Originally posted by Philosophía
That is one of the worst logics I've ever seen.
😂
my . . . logicses have been known to be the worst in the past.
true or false--when flash amped his speed enough (combined his speed with the SF formula) he could fight zoom on equal footing?
and kris--where has he gone back in time to handle someone like you say he could go back in time and take out ss?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So, your saying Zoom beats Thanos or Tyrant correct?
I guess your also saying he would beat Galactus as well?What are the examples of time manipulation not working on Odin yet working again Thanos?
When I wrote "Do something similar" what did you read?
You have no sense of hierarchy or scale of power, do you?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
When I wrote "Do something similar" what did you read?You have no sense of hierarchy or scale of power, do you?
Actually when I first quoted you and read your post BEFORE Edit you said Thanos and Tyrant had no defense to that attack correct? So, lets not act like you didn't and thus that explains my response. Once I saw YOUR edit then I edited my post.
I very well understand the power scale but i was thinking you didn't. At first you didn't and said Thanos and Tyrant would lose but then corrected yourself and said they wouldn't. So, really it was you who was confused on said scale.
So, SS couldn't attack through time then is that your claim and thus he losses?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
blah blahSo, SS couldn't attack through time then is that your claim and thus he losses?
Yes. He has restrictiosn on his power cosmic, just like Thor now has on Mjolnir.
Odin can attack through time and has done so before, he can create a dimension not affected by said time/space rules. It would be a walk in the park.
Thanos has time-technology, etc.
Whether Tyrant has any time-defense is purely speculation.
Originally posted by leonidas
and if ss starts the fight in the air? ss can also sense the future (can't recall the issue but i'm sure it was in the romita run--goob probably knows it). his cosmic awareness grants him a form of prescience. he should be able to use that power to sense/know an attack is coming and defend against it.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6102/fantfour26107hs3.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/SilverSurferv3138p06.jpg
Originally posted by darthgoober
I can't think of the exact instance you're thinking of, but yeah Surfer can see through time...http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2984/silversurferv3138p06wx2.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/SilverSurferv3138p06.jpg
- Error
- I can only sustain such a vision for a very short time
Originally posted by darthgoober
I can't think of the exact instance you're thinking of, but yeah Surfer can see through time...http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6102/fantfour26107hs3.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/SilverSurferv3138p06.jpg
Originally posted by darthgoober
-Fixed the first one.-How long do you think it will take when we compare Zoom's durability to Surfer's offensive output?
- ****ing long, considering he's still not fast enough to actually strike Zoom and has no defense against Zoom moving BACK in time. These are not scans of him actually ACTING in time.
Originally posted by leonidas
😂my . . . logicses have been known to be the worst in the past.
true or false--when flash amped his speed enough (combined his speed with the SF formula) he could fight zoom on equal footing?
and kris--where has he gone back in time to handle someone like you say he could go back in time and take out ss?
Seriously, you're arguing that Surfer is fast enough to handle what Wally, even while amped so much he could reach lightspeed instantly was seeing as a blur. Wally even in his normal mode is so far above Surfer when it comes to perception/movement/reaction time it's sad.
And very few people really seem to grasp what Wally did in order to fight Zoom on even ground. He was, as stated, standing still in time, locked between the ticks of a second in a place where, as Zoom put it, they are 'immortal'. This goes in line with Jay's explination of Zoom's power that state that he can move as fast as he wants, and even stop in time, aswell as Zoom stating that he controls how fast he moves in the normal Universe. When Zoom said that he is 'beyond speed'.. he wasn't kidding. Essentially, Zoom will always be faster than his opponent, unless his opponent is fast enough to stand still in time (practically the ultimate level of speed) like Wally was.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- ****ing long, considering he's still not fast enough to actually strike Zoom and has no defense against Zoom moving BACK in time. These are not scans of him actually ACTING in time.
And Surfer can travel back in time too. If Zoom goes back and Surfer follows, it just means that he'll be facing two Surfer's(one from the start of the match an one from a couple of seconds into the match).
Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer's top speed feats have him moving thousands and million times lightspeed, what feats does Zoom have that suggest Surfer wouldn't be able to one shot him with a bull rush if/when Surfer precieves him?And Surfer can travel back in time too. If Zoom goes back and Surfer follows, it just means that he'll be facing two Surfer's(one from the start of the match an one from a couple of seconds into the match).
I'm sorry, do you understand how Zoom's powers work?
Surfer can't time travel anymore. I was certain these powers were locked away?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'm sorry, do you understand how Zoom's powers work?Surfer can't time travel anymore. I was certain these powers were locked away?
who locked the surfers time traveling abilities? i last saw him use it with alicia masters to show her the time stream and all converging moments in time reality.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Seriously? I thought Galactus had those powers locked nice and shut?Energy blast through time then.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And others are so desperate that they want to pretend that "on the board" feats don't matter even though Surfer starts the match on his board...
Because, obviously, Surfer's on-board flight speed is a very good argument to make when discussing Surfer being able to handle Zoom's speed ?
Jesus.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Because, obviously, Surfer's on-board flight speed is a very good argument to make when discussing Surfer being able to handle Zoom's speed ?Jesus.
