Originally posted by StiltmanFTWthats an assumption, heck for al lwe know he could've caught wind of the fight via a news report or if he was spyinig we don't know when he started, heck if he was watching the entire fight why did he wait til the end to intervene?
Dude. Daken was spying on his father. He wanted to kill him himself, he blamed him for Itsu's death...He witnessed the whole Wolverine vs. DP fight.
Originally posted by Trackz
thats an assumption, heck for al lwe know he could've caught wind of the fight via a news report or if he was spyinig we don't know when he started, heck if he was watching the entire fight why did he wait til the end to intervene?
'Cause he knew DP couldn't kill him that way?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWdaken never hinted that he was watching the entire time though...
Nitpicking uhuhAnyway, the pheromones does not always make the target slow. Inaccurate yes, but slow? Not every time.
and I didnt say the pheromones make the target any slower, but they perceive daken to be faster, like he stated the pheromones mess with sensory perception
Originally posted by Trackz
daken never hinted that he was watching the entire time though...and I didnt say the pheromones make the target any slower, but they perceive daken to be faster, like he stated the pheromones mess with sensory perception
Fine, fine.
Ah OK.
My point was that Daken clearly implied that his speed is comparable to DP, at least.
Originally posted by jinzin
And most importantly.... A flat out insinuation of hesitation on Spiderman's speed against Logan's own. Spiderman has not had many fights, if any that I can recall where he's had to question his speed against his opponents at the street level.
can i ask whether you think all SM insinuations are credible,
do you agree sentry is above black bolt?
sentry stalemated galuctus?
spiderman reflexes is 40x faster than normal human? (btw sorry about the bad quality)
what about SM insinuating wolverine has normal human strength?(i did not put teh lol there)
why is it acceptable to consider some insinuation credible and multiple others not, there seems to be double standards on these froums , only accepting some scenarios when it glorifies one's favourite charecter 🙁
hence SM saying daken is almost as fast as wolveirne can be wrong 😖
That is what I have been saying for years. We can't use "xxx said xxx" for one character and not another. It's usually easier to ignore them than argue them, but we can't pick in choose. Wolverine saying Spiderman can break his neck, or DD saying he can't take on Spiderman don't count, but Spiderman saying xxx is as fast as xxx does. Either one way or another. But if we go by what someone else says Spiderman would probably still look superior. 😬 IMO.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
who arguement was that? The only arguements I remeber hearing were that omega red has them as well though they may only be two he has superhuman stats him self as well as other very deadly attributes that make him vastly more formiable then Doc Ock.Oh and by the was omega red tenticles are made of a type of adamatium Doc Ocks are currently not made out of adamatium
Yeah you are one of em'
Originally posted by ankur29
can i ask whether you think all SM insinuations are credible,
do you agree sentry is above black bolt?
sentry stalemated galuctus?spiderman reflexes is 40x faster than normal human? (btw sorry about the bad quality)
what about SM insinuating wolverine has normal human strength?(i did not put teh lol there)
why is it acceptable to consider some insinuation credible and multiple others not, there seems to be double standards on these froums , only accepting some scenarios when it glorifies one's favourite charecter 🙁
hence SM saying daken is almost as fast as wolveirne can be wrong 😖
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That is what I have been saying for years. We can't use "xxx said xxx" for one character and not another. It's usually easier to ignore them than argue them, but we can't pick in choose. Wolverine saying Spiderman can break his neck, or DD saying he can't take on Spiderman don't count, but Spiderman saying xxx is as fast as xxx does. Either one way or another. But if we go by what someone else says Spiderman would probably still look superior. 😬 IMO.
Thank you I could not have put this better myself. The Logan fanboys are hypocritical. They take the best showings from mini me, but if some else uses Cap or Spidermans best it's automatically CIS. Don't waste your time.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
ecpt his raw speed was still easily enough to hit spiderman, spiderman also comments how he as fast as his father when he easily with out the uses of the pheramones dodges an attack.spiderman is not levels above daken in speed, he not even on a different level. There in the same speed class, spiderman slightly faster, but not by any real advantage that be notices.
Why're you saying spiderman is faster when it was pretty clear that daken was his equal in speed
Originally posted by Trackz
not at all, the pheromones is what made daken appear so fast to spiderman...the same thing with wolverine, and the same thing with deadpool
Trackz, dont respond to my post because I can tell that you're in denial. Daken didnt use the pheromones in the beginning of the fight when he plain and clear had opportunities of gutting spiderman.
The comic made it pretty clear when daken started using his pheromones and it wasnt during the begining when he BLITZED spiderman.
Originally posted by SamZED
Equel? Where did that come from? The only thing that was clear is that the moment Spider-man has managed to fight the pheromones effet Daken's speed was useless.
What are you talkling about? On the second page of the battle, the artist start putting green dots around spiderman head showing daken using his pheromones. In the beginning on the battle, there were no pheromones and spiderman got blitzed.
How about this, put up the battle, view it and then talk to me later about it.
I could easily say daken was superior since spiderman couldnt keep up with him before the use of the pheromones but i didnt.
Originally posted by carver9no it's obvious from the way spidemran describes his entrance that he was using his pheromones (same way wolverine describes it, he wasn't able to sense daken, he was just there) the bubbles disappear and reappear in certain panels, that doesn't mean when he doesn't have the bubbles dakens pheromones aren't effecting him.
Trackz, dont respond to my post because I can tell that you're in denial. Daken didnt use the pheromones in the beginning of the fight when he plain and clear had opportunities of gutting spiderman.The comic made it pretty clear when daken started using his pheromones and it wasnt during the begining when he BLITZED spiderman.
and even daken's initial "speedblitz" missed because spiderman was able to dodge...
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talkling about? On the second page of the battle, the artist start putting green dots around spiderman head showing daken using his pheromones. In the beginning on the battle, there were no pheromones and spiderman got blitzed.How about this, put up the battle, view it and then talk to me later about it.
I could easily say daken was superior since spiderman couldnt keep up with him before the use of the pheromones but i didnt.
notice how the green dots disappear a panel or two later, then reappear? do you think that means the pheromones suddenly stopped working?
Originally posted by Trackz
no it's obvious from the way spidemran describes his entrance that he was using his pheromones (same way wolverine describes it, he wasn't able to sense daken, he was just there) the bubbles disappear and reappear in certain panels, that doesn't mean when he doesn't have the bubbles dakens pheromones aren't effecting him.and even daken's initial "speedblitz" missed because spiderman was able to dodge...
😕 daken kicked him in the back instead of clawing him and how about this, prove that daken was using his pheromones in the beginning because from what I seen, they made it pretty clear when he used it, during the time we seen the dots.
