Toxin vs. Daken

Originally posted by Trackz
what on panel evidence do we have to back dakens speed? he's used pheromones to mess with his opponents senses in near all of his fights

Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

Tinkerer said Daken was just like his father biologically.

There should really be no question he's as fast as Wolverine. 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

Tinkerer said Daken was just like his father biologically.

There should really be no question he's as fast as Wolverine. 😕

He's going to bring up the pheromone deal; I promise you he is.

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

Tinkerer said Daken was just like his father biologically.

There should really be no question he's as fast as Wolverine. 😕

Forgot to say, lets not even bring up what cyber said about dakens speed when he compared it to wolvies or what deadpool said about dakens speed.

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

Tinkerer said Daken was just like his father biologically.

There should really be no question he's as fast as Wolverine. 😕

Plus when Spiderman fired at him daken admitted he was messing with his senses via the pheromones, when spiderman relied on his spidersense he webbed up daken with little difficulty. The pheromones allow daken to play the disappearing trick on his opponents.

Originally posted by Trackz
he believes he's better than wolverine in every way, he hates his father. Even after he said his father was slow didn't he get stabbed by wolverine?

Plus when Spiderman fired at him daken admitted he was messing with his senses via the pheromones, when spiderman relied on his spidersense he webbed up daken with little difficulty. The pheromones allow daken to play the disappearing trick on his opponents.

OMG, he didnt use his pheromones when spidey tried to web him, now show proof that he did. The only reason spiderman HIT daken was due to daken toying around and underestimating spiderman spider sense.

DAKEN DID NOT USE HIS PHEROMONES DURING THE BEGINNING OF THE FIGHT, IF HE DID, A LOT OF US WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SHOW PROOF INSTEAD OF MAKING UP SH**.

Originally posted by Trackz
he believes he's better than wolverine in every way, he hates his father. Even after he said his father was slow didn't he get stabbed by wolverine?

Plus when Spiderman fired at him daken admitted he was messing with his senses via the pheromones, when spiderman relied on his spidersense he webbed up daken with little difficulty. The pheromones allow daken to play the disappearing trick on his opponents.

😕

Didnt wolverine comment on how fast daken was on numerous of occasions? What are you talking about?

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman tried to use impact webbing on Daken immediately after vacating the elevator and Daken wasn't even there anymore.

Daken's commented 2 or three times on Wolverine being slow while beating him to the punch.

Tinkerer said Daken was just like his father biologically.

There should really be no question he's as fast as Wolverine. 😕

Originally posted by Trackz
he believes he's better than wolverine in every way, he hates his father. Even after he said his father was slow didn't he get stabbed by wolverine?

Originally posted by Trackz
Plus when Spiderman fired at him daken admitted he was messing with his senses via the pheromones, when spiderman relied on his spidersense he webbed up daken with little difficulty. The pheromones allow daken to play the disappearing trick on his opponents.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well if Daken thinks Wolverine is slow, and he said that he isn't faster than Deadpool, then Wolverine is slow compared to Deadpool. 😱

Wolverine is probably the slowest street level character, I wonder if he has pheromones.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's entirely possible.

Wow, this thread has gone way off topic. All this talk about Daken's pheromones, yet some of you seem to ignore that ability and still claim that it's all speed. Some of you are even suggesting that Wolverine is actually as fast, if not faster, than Spider-Man, and that is just silly.

Logan is clearly in the same speed class as spiderman. The differences between the two is that spiderman has a seeable edge in agility.

what they were saying is that Daken was shown to easily dodge and hit spiderman prior to using his pheramones

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan is clearly in the same speed class as spiderman. The differences between the two is that spiderman has a seeable edge in agility.

what they were saying is that Daken was shown to easily dodge and hit spiderman prior to using his pheramones

snicker right dustywanky Wolverine fanboys are sick as zhit!!!

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Wow, this thread has gone way off topic. All this talk about Daken's pheromones, yet some of you seem to ignore that ability and still claim that it's all speed. Some of you are even suggesting that Wolverine is actually as fast, if not faster, than Spider-Man, and that is just silly.

They are in denial. I don't understand why they don't get warnings. They are like trolls.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

what they were saying is that Daken was shown to easily dodge and hit spiderman prior to using his pheramones

Um...no. Spiderman dodged Daken, who flipped over Spidey and kicked him in the back. The next time Daken tagged Spidey was after the pheromones had kicked in.
So why are you all assuming Daken is as fast or faster than Spiderman? Slower characters than Daken have hit Spiderman, a normal person could probably do it if they got the drop on Parker like Daken did. There's no evidence in their single encounter to suggest Daken can keep up with Spiderman without using his pheromones.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
snicker right dustywanky Wolverine fanboys are sick as zhit!!!

They are in denial. I don't understand why they don't get warnings. They are like trolls.

Yea me thinking wolverine who shown in every single encounter with spiderman to have similar speed, who can match any of spiderman's speed feats with one of his and who had spiderman question if wolverine was faster, but yea I am clearly the one in denial 🙄

yea and I also go around mockign people and calling them fanboys yea im the troll here 🙄

daken's murasame blades cut his wrists causing him to bleed to death.

it cant it sheathed in adamatium

Wolverine isnt as fast as Spidey as far as I can tell. However that isnt the point here. Toxin is a overrated marvel flavor of the month character. He has NONE of the interesting traits of either Venom or Carnage. I had the same opinion of Daken at first but hes won me over. Anyway, in a fight between this two I'd think Daken could decapitate Toxin., who isnt as experienced as Venom or Carnage.

Originally posted by jinzin
While he was grabiing the Muramasa, he still beat Wolverine to it. 😬

It had nothing to do with pheramones... He shot webbing and daken wasn't there... It's not that Spiderman just didn't see him there... the webbing completely missed it's target.

it missed it's target because spiderman shot at where he thought daken was, daken mentions at that point I believe screwing with spidermans senses, that includes sight. Shooting web and having daken vanish is no different than when any of them threw a punch and daken wasn't there.