and pwn him.
Your opinion doesn't make something happen. People will feel the dementors pass by (unhappyness aura), or notice mysteriously defeated allies and inform Xavier about an unknown magical attack. Etc.
It blocks any and all outside influence. Snape's words, not mine.
Yeah, blocks, like a shield. A visible shield. A shield that can be broken.
They attacked the players? When did this happen?
They appear, they point at the players, Harry faints, no 'zeroing in' involved.
Can Xavier produce a Patronus? Nope. Saying Xavier will mind **** the dementors is nothing more than opinion. Of all the powers a wizard has, only a Patronus works against a dementor. If Legilimency doesnt work against a dementor, then Xaviers mind powers wont work. Simple.
Legilimens is a purely magical attack, which dementors are immune to. Telepathy isn't and so should take them out. Once again, they have a mind, they can be attacked.
I am just saying that any wizard is gonna know Hogwarts better than any mutant.Accio Marauders map!!!
Fair enough.
Yes he would, in fact. Occlumency prevents Xavier from reading Voldy. the invisibility cloak prevents Voldy from being seen. Death spell kills Xavier. ABS, easy as 123.
No. Xavier renders invisibility useless, he can pinpoint him and direct allies.
If Xavier is mind controlling a wizard, it makes it that much easier for Voldy to death spell him.
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Right next to him? Got some evidence to back that up?
Snape has to point his wand at harry and say the incantation. So does Voldemort.
Kitty will be killed the first time she tries to phase a wizard into a wall. Even if she gets ahold of one, they will have time to death spell her before they are killed. She takes out maybe one or two wizards, max.
So theres only 2 left? Oh goody. 😄
2 versus 200, I wonder who wins.
Originally posted by NephthysIt was a theory, never said it was a perfect one haermm
They're goning to have to use 6 spells for that, four corners, top and bottom. They won't be able to do this before Xavier can do his thing, even if they can, they need to stay behind the spell-blocking barriers or get pwned, so they're effectively immobilised anyway. 😆
Your opinion doesn't make something happen. People will feel the dementors pass by (unhappyness aura), or notice mysteriously defeated allies and inform Xavier about an unknown magical attack. Etc.So they see them, big deal. If they cannot produce a Patronus, they are ****ed.
Yeah, blocks, like a shield. A visible shield. A shield that can be broken.Yes, but what breaks it? There is no way of proving what it takes to break it.
They appear, they point at the players, Harry faints, no 'zeroing in' involved.The Dementors are all over the place, why didnt they soul suck one of the other players, or the crowd? Hmm?
Legilimens is a purely magical attack, which dementors are immune to. Telepathy isn't and so should take them out. Once again, they have a mind, they can be attacked.Evidence that telepathy will work ona Dementor? Hmm? Thought not.
No Patronus, no defense.
That is all
No. Xavier renders invisibility useless, he can pinpoint him and direct allies.Afraid I am gonna need more of an explaination than "Xavier renders invisibility useless."
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Snape has to point his wand at harry and say the incantation. So does Voldemort.And?
So theres only 2 left? Oh goody. 😄Read it again haermm2 versus 200, I wonder who wins.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And he can do this from beyond the grave? Because after Voldemort apparates him, death spells him, and apparates away, this is where he will be.
Ok, you're an idiot. You asked for an explanation on what he meant by 'invisibility not being effective'. You get your explanation, and you reply with this bullshit. seriously.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bottom line is this:Dementors are controlled by MAGICAL means, NOT mental means. If a Dementor could be controlled by mind powers, then why weren't they ever controlled via legilimency?
Also, Expecto Patronum is the only defense against a Dementor. No amount of physical or mental attacks will phase them. Mutants are not in possession of any magical powers, therefore mutants cannot produce a Patronus, thus they are without a defense against a Dementor, much less hundreds of them.
No matter how you look at it, against a Dementor, or in this case hundreds of them, a mutant has NO defense. No Expecto patronum, no defense.
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they can't. Wiki said their sentient, as they've can control their powers and have free-will, as they've revolting before. Unless you can show me a scene were someone tried telepathy of the likes of Xavier on them and it failed?
Expecto Patronum is the only MAGICAL defense/offense against a Dementro. The mutants' powers aren't magical in nature.
Xavier and Phoenix rape them, mentally, in mass; doesn't matter if their invisible, as those mutant powers seek minds and affect minds, along with all but the 3-4 wizards that are skilled in occlumency. That's the bottom line, just accept the mutants have much heavier hitters than the wizards.
Originally posted by PlaciditySo Xavier is telepathically letting his teammates know where the Dementors are. So? There are hundreds of them and they are flying around everywhere. You telling me he will have it in him to track them, keep up the telepathic link to his teammates, AND mind rape? If he couldnt sense Mystique in the X school, this is literally impossible.
Ok, you're an idiot. You asked for an explanation on what he meant by 'invisibility not being effective'. You get your explanation, and you reply with this bullshit. seriously.
Originally posted by RobtardWhat is stated in wiki takes a back seat to what is SAID in the movies. Legilimency is a telepathic power, if the Dementors could be controlled by telepathic powers, it would have been done.
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they can't. Wiki said their sentient, as they've can control their powers and have free-will, as they've revolting before. Unless you can show me a scene were someone tried telepathy of the likes of Xavier on them and it failed?
Expecto Patronum is the only MAGICAL defense/offense against a Dementro. The mutants' powers aren't magical in nature.Indeed. If the Dementors were vulnerable to physical attacks, then DP's attacks would hurt them. But they are not vulnerable to physical attacks.
Movie feats and quotes dictate that a Dementor can ony be driven away only by a Patronus. You wanna assume that the mutants can harm them? Go for it, but it's a wild guess without a shred of evidence.
Xavier and Phoenix rape them, mentally, in mass; doesn't matter if their invisible, as those mutant powers seek minds and affect minds, along with all but the 3-4 wizards that are skilled in occlumency. That's the bottom line, just accept the mutants have much heavier hitters than the wizards.Afraid not, but nice try. No Patronus, no defense against Dementors. THATS the bottom line. It is said in the movies, therefore it is law.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What is stated in wiki takes a back seat to what is SAID in the movies. Legilimency is a telepathic power, if the Dementors could be controlled by telepathic powers, it would have been done.Indeed. If the Dementors were vulnerable to physical attacks, then DP's attacks would hurt them. But they are not vulnerable to physical attacks.
Movie feats and quotes dictate that a Dementor can ony be driven away only by a Patronus. You wanna assume that the mutants can harm them? Go for it, but it's a wild guess without a shred of evidence.
Afraid not, but nice try. No Patronus, no defense against Dementors. THATS the bottom line. It is said in the movies, therefore it is law.
You're wrong, again. Legilimency is a MAGICAL form of telepathy used to extract thoughts from someones mind, it isn't mind-control, mind-wiping or mind-rape, as Xaviar's powers are, so the wizards that have Ligilimency couldn't use it to control the Dementors.
DP's powers are mentally dirived in nature, just like Xavier.
There is no reason to believe that mental powers not seen in the HP world wouldn't harm Dementors, it states that they have minds, ergo Xavier and Phoenix can attack them via that path.
Na.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're wrong, again. Legilimency is a MAGICAL form of telepathy used to extract thoughts from someones mind, it isn't mind-control, mind-wiping or mind-rape, as Xaviar's powers are, so the wizards that have Ligilimency couldn't use it to control the Dementors.DP's powers are mentally dirived in nature, just like Xavier.
There is no reason to believe that mental powers not seen in the HP world wouldn't harm Dementors, it states that they have minds, ergo Xavier and Phoenix can attack them via that path.
Na.
Originally posted by omgchos
Actually it is never stated that he can attack/interact with any mind he wants. We never see him use his powers on animals, or anything not mutant or human. So who's to say it can be used on dementors, something clearly not human or mutant.
They have minds, they think and they're certainly not like animals running on instinct, as they've staged revolts and can cast spells, according to Wiki. You keep digging though.