God exists and is a terrible and hateful being, or God does not exist.

Started by Nephthys19 pages
Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

No, I don't even believe in god. Just being hypothetical here.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Mairuzu
All of us humans aren't the same. There is a lot of kindness in the world, the rest is corrupted by satan. His main goal is to lure us away from god and not to believe

Assuming there is a "Devil", I seriously doubt that all the corruption in the world could be attributed to him because people are selfish(and therefor evil) from the moment they're born. Humans don't need someone whispering evil things in their ear to do bad things, all they need is a shortage of good influences...

If I were the Devil, I'd much rather kick back and watch the things humans are capable of WITHOUT my influence because then I'd get to laugh at God while pointing out how flawed his children are.

Mr. Rhythmic Senior Member

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Originally posted by KidRock
Please for the love of God at least tell me you're an atheist and making that comment.

Why does it matter? Relying on something as trivial as that for a distracting point is exactly a part of my case. Someone's specific religion has nothing to do with poor logic.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by Nephthys
Becuase without an omni-something, that being is just a 'super-human'.

Something that's all powerful is also just superhuman . . .

Originally posted by Nephthys
And because thats the definition of a dictator. Well, actually a dictator is closer to being someone powerful who demands to be worshipped/ obeyed and punishes you if you don't.

Yeah, the second one is the accurate one. But then again, there a so many Gods and definitions and interperitations that it still doesn't apply.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well why create us in the first place, or care enough about wether he was being respected to torture us for eternity if we don't?

It wouldn't create use intentionally nor (as I pointed out before) would it care about us at all.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Someone's specific religion has nothing to do with poor logic.

Not according to real atheists.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Humans don't need someone whispering evil things in their ear to do bad things...

That reminds me of something, I think, Lestat said, possibly in Interview With The Vampire: that it was no wonder humans didn't believe in vampires, given what they could inflict upon themselves.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by darthgoober
Assuming there is a "Devil", I seriously doubt that all the corruption in the world could be attributed to him because people are selfish(and therefor evil) from the moment they're born. Humans don't need someone whispering evil things in their ear to do bad things, all they need is a shortage of good influences...

If I were the Devil, I'd much rather kick back and watch the things humans are capable of WITHOUT my influence because then I'd get to laugh at God while pointing out how flawed his children are.

unfortunately, thats not whats going on.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by Mairuzu
unfortunately, thats not whats going on.

You are so correct. That is not what is going on. 😉

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Yup

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Mairuzu
unfortunately, thats not whats going on.

Says who? I don't remember a passage in the Bible that gives the indication that the Devil is the source for every bad thought that crosses a persons mind.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Yup

Yep, we are responsible for all the good and evil we do.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

All i said was that the devil corrupts, just as he did to eve and ever since then.

Mairuzu Old School Cool

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yep, we are responsible for all the good and evil we do.
you are absolutely right. Way to state the obvious 😉

its our choice whether to give into tempation or not.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by Mairuzu
All i said was that the devil corrupts, just as he did to eve and ever since then.

How long ago was that?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Mairuzu
All i said was that the devil corrupts, just as he did to eve and ever since then.

Yes but you attributed ALL the corruption to Satan. I'm asking if there's anything in the Bible that actually supports that notion beyond his involvement with Humans first sin?

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but you attributed ALL the corruption to Satan. I'm asking if there's anything in the Bible that actually supports that notion beyond his involvement with Humans first sin?

Even if all sin is attributed to Satan, then who created Satan? It all goes back to the Christian god.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm asking if there's anything in the Bible that actually supports that notion beyond his involvement with Humans first sin?
Yes.

Two well known occasions are when he tried to tempt Job and Jesus.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Even if all sin is attributed to Satan, then who created Satan? It all goes back to the Christian god.
Free will.

Btw, God hates you guys, but he loves me.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How long ago was that?

Exactly 6000 years ago.

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by Mindset
Free will.

Btw, God hates you guys, but he loves me.

Angels do not have free will.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Angels do not have free will.

We're angels?

I want wings! 😠