Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Well in a strictly screen-time sense, Palpatine never stated that he was Plagueis' apprentice, or that he possessed the... "knowledge" to save Padme, only the power to "discover the secret".
He also lied about having the power to save Padme from death. And about Plagueis teaching his apprentice everything he knew.
As I said earlier Sidious would have won the lightning part. As we know, Gl claims that Sidious pretended to "lose his power" as such he could have kept the lightning pouring out.
Now in the novel RotS we see the following, "This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade." and just before SIdious let up, "Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone. "Anakin, he's too strong for me-"". Clearly had Sidious kept up the lightning Mace would be overwhelmed. Thus by putting two and two togther Sidious could have defeated Windu.
however, that dialogue from ROTS novel is inadmissable. No cut scene where it could have happened.
And the "ozone choking" comment only describes what is going on at THAT DISTANCE. One step back, and the force pushing on Mace decreases "EXPONENTIALLY." Let me give an example.
I will explain because this has constantly been dismissed as "one step doesn't make that much of a difference." Obviously, my term "exponentially" is not being understood. I'll try not to get too technical. I am explaining directly from this page too, so if my meaning isn't clear, this should help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field
Basically, the section on Coulumbs law, and the equation directly above that section.
ok: Sidious's lightning gives off an electric field, Labeled E. (lightning itself is not a physical thing, so the only thing pushing back Mace's saber is an electrical field generated force.
To find what that field is, we use the formula E=Q/4(Pi)(epsilon0)r^2
It is also multiplied by r(hat) to get the unit vector (which is only useful to show that it doesn't matter if sidious is sitting or standing, the force on Mace will be the same.
Q is the particle creating the electric field (Sidious) Epsilon0 is a boring constant number, but it is TINY. 8.85418782 × 10-12 m-3 kg-1 s4 A2
(which in this case means that E is a HUGE number. (divide by something less than one, and all that...) E is inversely proportional in size therefore to r (distance from sidious)
It boils down to this: at distance 1 (say one step), if Q's E== 1000, then at 2 steps, its 250, at 3 steps its 111, at 4, its 63, etc. (rough numbers of course.) EXPONENTIALLY.
E/=F, but it is DIRECTLY proportional to F meaning i don't have to worry about proving F. Speaking in generalities, they will increase and decrease by the same magnitude.
So by taking one step back, Sidious will have to use 4 times the power in order to reach that point of overpowering Mace. Can he multiply his power by 4? I would say that since his current power aged the crap out of him, 4 times that power would kill him. It would also wear him out much faster, and Mace would be using NO MORE energy than he was before. Two steps back, and sidious has to use 9 times the strength to keep the pressure on Mace.
Mace was going to win. Sidious faked being able to continue, that is all. Continuing was not going to guarantee his victory.
for perhaps a moment, throwing him off balance, but the second he starts moving back, the pressure is SIGNIFICANTLY reduced, and he is able to more than regain his footing. and this is the same mace that used the force to walk across that one tram-car that had grievous on it, more nimby than Grievous was able to with his Magnetic feet.
True Jedi, I asked you if it were that simple then why didn't Mace step back. Your answer was: Because Mace was trying to kill Sidious. So if taking steps back would require Sidious to use more power and making him tire that much more quicker, then why didn't Mace do that?
You are comparing real world lightning to fictional dark side lightning. Yoda was able to handle Sidious' lightning up close, but was unable to several feet away. Yoda even put his hand up to catch it, but was still slambed against the wall.